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Woman are giving up on woman *lol*
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Peggies
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I think it all boils down to the problem, that a certain type of asshole woman is looking for a certain type of asshole man. The asshole female looks for someone who is rich, even though he's old, ugly and/or a brute - whereas the asshole male looks for a young and/or slim woman, even though she's stupid or obviously materialistic.
These people are then really shocked when relationships don't work out that way and therefore claim it's because "women want that" and "men do that".
It's not the genitals that make people behave a certain way, it's their lack of manners and morals and some other basic values.
These people are then really shocked when relationships don't work out that way and therefore claim it's because "women want that" and "men do that".
It's not the genitals that make people behave a certain way, it's their lack of manners and morals and some other basic values.
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nush
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Actual gays are swimming in dick, your seeing "If you can't get a girlfriend, become the girlfriend". It's totally not gay bro...
p_xavier
Authorized Fister
It's more if your eyes are closed, a hole is a hole.
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Peggies
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Maiden Voyage
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Are you an alt of
BluRayHiDef
? I see a disappointing lack of Faceandlms videos.
BluRayHiDef
? I see a disappointing lack of Faceandlms videos.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
A good psychologist would never paint such broad strokes, for such a broad category as "men" and "women." There are 16 different personality types in Myers-Briggs for instance, and they are not unique to men or women.
A good psychologist would note there are some differences in men and women; child studies have shown that these occur at a young age. That's about it; from there you have a huge variety, and it's not merely "well obviously this doesn't apply to all".. it's "you can't actually stereotype such a broad group accurately."
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
This is so utterly disgusting. Perhaps these women want financial independence more than they want to pop out kids and then depend on a man?
Good lord dude lol And do you work in any sort of actual professional environment? Huge percentage of successful women are married with kids... because they get through college and get a job and with 2 incomes can afford to have children before their "eggs dry up."
But sure.. some maybe never have kids.. and sure.. if they'd just been a young teenager looking for a man to knock them up, that would be different! And.. better I guess? Jesus fucking christ lol
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Orutisu Furio
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The issue is modern western women, women in America, Canada, UK, Europe, etc -- are delusional about what they want in a man or what they think they deserve in a man, or they believe they are entitled to X type of man for X reasons. That's not how it works.
Modern women think that because they have an advanced education, degree, a profession, make an income, are self sufficient, etc will make them appealing to a man, but this isn't the case.
Generally, men do not care about a women's status with regards to career or finances, or education, and could care less what she does for a living. This isn't seen as important to men, assuming the man himself is self sufficient and capable of taking care of himself and those around him.
All men care about are a few basic things:
- How feminine is she (is she sexually "fit" - I.E. not too overweight or obese, nice hips, waist, breasts, pretty face, soft features, overall pleasant appearance)
- How "motherly" she is (men look at this subconsciously -- looking for nurturing qualities, soft caring traits, signs she can raise children in the future)
- How she treats them and other people around her (is she a kind hearted person, how does she treat others, does she have loyal qualities which men value the most)
That's about it, honestly. Everything else is irrelevant, or a plus. There is no man that says "My god, she's an executive, that's so hot" or "Wow, she's a nautical engineer, wow what a babe!" -- that's not how men think.
Women think that way however. A man's status in society is often more attractive to a woman than his physical appearance. If the man has a strong dominant personality with a good career or social status, that is often enough for a woman to be attracted to him. If he's very handsome, that's a plus.
A man who is a doctor or a lawyer can walk into a restaurant and not have an issue falling for a hostess or a waitress, assuming she meets the above basic requirements, or a man that is an engineer would have no issue falling for a girl with no college degree or career experience, assuming she also meets those basic requirements.
Modern women think that because they have an advanced education, degree, a profession, make an income, are self sufficient, etc will make them appealing to a man, but this isn't the case.
Generally, men do not care about a women's status with regards to career or finances, or education, and could care less what she does for a living. This isn't seen as important to men, assuming the man himself is self sufficient and capable of taking care of himself and those around him.
All men care about are a few basic things:
- How feminine is she (is she sexually "fit" - I.E. not too overweight or obese, nice hips, waist, breasts, pretty face, soft features, overall pleasant appearance)
- How "motherly" she is (men look at this subconsciously -- looking for nurturing qualities, soft caring traits, signs she can raise children in the future)
- How she treats them and other people around her (is she a kind hearted person, how does she treat others, does she have loyal qualities which men value the most)
That's about it, honestly. Everything else is irrelevant, or a plus. There is no man that says "My god, she's an executive, that's so hot" or "Wow, she's a nautical engineer, wow what a babe!" -- that's not how men think.
Women think that way however. A man's status in society is often more attractive to a woman than his physical appearance. If the man has a strong dominant personality with a good career or social status, that is often enough for a woman to be attracted to him. If he's very handsome, that's a plus.
