• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Woman Is Gang-Raped on Order of Village Council in India

Status
Not open for further replies.

Mumei

Member
What are these based on? Would like to see the underlying data

It's something of a holistic analysis of the issue, which I think is the only real way to do comparison across countries or get a real sense of the problem. This is their criteria from the Codebook:

ii. Violence (See Section E.ii for Domestic Violence and Female Infanticide)

a. Laws on Rape and Sexual Assault (Also see EWCMS and GEW for rape in and by the military and other armed groups)

LRW PRACTICE 1: Are laws against rape and sexual assault enforced? [Include conviction and incarceration rates.] Are reasons given for the prevalence of rape and sexual assault in this country?

LRW PRACTICE 2: Are there taboos against reporting rape or sexual assault? [Include elements that work to fight against those taboos, such as women’s shelters, hotlines, etc.]

LRW PRACTICE 3: Can a woman be killed (i.e., honor killings) or otherwise punished if she is raped or sexually assaulted– even if she is obviously innocent? Can a woman be forced by her society to marry her rapist for the sake of honor, whether or not that practice is legal? (See LRW LAW 4)

LRW LAW 1: Are there laws against rape and sexual assault? Is there a law against statutory rape, and what is the age of consent cut-off for statutory rape?

LRW LAW 2: What are the punishments and how is fault decided?

LRW LAW 3: Who can be a legal witness [e.g., must the witness be a male?] and does the woman’s testimony count? Consider other factors, such as whether the court looks at the woman’s sexual history or dress, etc.

LRW LAW 4: Are there laws in the country absolving a rape perpetrator if they marry or agree to marry their victim?

LRW DATA 1: How prevalent is rape and sexual assault? [Look for incidence, qualitative, or quantitative information.]

...

Purpose: The intent of the scale is to capture the prevalence of rape within the cultural context of likelihood of rape being reported and what is legally considered rape. This scaling process will help standardize the rape data in a consistent way so that international comparative analysis can be more reliably performed.

Subscores: The final number is a composite of three subscores. The first is the official reported statistic of rapes per 100,000 population per year. The second score is based on the strength of the taboos that discourage rape being officially reporting within a particular country. The final score is based on the inclusivity of the rape laws. Use the table (see below) to combine the three subscores. Subscore values are as follows:

SUBSCORE 1 (LRW SCALE 4): Official Reported Rape Prevalence(out of 100,000 total population). Since these are but reported figures, the user should understand that they may not be a reliable indicator of the prevalence of rape within a society. Users are advised to use one of the composite scales instead (LRW SCALE 7 or 8).
0 – 0/100,000
1 – 1-10/100,000
2 – 11-30/100,000
3 – 31-60/100,000
4 – >60/100,000

SUBSCORE 2 (LRW SCALE 5): Strength of Taboos Against Reporting Rape
0 – Virtually no barriers to reporting rapes
1 – Some cultural barriers to reporting rapes
2 – Cultural barriers regularly keep women from reporting rape
3 – Cultural barriers to reporting rape are intense, but a woman is not under risk of possible physical duress if she does report the rape
4 – Cultural norms on reporting are severe (including physical punishment, exile from family, or death) and the woman may face this punishment even if innocent.

SUBSCORE 3 (LRW SCALE 6): Inclusivity of Laws Concerning Rape
0 – The law considers date rape andother forms of sex without consent with known or unknown individuals (including spousal rape), drugs etc as still constituting rape.
1 – Legal definitions do not specifically name date rape, spousal rape, or other forms of non-consensual sex as rape.

There's more at the link, but that's the gist of it. If you go by official reporting numbers, this is what you get:

Prevalence%20of%20Rape_2011tif_wmlogo3.png

But low reporting numbers can either come from there actually being low numbers, or it could be because if you report you get killed by your family or forced to marry your rapist or get raped by order of your village council, or in less extreme cases are simply shamed / blamed for it. Or low reporting numbers might simply come from an expectation that not much will be done about it.
 

boiled goose

good with gravy
That's why I said I was shocked with Japan. It's clearly not ALL education and poverty.

