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Sciz

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Angry Grimace said:
Hilarious. You can do almost 10000 DPS on the PTR by spamming Scorch (and Pyro when you get Hot Streak) :lol
while never standing still for a second and with infinite mana

I don't know if I'll be able to go back to any other caster spec now.
 

Bisnic

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They sure nerfed Arcane a lot while buffing Fire almost everywhere. Guess we can say bye bye to them. Arcane will just spam Arcane Blast at this rate. As if using it 4 times + 1 Arcane Missiles wasn't enough.

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Arcane

* Arcane Blast base damage increased by 25%.
* Arcane Barrage base damage reduced by 8%.
* Arcane Missiles base damage reduced by 14%.
* Arcane Power now increases spell cost by 10%, down from 20%.
* Focus Magic now increases your chance to critically hit with spells when the target critically hits.
* Arcane Flows now reduces the cooldown of your Presence of Mind, Arcane Power and Invisibility spells by 12/25%. (Down from 15/30%)


Fire

* Living Bomb base damage increased by 4%.
* Scorch base damage increased by 10%.
* Pyroblast base damage increased by 4%.
* Fireball base damage increased by 4%.
* Critical Mass now also increases the damage of Living Bomb and Flame Orb spells by 5/10/15%.
* Combustion now deals critical strike Fire damage.
* Improved Hot Streak now also has a chance to proc from Pyroblast.
* Hot Streak now also has a chance to proc from Pyroblast.
* Impact now also resets the cooldown on Fire Blast when it procs.
 

notworksafe

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I wish. Real Plainsrunning was awesome, but way to overpowered for PvP. Who knows though? Could just be a temporary spell or something like that. There was concept art for a Worgen mount, but no model yet.

I bet Worgen don't get this as a mount though. Alliance would whine that they couldn't buy a Worgen mount as another race, and Blizz isn't going at add an "all fours" animation for all the races.
 
sykoex said:
Is that the Worgen sprint/rocket boots racial?

No. To quote MMO Champion: "This spell doesn't apply a mod speed, and applies a "Mounted" aura to the player. It's a racial, and it's apparently a Level 20 spell. It also has a 1.5 sec cast time, like all the mounts spells. I don't want to say it yet, but that would explain why we never saw a model for the Worgen Mount."

The sprint racial is called Darkflight.
 
Nope, Darkflight is the movement speed increase racial. Running Wild is probably just an old concept idea they had for Worgen before they went with the Were-pig route for them.
 

unifin

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HarryDemeanor said:
Nope, Darkflight is the movement speed increase racial. Running Wild is probably just an old concept idea they had for Worgen before they went with the Were-pig route for them.

Except for the fact that Worgen already have "placeholder" mounts (free NE mounts) in the beta, and that this is an entirely new spell.

Running as a worgen seems so much more natural to the race than shoehorning in some new type of creature.
 
unifin said:
Except for the fact that Worgen already have "placeholder" mounts (free NE mounts) in the beta, and that this is an entirely new spell.

Running as a worgen seems so much more natural to the race than shoehorning in some new type of creature.

Well then it's going to suck for Alliance players when they put in a new mount achievement and they're down 6 mounts for one race.
 

Sciz

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HarryDemeanor said:
Well then it's going to suck for Alliance players when they put in a new mount achievement and they're down 6 mounts for one race.
I think Goblins only have two mounts at the moment, no skinned versions. Blizzard has gone out of their way to keep mount counts even before, I don't see why they wouldn't now.
 
HarryDemeanor said:
Well then it's going to suck for Alliance players when they put in a new mount achievement and they're down 6 mounts for one race.

Who gives a shit, the Alliance had that stupid frost saber for years while Horde players had to wait for their Un'Goro raptor
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Sciz said:
There is absolutely nothing to envy about the grind for the frostsaber.

A month of dailies for a raptor?

Easy.


yeah it took like 60 hours for me to grind that out. i got timbermaw hold rep while i was doing it at least.
 
Sciz said:
There is absolutely nothing to envy about the grind for the frostsaber.

A month of dailies for a raptor?

Easy.

I didn't say that, just claiming that sometimes fair is not equal. The factions being different is a good thing.
 

C.Dark.DN

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I always thought ZG was the only way to get a raptor before mark of honor purchasing.

Wait, the raptor went live 3.2. Makes me feel better.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
notworksafe said:
I'd pay real money to get old Plainsrunning back...as long as the time until it kicked in was lowered to a reasonable amount.
Plainsrunning sucked by all accounts, though.
 

C.Dark.DN

Banned
never knew about Plainsrunning. started playing late 2005.

bringing the cast time down would be easy enough. letting them use other mounts would be logical. "NO, you can't master a simple riding skill."

could Taurens attack while circle strafing in BG's? rather than make the aura go away when stopping, a simple fix would to not let them attack and to have damage break the aura?
 

notworksafe

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Angry Grimace said:
Plainsrunning sucked by all accounts, though.
Yeah it wasn't great because it took 10 seconds of running to kick in. If it was something like 2-3, it'd be way more awesome. You could attack while using it, but it'd break if you were hit.
 

Angry Grimace

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notworksafe said:
Yeah it wasn't great because it took 10 seconds of running to kick in. If it was something like 2-3, it'd be way more awesome. You could attack while using it, but it'd break if you were hit.
It would be EXTREMELY annoying because it would trigger while you were just running around to do ANYTHING.

Basically all of the problems with regular Plainsrunning but with shorter times, which would be even more aggravating for accidental pulling and running past targets.

