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[Oozer3993]

Kasdan had little to do with the mentor idea. Like just about everything Star Wars in cinema from 1977 to 2005, it came from George Lucas. Han's stepfather appeared in the first, rough draft for Empire Strikes Back, written by Leigh Brackett. Kasdan would be brought in after Brackett's untimely death. The stepfather's name was Ovan Marekal and he was an extremely powerful figure in the galaxy. According to the draft, only the Emperor and Vader were more important. George had come up with a back story for Han and his stepfather during story conferences with Leigh in late 1977. From those notes:

Han's stepfather is a Hemingway-esque character. His father was a trader and his father's father was a trader, and they honed out this trading post-empire and pretty soon it became this giant thing. In his trading, he came across Han and took him under his wing for eight or nine years- until they had a falling out at the end and had a bitter fight over something. Han swore he would never talk to him again.

(From The Making of The Empire Strikes Back)

In the early drafts of Empire, Leia approaches Han early in the movie to talk to his stepfather about allying with the Rebellion. Han initially refuses, but by the end of the script he agrees and it ends with him and Chewie flying off in the Falcon to find the stepfather.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Han solo has no mentor

He does when they reset the EU.

 

[MHWilliams]

How dumb. Who decided that Han Solo needed a mentor?

The folks who wrote him in the first place?

He does when they reset the EU.

He had one in the EU too. Mostly because "Han Solo springs forth fully formed" doesn't make much sense.

 

[Einchy]

Sure, why not.

 

[jett]

Why does Han Solo need a mentor.

This is such shit.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

He had one in the EU too. Mostly because "Han Solo springs forth fully formed" doesn't make much sense.

Huh...TIL.

 

[chuckddd]

Young Lando: Don't you have any friends? You're always by yourself.

Young Han: I'M SOLO.

Movie writes itself.

Nice. About time gaf got a replacement for Whitta.

 

[Sharpeye]

Why does Han Solo need a mentor.

This is such shit.

Boba Fett had Cad Bane as a mentor, only fair Solo gets one too. These people aren't born badasses, they gotta learn.

 

[broncobuster]

Is he going to be like Qui Gon in how he's basically an older version of the younger version of an older character?

 

[water_wendi]

i dont really get the issue with Han Solo having a mentor?

 

[Sectorseven]

Han mentored first.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

i dont really get the issue with Han Solo having a mentor?

I think I know why:

There's a mental picture people have of Han Solo (and by extension SW) and the bits that don't fit that, they cast out.

 

[Skellig Gra]

Is Burt Reynolds not available?

 

[TheWrathOfSean]

These people aren't born badasses

This is Han Solo we're talking about here.

 

[jett]

Kasdan had little to do with the mentor idea. Like just about everything Star Wars in cinema from 1977 to 2005, it came from George Lucas. Han's stepfather appeared in the first, rough draft for Empire Strikes Back, written by Leigh Brackett. Kasdan would be brought in after Brackett's untimely death. The stepfather's name was Ovan Marekal and he was an extremely powerful figure in the galaxy. According to the draft, only the Emperor and Vader were more important. George had come up with a back story for Han and his stepfather during story conferences with Leigh in late 1977. From those notes:



(From The Making of The Empire Strikes Back)

In the early drafts of Empire, Leia approaches Han early in the movie to talk to his stepfather about allying with the Rebellion. Han initially refuses, but by the end of the script he agrees and it ends with him and Chewie flying off in the Falcon to find the stepfather.

That's interesting stuff, didn't know the first draft diverged that much. Reading up on it, Vader isn't Luke's dad in it, and in fact Ghost Obi-Wan brings Ghost Anakin with him to say waddup to his son (and tell him about his sister "Nellith"). This dialogue is all awful.

Boba Fett had Cad Bane as a mentor, only fair Solo gets one too. These people aren't born badasses, they gotta learn.