Obviously education determines a country's culture to an extent. That said there are cultural norms that exist regardless of education, or change to slowly despite education, such as women's rights and advancement in Japan.
 

tino

Banned
Jesus dancing on a pole, these Indian thread titles are so bad nowadays I am afraid to click on them on my work computer.

(Replying on my personal laptop)
 
“In the excitement, some wrong things happened,” Mr. Soren said.

Well I'd fucking say. Goodness sakes, that poor woman. That poor couple, as well. Ugh I'm pissed.

India needs flesh light relief packages dropped in.

I'm sure they could give the village all the free reciprocated sex they want and it wouldn't change. Keeping order through fear and "putting women in their place" is the thing they crave most. It's disgusting.
 
India is truly a god-forsaken land.

Anarchy, racism, misogyny, you name it. If it's cruel and repulsive they've got it.

India needs flesh light relief packages dropped in.

What are they supposed to do with those? You can't dp a flesh light.

Edit: Welp, apparently you can. I shouldn't have googled that.
 

Ephidel

Member
which of the green countries is supposed to be the darker shade of green? they all look light green to me
There is no dark shade.
ugh now i realize thats the point

that map is really upsetting, and of course the story in the OP is disgusting as well
Looking at the map there are actually one or two spots on there that are darker green. Definitely the Armenia/Azerbaijan area anyhow, and possibly Kuwait but that one's rather small so it's difficult to tell.
 
It's like something out of Berserk. What the fuck is wrong with these people? Are they even human?

Note: I'm talking about the guilty (caught or still in hiding), not just Indians in general.
 

Lamel

Banned
I want to know the specifics of this "violation". Was it because she intended to marry outside the village? Or because she was hindu and the dude was muslim (sounds like a muslim name)?

This is fucking gross. That tribal leader deserves death.

I know there is a lot of turmoil in India and progress will be made eventually. People posting "nuke this country from orbit" is kind of fucked up honestly.
 

injurai

Banned
India...just

8VAR27a.jpg

Are you sure that's the right .gif?

Is this the gif you meant to use?

I don't. Are you cheering?

Why is it always India? Ugh.

Worst use of this gif... EVER.


You should probably actually watch the entire gif before using it.

You think it's cute?

It's black humor. I don't even wan't to explain it for those who missed it.

It's an intentional juxtaposition off an inappropriate response meant to drive you towards proper disgust that people actually shrug off such such horrors as such. At least this is how I read it.
 

TheOGB

Banned
This is fucking horseshit

The mentalities needed to believe that people and their needs and rights are inferior to another human's needs to fucking die.
 

Dr.Acula

Banned
It's black humor. I don't even wan't to explain it for those who missed it.

It's an intentional juxtaposition off an inappropriate response meant to drive you towards proper disgust that people actually shrug off such such horrors as such. At least this is how I read it.

You read it correctly, it's just that it went over like a lead balloon. Happens, sometimes instead of coming off as ironic, a person comes off as simply insensitive.
 

Madness

Member
What the fuck is wrong with India?

Nothing too out of the ordinary except you have a very conservative society that is over 1.2 billion + people. It's like hearing about a gun death in America and then going, what a wrong in America.

A big problem is, with the big middle class and education push, you have a group of people be marginalized. Most of these stories always involve rural areas, or people who aren't exactly 'educated'.

Also, you have a society that has been historically male-dominated, and so to many of us, it seems horrendous and out of place, but not to them. I can't explain it any better.

There is nothing that can be done except wait, wait as these old ways die off, wait as less and less people believe in rural customs or traditions etc. Just know that more and more every year, millions of women are able to find jobs, get educated, and society is changing. Even though it's a long time by Western standards. I think as more women are involved in government, are involved in aspects of Indian society, these rural stories will diminish.

Then again, you have to remember, in a country of over 1.2 billion people, where 4 of the major religions of the world were formed and with over 26 official languages, and with a weak central government, it's very hard to pass far reaching laws.
 

Acrylic7

Member
''Mr. Mardi ordered the couple to pay fines totaling 27,000 rupees, or about $442,''

I know this isn't a funny situation but out of nowhere I had this image of the guy desperately trying to cut his grass with a sword, spinning frantically.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom