letsbereasonable
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DeathNote said:
A guild member tried to reforge resilience off one of the wrathful weapons and said it wouldn't let him.
Alex said:
I would bet he has to buy Wrath.
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A guild member tried to reforge resilience off one of the wrathful weapons and said it wouldn't let him.
I would bet he has to buy Wrath.
DeathNote said:
You can't reforge resilience.
And for the other question, i'm almost sure you need Wrath for Cataclysm. Anyway it wouldn't make sense to skip Wrath for Cataclysm when 80% of its content is stuff for lvl 80+, and you need Wrath for 70-80.
letsbereasonable
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Has anyone either in the beta or following it heard what the approximate hours-per-level for 80-85 is? This will be the first time I've had more than 1 character at cap going into an xpac and I'm hoping it won't be too torturous to work multiples back up again.
Vigilant Walrus
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Alex said:
I think after Cata, it might be a good idea to include BC and Wrath into the base game. It might be getting a bit out of hand.
Vigilant Walrus said:
At this point in the game, TBC should be free, Wrath should get it's price slashed at least in half, and full-price for Cata. It's absurd to do the start up costs if you're a new player, and considering they're trying harder than ever to attract new players, they need to do this to happen in large numbers like they're hoping for.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It won't even let you install Cataclysm without WLK if it works like BC, which I don't see why it wouldn't.Interfectum said:
But frankly, Blizzard should roll old Expansions into the Core game after it's no longer current content.
Danoss said:That's very true! When I jump on a zeppelin or go through the mini-instance in ICC from Saurfang to the inside of the citadel, it's funny to load in and then wait for the other people... and wait, and wait, and wait.
Oh, so a SSD is a big improvement on game performance then? Some people said it had little to no impact on WoW. My next rig is going to have SSDs so this is good news.
notworksafe
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lolJ-Rzez said:
The reason everything isn't cheap is because it still sells. If they really had problems attracting people, the base game or BC would be free.
SnakeswithLasers
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Man, so a new player now is at $120. That's crazy. ($40 for battlechest, $40 for wrath, $40 for cat)
It'd be nice if you got more than just one month free as an incentive. Or if wrath got bundled into the BC and it was $50 or $60.
Edit: ^^^^ Ya, I know it still sells and that they don't "have" to reduce it. Just saying it would be nice. I mean, I'd pick up the set for my girlfriend if I could get her up to date for $80 or so. At $120, I'm not even going to bother trying.
It'd be nice if you got more than just one month free as an incentive. Or if wrath got bundled into the BC and it was $50 or $60.
Edit: ^^^^ Ya, I know it still sells and that they don't "have" to reduce it. Just saying it would be nice. I mean, I'd pick up the set for my girlfriend if I could get her up to date for $80 or so. At $120, I'm not even going to bother trying.
HarryDemeanor
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letsbereasonable said:
By the time I was finished with Mount Hyjal and Vashj'ir I was 83 so I don't think it'll take long. I couldn't tell you as to how long each level took as I never actually looked at what my play time was for each level.
SnakeswithLasers said:
This is why I have not picked up the game yet, I'm waiting for Black Friday sales.
Blizzard can get away with it, but I wish they would include all previous content in new expansions, SoE does this with Everquest.
SnakeswithLasers
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I just saw an article implying that most characters will have ~100k HP at 85. Is this true?
Vigilant Walrus
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Did any of you guys hear anything about the Authendicator being bundled with base Cataclysm? You remember all the rumors months ago about the hacking being such a problem that they would include one in every box for free?
Any truth to that?
I dont want want to pay the shipping for such a tiny thing. It seems silly.
If I had a Iphone I could get the mobile authendicator for free right? dammit. My phone cant do jack!
Any truth to that?
I dont want want to pay the shipping for such a tiny thing. It seems silly.
If I had a Iphone I could get the mobile authendicator for free right? dammit. My phone cant do jack!
Azwethinkweiz
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80-82 is really quick. Maybe took me an hour and a half per level. Then the xp requirement jumps considerably and it takes a lot longer.
MattPeters
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WoWhead is borked for me as well.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Vigilant Walrus said:Did any of you guys hear anything about the Authendicator being bundled with base Cataclysm? You remember all the rumors months ago about the hacking being such a problem that they would include one in every box for free?
Any truth to that?
I dont want want to pay the shipping for such a tiny thing. It seems silly.
If I had a Iphone I could get the mobile authendicator for free right? dammit. My phone cant do jack!
Pretty sure the answer is no for bundled authenticators. However! They did just announce a new version of authenticator today - you dial a toll-free number to set up some info, and log in as usual with only account name and password after that. It'll prompt you to call the number if it detects something unusual, like logging in from somewhere that isn't your normal computer. Seems way more convenient for a lot of people.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Iadien said:
Yeah, when I first bought WoW 2 years ago now, I got the battle chest on Black Friday for $15 I think. Pretty sexy deal. That was at Circuit City however, but other places had it for $20. Just have to wait and see this year.
notworksafe
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Wait what? Link!CarbonatedFalcon said:
EDIT: Wow! Neat idea! http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1113829#blog
EDIT 2: Seems this isn't a "real" authenticator. It just has you call in to a number (from a preregistered phone number only) and put in a PIN when you want to play from a computer that isn't your normal one. Still a cool idea, and free authentication for the cheap/lazy. Can't use it with a normal authenticator already on your account so I didn't add it. I wonder if it gives you the Core Hound pet?
HarryDemeanor
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notworksafe said:
That's a really good service for those who can't buy authenticators. Doesn't the Korean or Chinese version of World of Warcraft use a service like this for players? I feel like I've heard of it before.
Sax Russel
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SnakeswithLasers said:
My level 85 premade warlock in 359 epics has 113k with no buffs, 85 lock in questing gear (average level 321) has 96k... so yes! =D
Interfectum
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SnakeswithLasers said:
Under special circumstances... yes. Say a new player wants to roll a Worgan or Goblin, they are boned.
BUT... if they just want to play the game from 1-60 in the new world to try it out, all they have to buy is the vanilla wow.
Alex
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Retail for PC probably isn't as impressive of a market as it sounds, even in the top 10! I have to imagine juggling so many configurations at this point is a bit obnoxious to fence sitters and there's heaps of people who buy for extra accounts, RAF, etc.
I couldn't get ANY of my friends to try out F2P LOTRO with me just because of how convoluted it's model was. :lol
It's odd since BC went into the Battlechest one year after launch, but here we are, two years later.
I couldn't get ANY of my friends to try out F2P LOTRO with me just because of how convoluted it's model was. :lol
It's odd since BC went into the Battlechest one year after launch, but here we are, two years later.
notworksafe
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Convoluted? Sorry but it sounds like your friends are lazy. :lol LOTRO had the easiest model of them all. Pay zero, then buy a mount at 20 and quest packs at around 35ish. Or just buy the game and play for free til 50, buying xpacs after that like any other MMO.
Alex
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When you have a gigantic flow chart filled to the brim with random shit that makes no sense to anyone not already educated with the game, it's a bit rough.
Hell, even here there were huge discussions and confusion abound on how to get the best from the system by jumping through all these loops. When folks do F2P, they need to lay down a better system, like Riot. I've yet to see a decent F2P setup besides Riot's, and that's prob why they've seen so much success.
Hell, even here there were huge discussions and confusion abound on how to get the best from the system by jumping through all these loops. When folks do F2P, they need to lay down a better system, like Riot. I've yet to see a decent F2P setup besides Riot's, and that's prob why they've seen so much success.
notworksafe
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I dunno, maybe it's just me but I didn't have any problems. I bought the game+first xpac in one box (for $8) and then played for free doing nothing else until level 40ish when I got bored and went back to WoW. :lol
Probably would have stayed longer if more people I knew were playing.
EDIT: Now if you had brought up EQ2's screwy system I'd agree.
Probably would have stayed longer if more people I knew were playing.
EDIT: Now if you had brought up EQ2's screwy system I'd agree.
notworksafe
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Yeah but it's quite a pain. F2P is on its own servers and is super restricted.
http://everquest2.com/free_to_play/extended_faq
http://everquest2.com/free_to_play/extended_faq
Vigilant Walrus
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I am not sure any of their models seem very smart.(EQ2 or LOTRO).
Age of Conan could really benefit from F2P. That game often does not feel like a MMO. Its not to take anything away from the game. the combat is great and uniqe - as is the music, art and graphics, and the world. its brutal and fun. But the many loading screens and small zones create a claustrophobic feeling. loading screen ads would work for that game because the player would see them all the time, when changing areas.
Age of Conan could really benefit from F2P. That game often does not feel like a MMO. Its not to take anything away from the game. the combat is great and uniqe - as is the music, art and graphics, and the world. its brutal and fun. But the many loading screens and small zones create a claustrophobic feeling. loading screen ads would work for that game because the player would see them all the time, when changing areas.
notworksafe
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Bah.
I guess the Dial-in Authenticator isn't secure enough to trust with your guild bank, but it's still pretty cool.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1113829#c-1009741295
I guess the Dial-in Authenticator isn't secure enough to trust with your guild bank, but it's still pretty cool.
Cool thanks on the SSD info. I think even those little things are worth the price of entry for the SSDs.
And yes, I'm saying there are many people that I know that won't invest in WoW as a fresh new player because how high the start up price is. Especially because a trial doesn't give you a good feeling of the game, as it's all about endgame.
And yes, I'm saying there are many people that I know that won't invest in WoW as a fresh new player because how high the start up price is. Especially because a trial doesn't give you a good feeling of the game, as it's all about endgame.
Well, the start price is free. At level 10 or 20, if they want more, they can pay $36? Then, if they want more at 70.. It's not a big deal to pay $20, assuming wotlk drops to that.J-Rzez said:
You can't say judge the game at 80 or 85. They have to like 1-20, 20-70 before even getting there.
After they balance lower levels and before 4.0.1, 1-10/20 does give you a good idea of the game. Leveling, instancing, BG.
Didn't see it mentioned... Blizzard just confirmed that race transfers to Goblin and Worgen will be available the moment they flip the Cataclysm servers on.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1116854#blog
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1116854#blog
Now I have a decision to make.
MattPeters
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I hate you so much Rokan >_<
Ive been doing Kara for over a year hoping for that mount.
Ive been doing Kara for over a year hoping for that mount.
Rokam said:Hooray! Lady luck smiles upon me.
I'm a little surprised they're letting immediate race changes happen. Figured they'd make people wait till someone hit 85 on one of those races.
They just got around it by making the Level 85 Worgen/Goblin feats to also require you to have completed the newbie zone, which you can't do unless you rolled one to start.
HarryDemeanor
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Evlar said:
Nice. Good to see the option is there day one for those who want to do it.
notworksafe
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Tauren Paladin race-change day one!
Maybe I'll change my name from Aurayouready to Taurayouready.
Maybe I'll change my name from Aurayouready to Taurayouready.
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