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[RCU005]

I can't understand why every AAA game needs to be open-world.

I can understand why Spider-Man is open-world, but a Wolverine game could work perfectly fine as a more linear game. And that looks atrocious (though I'm sure it will look much better when they're ready to launch it).

This totally looks like they said: "We can just apply the same formula from Spider-Man to Wolverine!"

When they announced the game, it seemed like it would've been something like God of War (as many have said in here). Something more grounded and brutal. Whether open world or linear, the movement and combat would've been more like controlling Kratos.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

I just got cancer stepping into this thread. The amount of stupidity is too high.

I feel you man......

This looks like final footage, I very much don't the final product will look (or sound) any different.

 

[GigaBowser]

he runs constirpated buuuuut its early build will be better

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Looks like Insomniac secretly want to make a Hunchback of Notre Dame game but are being forced to make Wolverine

 

[nial]

I would never bet on anything being in stone, as far as release schedules. I think Venom is a safe bet for 2025, but that also seems to be a Miles Morales kind of scope. So, a bit easier to confidently pin that one down. Especially since it's certainly going to reuse a significant amount of assets and animations. The fact that it's only on a two-year development timeline is a potential issue. That is either going to be remembered as an impressive schedule, a disaster, or too optimistic at the time and it gets delayed. But, I'm gonna say this actually fits well with their goals of smaller budgets and faster timelines.

Wolverine is a bit trickier to say for sure. The slides cut off at Q4 2022, and Wolverine was in development before that. But we can't say for certain based on that slide how far back it started. It's being given a much larger timeline and resource allocation than Venom. But my concern stems from Wolverine requiring many new assets, maps, animations, and just trying to figure out the gameplay. Which will be considerably different from Spider-Man.

I don't believe this supposed leak is real. It looks like a modded fake. The actual, legit leak we saw had the game playing nothing like Spider-Man. Much closer to God of War. Meaning they have very little previous work to piggyback on for an easier development. I'm pretty sure that Wolverine is basically a "from scratch" development. Which gives me pause looking at that slide and being confident in a 2026 release.

For Spider-Man 3, I see both Insomniac and Sony doing everything in their power to have it hit 2028. Why? PlayStation 6. That is the year we've been hearing that Sony wants to release it. This would be a tremendous move by Sony to drum up excitement for the launch of the next console. With that in mind, I think that if SM3 looks to be in danger of not hitting the launch, they'll go all hands on deck to make the deadline. Which means delaying anything supposedly coming later. If Wolverine gets delayed, that would slow down the reallocation of resources to SM3. To me, a delay of Wolverine would tell me everything coming after, except SM3, is also going to miss the original timeline.

But, all of this is merely guesswork based on slides that are already a year old. More factors than I tossed out would be in play. For all we know, things already changed.

I personally believe Sony is going to release the PS6 in November 2027, so it being a year 1 or 2 title does not sound bad, either way.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

lol....my hopes for future Insomniac games have diminished quite a bit, fortunately.

 

[nial]

If you want a clear example, posters like SlimeGooGoo and Fuz used to be seen as overly negative to the point where they were considered edgy and trolling. As a matter of fact that literally became Slime's whole 'character' for a while on this forum, where he used to be one of the first 10 posters into any thread possible to tell everyone how the thread's topic sucks and sometimes derail the entire thread with an out-there take to the point where I sometimes wondered if he had some sort of forum rule-immunity. I don't want to just say it was those two though.

Ah, I don't see Goo that much these days, he always caught up my attention when I used to lurk on this forum in late 2021 and early 2022.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

It's like watered down sunset overdrive traversal. Still definitely an early build.
The big question though, does this take place in Latinx america?

 

[mnkl13]

This game is making as much sense as a spider-man game without the web swinging. They should use a different formula for this character.

 

[Msamy]

For graphics i think m13 build looks really good considering that this build is 3 years before release date

 

[Shits_McGiggles]

The gameplay camera should be further back, and the combat looks too spongey, simple, and drawn out so far. Just doesn’t look like fun to play at the moment. It could always change, but I think it is clear the kind of experience Insomniac is going for with this game and it’s disappointing.

 

[Seyken]

What I had in my mind for this game was something like a Days Gone meets GTA meets Wolverine. Most of the traversal would be done using a motorcycle, but with you being able to infuse some tricks into it using Logan's abilities, like maybe sticking his claws into the ground in order to make a very tight curve, lunging at the enemies from the bike to start combat, so on and so forth.

From the initial trailer I just imagined Logan going around town on his bike messing bad guys up. Seeing him being this kind of Daredevil-like character feels weird and not grounded enough.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Fuck this

God bless Raven and their 15 yo no BS, no fat, no goddamn open world, fun af and the best Wolverine game ever made

 

[Dirk Benedict]

What if the reason why Wolverine moving like Mary Poppins is because the "gameplay" itself is still going through transformation and the floaty shit that many of us suspect is from Spiderman, is just placeholder animation? I don't fuckin' know. Just a thought.

 

[TGO]

I know it's unfinished but no amount of polish will make that look good

 

[Bulletbrain]

Graphics and animations will obviously improve but I'm curious of the overall direction the game is heading towards. Did not expect it to have Suicide Squad like traversal that really don't fit the character.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Unless the game gets a mass overhaul of gameplay mechanics and adjustments to open world jumping and climbing up walls, it'll basically be Spiderman reskin. The city is adjusted with different buildings and instead of zipping around on webs, you have to get to locations by running, climbing walls and doing giant jumps from rooftop to rooftop.