You know what, I don't think I'm interested in that. I thought this was just a Han Solo prequel, not Han Solo Begins or Han Solo: Origins. I actually wonder what's it gonna be titled.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Everyone has mentors in their life. One does not need the title to play the role. You had some, I had some, your grandma had some, Harrison Ford had some. A mentor is just someone who helps you grow and shape your beliefs, behavior and values.

So yes, Han Solo had a mentor.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

This film is either gonna be the best SW film since ESB or worse than the prequels...

 

[Jarmel]

Kasdan had little to do with the mentor idea. Like just about everything Star Wars in cinema from 1977 to 2005, it came from George Lucas. Han's stepfather appeared in the first, rough draft for Empire Strikes Back, written by Leigh Brackett. Kasdan would be brought in after Brackett's untimely death. The stepfather's name was Ovan Marekal and he was an extremely powerful figure in the galaxy. According to the draft, only the Emperor and Vader were more important. George had come up with a back story for Han and his stepfather during story conferences with Leigh in late 1977. From those notes:

(From The Making of The Empire Strikes Back)

In the early drafts of Empire, Leia approaches Han early in the movie to talk to his stepfather about allying with the Rebellion. Han initially refuses, but by the end of the script he agrees and it ends with him and Chewie flying off in the Falcon to find the stepfather.

lol wtf

We'll see how they handle it in the film but Han's 'dad' being some super rich guy that nobody fucking mentions is beyond laughable.

 

[rekameohs]

That's interesting stuff, didn't know the first draft diverged that much. Reading up on it, Vader isn't Luke's dad in it, and in fact Ghost Obi-Wan brings Ghost Anakin with him to say waddup to his son (and tell him about his sister "Nellith"). This dialogue is all awful.



You know what, I don't think I'm interested in that. I thought this was just a Han Solo prequel, not Han Solo Begins or Han Solo: Origins. I actually wonder what's it gonna be titled.

I don't see why they'd pick anything other than Han Solo: A Star Wars Story

This film is either gonna be the best SW film since ESB or worse than the prequels...

Every single Star Wars movie from here on out will have both of those descriptions given to it by the fans in the first week of release.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

This film is either gonna be the best SW film since ESB or worse than the prequels...

Lord and Miller ain't letting the latter happen.

Have faith.

 

[jett]

Lord and Miller ain't letting the latter happen.

Have faith.

Eh, those two aren't great enough to be dud-proof.

 

[inm8num2]

In my head this movie is basically Rounders: A Star Wars Story.

Han is Damon. Woody's character is Turturro. Lando is Ed Norton. Han wins the Falcon in sabacc, after which Lando decides to get out of smuggling and gambling. In the film's climax Han battles Malkovich the Hutt in an even higher stakes sabacc game.

I'm all in.

 

[Jarmel]

Can't wait for the movie about the mentor to Han's mentor!

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Eh, those two aren't great enough to be dud-proof.

At worst, it will be dumb fun.

At best, it will be the best of the new movies.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

I always wanted to know who showed Han how to be a overconfident scoundrel with a heart of gold who doesn't pay his debts.

 

[Cipher Peon]

I don't care at all if Han Solo has a mentor or not (mostly because I don't think he's interesting enough to hold sacred or even remember exists a lot of the time), but Woody Harrelson is AWESOME news. Zombieland is easily one of my favorite movies ever and he rocked that movie HARD

Even though I don't give a damn about the Han Solo character, the amount of talent coming into this movie easily makes it the first Star Wars movie that I feel like is going to be amazing! Excited!!

 

[sleverfunk]

Wait what!? He was on 2012? mindblown!

 

[golem]

Han solo has no mentor

This

 

[Number_6]

Oh shit.

Han Solo is a stealth YA film

Well, it is about a young, yet adult, Han Solo.

 

[Adam_Vania]

ofc they gonna find a way to put a Death Star into this movie too

 

[norm9]

ofc they gonna find a way to put a Death Star into this movie too

Death Star mentor.