A man who is a doctor or a lawyer can walk into a restaurant and not have an issue falling for a hostess or a waitress, assuming she meets the above basic requirements, or a man that is an engineer would have no issue falling for a girl with no college degree or career experience, assuming she also meets those basic requirements.
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ArtemisClydeFrog
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FreedomOfSpeech
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ArtemisClydeFrog
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Outing and shaming? People are literally outing and shaming nearly half the world's population because they can't get any puss.
Dude I quoted sounds like a male version of Cosmos magazine.
strange headache
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This is
the topic.
All of these overly reductive generalizations are nothing but the desperate thoughts of angry people who made some bad experiences or no experiences at all. If you're frustrated that you can't get a girl, don't play the victim card and blame it on them. Work on yourself and be proactive instead of wallowing in self-pity while giving these puerile videos clicks.
GeorgPrime
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This is
the topic.
All of these overly reductive generalizations are nothing but the desperate thoughts of angry people who made some bad experiences or no experiences at all. If you're frustrated that you can't get a girl, don't play the victim card and blame it on them. Work on yourself and be proactive instead of wallowing in self-pity while giving these puerile videos clicks.
I dont know who you are talking to but i know how to get a one night stand if i ever need one but iam not allowed to because iam married to a beautiful wife.
The video is more about "Women that try to match single women who are desperate for a men but are never getting one because they are way too demanding and that female matchmaker quit matching women at all". Maybe you just didnt understand it.
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strange headache
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Am I supposed to find that impressive? You're trying way too hard.
Maybe lay off the silly manosphere vids and get a real wife, your waifu pillow doesn't count.
There's not much to understand, you literally just repeated the thumbnail title, but way longer and with worse grammar.
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GeorgPrime
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Nice try kiddo.
But the more intelligent man in this thread will just ignore you now. Have a nice day.
Elektro Demon
Banned
Prostitutes are the way to go.
strange headache
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The more intelligent man wouldn't brag about hypothetical one-night stands on a video-game forum, especially if he were married.
You wonder why some women have standards?
GeorgPrime
Banned
Being a white knight on the Internet is not going to get you a girlfriend either. You attacked me first because you got butthurt about something.
Just imagine that your dating life is as good as your troll life in the internet.....
strange headache
Banned
Contrary to you, I don't need to brag to random forum strangers about my imaginary relationship. How many happily married studs, that could get one-night stands at the snip of their finger, feel the need to watch MGTOW cry-videos about the high standards that women apply to their partner search? None of this makes any sense.
Also nobody was attacking you personally, I was merely pointing out the stupidity in that video you posted. If you can't even deal with that, then it's no wonder you must find women's standards hard to fulfill.
GeorgPrime
Banned
Before i go to bed now thanks for your emotional outrage on Neogaf.
Just make sure people dont realize how to trigger you to begin with, that was the only reason i put the "One Night Stand" part into my answer.
How the bait worked... you can see for yourself.
Good night
Orutisu Furio
Member
It's the truth. Nobody wants to read or hear it, but it's just biology and evolution. Men and women look at different traits and characteristics for attractiveness.
A young woman in her early 20s that meets the below characteristics (bolded) is more attractive to an older man in his 30s/40s than a woman in her 30s or 40s of the same age and status. A man in his late 20s, or 30s, or 40s, maybe even 50s, is more attractive to a younger women than men her own age. There is a reason why older men love younger women and younger women swoon over established older men.
Women admire social status, dominance, aggressiveness, and intelligence. Looks are a plus.
Men admire youthful feminine beauty, nurturing and soft personality, and loyalty, regardless of social status.
None of this is controversial or hard to understand.
strange headache
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Before i go to bed now thanks for your emotional outrage on Neogaf.
Just make sure people dont realize how to trigger you to begin with, that was the only reason i put the "One Night Stand" part into my answer.
How the bait worked... you can see for yourself.
Good night
Sure man, big brain moves, alright.
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Hari Seldon
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I think you nailed the traits that men look for, but I disagree that men want no social status. I wouldn't say it is really social status that is attractive, more like ambition. If a girl has her shit together and has a plan for life that is attractive to me. Maybe it is just a personal thing, but there is no amount of hotness that would make me willingly take on 6 figures of student loan debt for a useless degree lmfao. I didn't make that mistake and wouldn't want a partner who made that mistake. I would say though that a girl without a college degree with actual ambition, say to own their own restaraunt or something is fine. That is attractive. Ambition is attractive for both sexes always.
nush
Gold Member
He is actually married though. A lot of these incel MGTOW videos are presented as faux science and psychology, it's not too much of a stretch that OP using his second language might not be aware of that underlying agenda.
Orutisu Furio
Member
I am saying that the social status isn’t a focus. If a girl is attractive, kind and nurturing, and loyal, most men could care less if she’s college educated or not or whether she’s ambitious. Obviously men don’t want to be stuck with a bimbo, or a lazy piece of crap, but whether or not she’s hard working for a career or not isn’t a concern for majority of men who have their stuff together.
nush
Gold Member
I would not get into a relationship with any woman that wasn't working, even then she's have to be above entry level work. Men who have their stuff together, have their stuff together by considering things like this. Unemployed woman, would bang, wouldn't let her move in.
Fugitive Sex
Member
Oh no, dear. As a homosexual, I have a unique insight into their particular vulgarities and idiosyncrasies. You couldn't pay me to be friends with them anymore.
JimmyRustler
Member
Sounds more like a psychologist that doesn't want to offend anyone. I suggest you to read some of the shunned pick up artist books, actually apply this in real life and then come back here and tell me you can't paint broad strokes on women's psychology as whole.
And before you get a wrong picture of me. I didn't seek this shit out, I just happened to meet a guy that was into this and also coaching other guys buy chance and then looked into this topic out of curiosity. I was BAFFLED.
Ughh... This again.This is
the topic.
All of these overly reductive generalizations are nothing but the desperate thoughts of angry people who made some bad experiences or no experiences at all. If you're frustrated that you can't get a girl, don't play the victim card and blame it on them. Work on yourself and be proactive instead of wallowing in self-pity while giving these puerile videos clicks.
It's like me saying everyone who writes stuff like you now is being his wife's bitch.
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Peggies
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Soodanim
Gold Member
From my passing understanding of PUA, it plays on certain psychological hooks like presenting a challenge/tease that becomes more like a game/hunt instead of saying “Please will you go out with me”, and on a someone that often gets the latter. It makes the situation new and interesting. I would guess it only works on a certain type of person, though, which would somewhat invalidate the defence of broad strokes. The truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle.
I would imagine PUA methods rarely translate into long term relationships, because the entire point of it is to remove all substance and present a falsehood. When you strip that away, if someone isn’t intellectually challenged by the relationship and/or any other element people may want from their partner then I’d imagine it falls apart. That’s probably why PUA is disliked, because it breaks the traditional meet>date>sex>relationship and focuses on the initial parts in an extreme way that ends up being disrespectful and potentially hurtful.
To reiterate, this is a passing understanding from watching a couple videos when I first heard about it and it coming up on forums over the years. Feel free to correct anything I’m wrong about.
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Cockles & Whelks
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After I broke up with the missus her friend gave her the "Why Men Love Bitches" book.
It's nuts. No wonder they are so fucked up.
It's nuts. No wonder they are so fucked up.
GeorgPrime
Banned
Off topic: is there any way the title could be edited (WomEn) ? It hurts my eyes and inner ears and what if children read this
Unless there's a pun I don't get?
Was just a typo xD
Cockles & Whelks
Feminism is mostly at fault for women to go crazy. Like the sister of a good friend of mine... she really is shocked right now how feminism made her believe that her life is over as soon as she gets a baby. Its quite the opposite for her now.
Feminism is in parts really fucking toxic for women.
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JimmyRustler
Member
Your passing understanding is not really correct. The scene is very broad. Whereas there is a lot of stuff out there teaching you how to get a quick lay, the books I read actually discouraged hook up culture at the very beginning and were focuing among other things mainly on main topics of attraction. There is even a lot of advice on what you need to do to keep a relationship going.
Soodanim
Gold Member
I didn’t know anything like that existed. Seems like it’s not dissimilar to any other dating/understanding the opposite sex/relationship book at that point, which is to say as valid as anything else.
BlueAlpaca
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JimmyRustler
Member
I don't actually know because I haven't read many of these books. Like I said, I was just curious, read this stuff and applied it when dealing with women. My experiance was interesting to say at least and makes me look at anyone who says that certain broad generalizations for groups of people are not possible in disbelieve.
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Soodanim
Gold Member
That's fair. It would be just as foolish to ignore that we're still the same species with similar functioning as it would be to ignore the limits/flaws of generalisation.
West Texas CEO
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
You lucky dog.
As a super-straight male, I have no choice but to deal with their bs, and it's all because of that sweet and tangy p-sleeve.
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Humdinger
Gold Member
Interesting to see the mix of red pilled guys and those who trot out the predictable "incel" slurs. GAF, what a mix. Diversity is our strength!
Dating apps have really shifted things. I feel sorry for the younger guys. Heck, I feel sorry for the younger girls, too. It's kind of a mess all around.
Dating apps have really shifted things. I feel sorry for the younger guys. Heck, I feel sorry for the younger girls, too. It's kind of a mess all around.
nush
Gold Member
It's truly a tragedy that the only way you can meet women is through apps. Back in my day you could walk up to a woman and say "Hi" then see if there was any interest. Tears in the rain.