As for graphics, animations and polish, of course those will all be fixed up by launch.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Wonder Woman will likely be better.

 

[Moses85]

This will not end well…

 

[RJMacready73]

When the hell has Wolverine ever moved or traversed like that?? I know it's early WIP but man, it just looks like someone modded Spiderman with a terrible Wolverine suit and removed his web

 

[pasterpl]

Reminds me a bit of a poor copy of prototype (which was awesome game). Also looks like very early footage.

 

[Valedix]

Like how people are already basing the game off leaked footage, do you remember the leaked gta 6 footage? Moronic takes here.

 

[Fbh]

Like how people are already basing the game off leaked footage, do you remember the leaked gta 6 footage? Moronic takes here.

And then people wonder why devs aren't more transparent and don't show their games earlier

 

[Hero_Select]

oh my god please tell me that's not how you actually traverse the world

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Wonder Woman will likely be better.

On purpose.

 

[hussar16]

At least they centered the camera
.looks way better

 

[DR3AM]

People complain about $7 Starfield missions but Sony will charge $70 for a Wolverine suit in Spiderman.

 

[coffinbirth]

This is all the same crap from the initial leak, people. Still an ass old build.

This was all over the dark web a month after the dump, it just never made it's way up to the surface until now, I guess. Same with the Spidey 3 build. Have these guys found The Great Web or the Venom thing yet?

 

[ProtoByte]

I'm confused by the stupidity and hypocrisy in this thread.

The game is not open world. It's level/zone based. Wide linear. That was made explicit in the leaks.

Also, why are people complaining about an early prototype looking less like God of War '18 than before? I remember people complaining that it looked too much like GoW, and that they were tired of a close camera and GoW itself by Ragnarok.

 

[lachesis]

He moves like Crash the bandicoot? I am sure the final game will look amazing - but at this point I can laugh! Haha

 

[Sacred]

The game needs completely reworked, everyone is tired of the Spiderman combat and traversal. In a wolverine game, I would want up close visceral combat with dismemberment and environmental destruction. These leaks really do just look like SM DLC.

 

[kruis]

And then people wonder why devs aren't more transparent and don't show their games earlier

Gamers: Devs, show your games earlier! We know how games development works, the game won't look its best, but we're fine with that!

Devs show alpha footage.

Gamers: WTF is this shit? This looks like garbage, it looks your previous game but running worse! Fucking lazy devs!

 

[Shits_McGiggles]

The game needs completely reworked, everyone is tired of the Spiderman combat and traversal. In a wolverine game, I would want up close visceral combat with dismemberment and environmental destruction. These leaks really do just look like SM DLC.

I want this, but Wolverine

 

[Panajev2001a]

Any ideas how old the footage is?

It is likely from the original leak/data raid, but published now to get views.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Gamers: Devs, show your games earlier! We know how games development works, the game won't look its best, but we're fine with that!

Devs show alpha footage.

Gamers: WTF is this shit? This looks like garbage, it looks your previous game but running worse! Fucking lazy devs!

Yep, nailed the modern audiences to a T lol .

 

[crunchyBiscuits]

Holy crap. A game in-development looks like a game in-development. Lmao some of the comments on here

 

[peish]

I think this looks terrible and too similar to spideman.

I never envisioned wolverine to be someone mario hopping about or climbing buildings like a spider.

 

[sigmaZ]

Preorder cancelled.

 

[GymWolf]

Since they are the only First party devs actively making PS5 games, they are mostly using old assets to cut development time.

So using an already pre-existent brand where they don't have to come up with lore and characters and stealing the combat and stealth from the arkham games wasn't helpful enough to cut development times?

Neat.

 

[jonnyp]

What do you expect from really early dev footage. There is so much missing from this footage, yet people still comment about how poor it looks like it's meant to resemble anything like a finished product. Look at every single Insomniac game, you really think it's going to look like this come release.. lol

Of course it's going to look better than this, wouldn't take much though, but I have little hope of this being good or even looking particularly good after Spider-Man 2. Insomniac is mass-producing these games now and it shows.

 

[Bert Big Balls]

Assuming this is an early build but the jumping looks so goofy.

 

[Shits_McGiggles]

So I will give some credit in that Insomniac pulled the camera back compared to the horrible previous version. They definitely need to speed up the combat, add more combos, and make the enemies feel less spongey. Hopefully they don’t revert back to the clunky over the shoulder combat gameplay that they were trying before and hopefully they will pull the camera back more.

 

[{insert code here}]

Is Wolverine supposed to be a floaty jumper, or this athletic, in general?

Nope.

It literally looks like Spiderman Costume DLC.

 

[Snake29]

This looks like a very old prototype build based on Spiderman mechanics. Do people remember when Horizon Zero Dawn was in development, the first protype was based on Killzone mechanics to test enviroments, weapons handeling etc etc.

They always use (when posible) previous games mechanics to test a lot of things, because new mechanics for the specific games are never done so early.

 

[Ultra Donny]

The music is the most promising part.

 

[LazyParrot]

This is why studios and publishers are so hesitant to release early game footage. The truth is video games tend to look and run like absolute dogshit for like 95% of the development cycle.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Just make it like Hulk Ultimate Destruction and I am sold.

God I would do anything for a modern Hulk game like that.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

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Its a bit like Spiderman without the webs

 

[Barakov]

This why people live off the grid.

 

[sigmaZ]

That music better be in the final game.

That's some Avant-garde crap for real.