 

[always crazy bacon]

Han Solo doesn't need a mentor. But I guess for the film to work he needs someone to talk with as 2 hours of just Chewie would not be interesting.

 

[matrix-cat]

The story of Han Solo before he was Han Solo, i.e. when he was just some loser. No thanks, bruh.

The stepfather's name was Ovan Marekal and he was an extremely powerful figure in the galaxy. According to the draft, only the Emperor and Vader were more important. George had come up with a back story for Han and his stepfather during story conferences with Leigh in late 1977.

Yikes.

 

[jett]

The story of Han Solo before he was Han Solo, i.e. when he was just some loser. No thanks, bruh.

Han Zero: A Starwar Story

Han Solo doesn't need a mentor. But I guess for the film to work he needs someone to talk with as 2 hours of just Chewie would not be interesting.

Well there's Lando I guess. Two swindling street rats, partners in crime?

And now I assume Han will meet Chewie in this movie for the first time. How Solo Met Chewie, if you will.

 

[Adam_Vania]

Well there's Lando I guess. Two swindling street rats, partners in crime?

And now I assume Han will meet Chewie in this movie for the first time. How Solo Met Chewie, if you will.

they also got to show Lando losing the Falcon in a card game

 

[Shaanyboi]

Literally laughing at the idea of a Han Solo mentor

Because he learned how to be a crook, how to fly, and how to shoot right from birth, obviously.

 

[CrichtonKicks]

That's interesting stuff, didn't know the first draft diverged that much. Reading up on it, Vader isn't Luke's dad in it, and in fact Ghost Obi-Wan brings Ghost Anakin with him to say waddup to his son (and tell him about his sister "Nellith"). This dialogue is all awful.



You know what, I don't think I'm interested in that. I thought this was just a Han Solo prequel, not Han Solo Begins or Han Solo: Origins. I actually wonder what's it gonna be titled.

Han having a mentor doesn't mean that he is actually being mentored in the film. It's just as possible that Harrelson was a mentor before the film begins and they've since had a falling out. Harrelson is probably most likely going to be the antagonist of the film.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

ofc they gonna find a way to put a Death Star into this movie too

Kessel Run was about smuggling parts for the Death Star, confirmed.

 

[Adam_Vania]

Han having a mentor doesn't mean that he is actually being mentored in the film. It's just as possible that Harrelson was a mentor before the film begins and they've since had a falling out. Harrelson is probably most likely going to be the antagonist of the film.

every post-prequel Star Wars film has had a main character lose their father so maybe in this Han loses his mentor because CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

 

[norm9]

In this new canon, Han is sensitive to midichlorians.

A tragic experience which results in him losing his mentor will sour him to the idea of the firce, hence his condescending speech about not believing in mystical nonsense years later in New Hope.

 

[ronaldthump]

Woody Harrellson would come with onscreen baggage. I hope he doesn't get it.

The whole time he is in THG, I just thought yup. Woody Harrelson. See also: now you see me + that one with the earth ending.

 

[Drifters]

Zombieland Cinematic Universe?

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

Hmmmm. Harrelson's range and history could result in something really great or really not great.

Only a sith deals in absolutes

 

[demosthenes]

Love this post.

The folks who wrote him in the first place?



He had one in the EU too. Mostly because "Han Solo springs forth fully formed" doesn't make much sense.

This. A lot, this.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

The folks who wrote him in the first place?

Greedo shot first.

 

[Nairume]

every post-prequel Star Wars film has had a main character lose their father so maybe in this Han loses his mentor because CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

That was a thing in the OT, too.

 

[Skatterd]

 

[Tallshortman]

Hmmmm. Harrelson's range and history could result in something really great or really not great.

Yep that's how I feel. This could be great or a train wreck, I don't see it being merely okay or meh.

 

[KeyBladerXIII]

Not everybody needs a fucking mentor, least of all Han Solo.

Woody, however, would be awesome in Star Wars.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

If he plays the kind of mentor like in Kingpin, day one.