GeorgPrime
Banned
I never used Tinder or dating apps before i used it only once and my whole life changed lol
Being a dancer makes it quite easy to meet women at clubs. It feels like a gray memory now with Corona and all clubs closed since 1-2 years lol
Damn. Best time of my life.
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SebastianShaw
Member
Ha, i gave up on women long ago!
Or maybe its the other way
Or maybe its the other way
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Raven117
Member
Yeah, I feel sorry for them too. Being a bit older with no social media at all in my formative years and through college, it all felt much more organic.
at a party, out with friends, doing social stuff, you just walked on over and said hello. Maybe there was a spark, maybe not. Felt awesome to just be out in the wild and having the social skill to just handle it
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Honestly, would you give a shit if he was a woman complaining about men?
I am amazed at how angry some guys complaining about women anger other men, as if women haven't made an industry doing the same shit.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Yeah, things have changed a lot. There is an odd dynamic that's happening with dating apps. This isn't something I know about from personal experience; I've been out of the dating pool for 13 years; but it's something I've heard over and over.
Back in our day, women would have a relatively small pool of guys to choose from -- the local high school guys, the local college guys, or rather, the subset of those guys who'd be willing to approach them. Now, though, dating apps have opened the field for any man within hundreds of miles to hit on her, and with minimal risk. Attractive women get thousands of messages a day. Plain-looking, average women get hundreds. Even ugly women get tons of messages from guys.
What happens is that turns women's natural pickiness about mating partners (their selectivity) higher, because it's a seller's market -- there are customers for her p-sleeve lined up around the block (the world is full of simps). She's able to bed really attractive guys, because guys aren't particularly selective with who they sleep with.
The woman then gets inflated expectations for what she can get. Because she's gotten highly attractive men to bang her in the past, that's all she'll settle for now. After all, she's got hundreds of guys hitting on her every day. She can be as choosey as she likes.
What this leads to is a situation where 80% of the women go after the top 20% of guys. The other 80% of men are left taking sloppy seconds (more like sloppy twentieths or thirtieists nowadays) or else walking away.
Another factor is that modern dating apps exclusively focus on looks. Personality, intelligence, game, etc. play very little role, at least initially. It's all about physical attractiveness.
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ArtemisClydeFrog
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I would, sweeping generalizations and "the problem is this....." are annoying no matter who is doing it. Even if I do the same shit sometimes.
Reality Czar
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Modern women have been told the lie that "There is something more to life than having a family". This is the lie at the heart of feminism. It was there from the start, Betty Frieden's The Feminine Mystique. The fantasy that men have this amazing thing that women were denied is what initially sold women on leaving their families. If only you could leave your responsibilities behind and do whatever you want (work and consume until you die). This was made reality by technology with The Pill. Now women could avoid the consequence of having sex. No need to pair up anymore, no need for shotgun weddings, or hastily arranged marriages. This is the heart of feminism, avoiding consequences. This is why abortion is the ultimate right for feminists. Even in the event that pills and condoms have failed (or were never tried out of laziness) and the woman is pregnant, she can still choose to terminate the life, erasing the natural consequences of her actions. This is what feminism is all about, avoiding consquences.
Recently I saw Amy Poehler on a talk show, someone asked her "what feminism is to her" and she said "Freedom to be yourself". It is not longer even tied to the rights of biological women, that battle was won decades ago. It is now a headless, directionless movement, with no goal, just "freedom to do whatever I want".
This entirely explains every woman I have had a relationship with, plus the ones my friends have dated. They don't want a family or to have children, that is square, they want to pretend they are in their 20s for the rest of their lives, drinking and screwing people randomly until dead. Tons of 20 somethings are skipping their 30s entirely and hitting a mid life crisis where they pretend to be college age again. It is a dead end way of living, this fake "freedom". Wow they are doing whatever they want, which is sitting around watching Netflix all day. Totally better than raising a family.
The hatred towards the patriarchy and nuclear family has decimated entire generations of men and women who have been turned against themselves and one another. Sad.
Recently I saw Amy Poehler on a talk show, someone asked her "what feminism is to her" and she said "Freedom to be yourself". It is not longer even tied to the rights of biological women, that battle was won decades ago. It is now a headless, directionless movement, with no goal, just "freedom to do whatever I want".
This entirely explains every woman I have had a relationship with, plus the ones my friends have dated. They don't want a family or to have children, that is square, they want to pretend they are in their 20s for the rest of their lives, drinking and screwing people randomly until dead. Tons of 20 somethings are skipping their 30s entirely and hitting a mid life crisis where they pretend to be college age again. It is a dead end way of living, this fake "freedom". Wow they are doing whatever they want, which is sitting around watching Netflix all day. Totally better than raising a family.
The hatred towards the patriarchy and nuclear family has decimated entire generations of men and women who have been turned against themselves and one another. Sad.
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