* Mounts were a three second cast time, and lasted until dazed. Players normally do not dismount upon standing still; see below.
* It took the full ten seconds to gain the speed every time, and the speed would dissipate every time the player was hit.
* If the player stopped moving, the buff would go away and it would take ten seconds to reapply it.
* Those limitations were designed to make sure tauren wouldn't run circles around others in PvP, but they clearly showed to be far inferior to a normal mount and nearly impossible to balance.
* It would sometimes kick in at the worst possible moment, causing unwanted body pulls.
 

Tamanon

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MagicJackBauer said:
I got a feeling we are getting 4.0 Tuesday...

Absolutely not.

And man, with Running Wild, Worgen Druids will be the ultimate shapeshifters, I know what I'm playing. And trying to get the mount that turns you into a Sand Drake!
 
And here you have it folks...
Source

Zarhym said:
Running Wild is indeed the new racial "mount" for worgen. Functionally the ability works exactly like a mount. This does mean the worgen are not bringing faction mounts to the table which other Alliance races can access. This is also of course very different from the original Plainsrunning implemented for taurens. We have no plans to try and bring that ability back in any form.

Ultimately, we feel Running Wild fits very well with the nature of the worgen race. Rather than getting a physical mount, they get down and sprint on all fours. When you're playing a worgen, it just feels awesome. :)

Sucks for Alliance mount collectors.

[EDIT] I jumped the gun.
 
Awesome! Can't wait to level a Worgen.

HarryDemeanor said:
And here you have it folks...
Source



Sucks for mount collectors. Guess this means the Goblin mounts stay exclusive to Goblins as well. My Orc was waiting to ride one.

How on earth does this mean no Goblin mounts for Horde?
 
funkmastergeneral said:
Awesome! Can't wait to level a Worgen.



How on earth does this mean no Goblin mounts for Horde?

I was under the impression that the trikes were bound for Goblins in the beta. Didn't know the other races were added to the restrictions. My fault. I haven't looked too much into the mounts.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Twirling Light is now a Rank 3 talent, down from Rank 4 and is now named Surge of Light and revamped - You have a 3/6% chance when you Smite or Heal to cause your next Flash Heal to be instant cast and cost no mana but incapable of a critical hit.
This seems pathetically weak for a talent that requires a 3 pt. investment.
 

Bisnic

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Surely they are going to add some exclusive non-Worgen mount to Alliance so they're not far behind Horde when it comes to collecting them.
 

speedpop

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Bisnic said:
Surely they are going to add some exclusive non-Worgen mount to Alliance so they're not far behind Horde when it comes to collecting them.
That depends on whether the other Horde races are able to use the Goblin mount.
 

Bisnic

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speedpop said:
That depends on whether the other Horde races are able to use the Goblin mount.

I don't see any reason why they wouldnt be able to. All current mounts are available for every races of their faction.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
* From Hell's Heart I Stab at Thee no longer rewards the title "Ishmael"

Strike Two Blizz.

Strike One was renaming "Nom nom nom"
 

Bisnic

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That doesnt really look like a mount compared to the Alliance's lion.

There is no seat, not to mention the big poisonus stinger that will probably stab the bigger horde races like orcs & taurens.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
So the PTR client wants me to download all 16GB again. I can do that overnight, but where do I go to delete the old shit? I'd rather not just shit up 16 gigs of my harddrive that I could be using to store porn other files.
 

VAIL

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Angry Grimace said:
So the PTR client wants me to download all 16GB again. I can do that overnight, but where do I go to delete the old shit? I'd rather not just shit up 16 gigs of my harddrive that I could be using to store porn other files.

It'll overwrite stuff
 

C.Dark.DN

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My PTR client is downloading it again too.

Under patch notes it says Beta patch notes and that the cap is being raised to 85 and etc?
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
DeathNote said:
My PTR client is downloading it again too.

Under patch notes it says Beta patch notes and that the cap is being raised to 85 and etc?
It's because the PTR client essentially is just the beta (i.e. Cataclysm), but you can't access anything cool.
 
MagicJackBauer said:
I got a feeling we are getting 4.0 Tuesday...
I WISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm working my butt off to get frost emblem gear on my prot pally and there isn't even any point since Cata is only months away. They should just switch frost emblems over to heroics already in my opinion. It takes way too long if you can't get into ICC yet. Is there any point in farming this crap only to get it a week or two before Cata?

I'm excited for brewfest on monday because I'll get a better stam trinket. I passed on the corroded skeleton key for the 60 badge belt, knowing brewfest was around the corner and I could get more bang for my buck that way. I may have the Boots of Kingly Upheaval made, too.

Last week on my main, I finally got the 277 sanguine robes off of prince council for my demo lock. Those are sooo good, and only the 2nd time our guild has seen them drop.

Our poor main tank (warrior) has been waiting for the shield to drop off of Blood Queen since we got her on farm and it's never, EVER dropped, and that's in both normal and heroic difficulty. We're talking 6-7 months of downing her. Our guild has never seen them and cata is about to come out. What kind of bullshit is that? I think RNG sucks ass and blizz should switch loot to an item drop rotation, at least in raids. It may be more predictable, but at least it's fair.
 

firex

Member
Angry Grimace said:
This seems pathetically weak for a talent that requires a 3 pt. investment.
I don't know. It's a free heal that procs on a 3/6% chance (2 point investment, not 3) when you cast your mainstay healing spell or smite.
 

LAUGHTREY

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Bisnic said:
That doesnt really look like a mount compared to the Alliance's lion.

There is no seat, not to mention the big poisonus stinger that will probably stab the bigger horde races like orcs & taurens.
It's just a base model. The mount with the saddle will probably come a little later.



I don't really think "Scorpion" when I think Horde, at least not like Lion and Alliance.
 

Yazus

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Lolligag said:
Patches normally come out at least 2 weeks after prepatching starts from what I noticed, so no.

Yes, you are right. Hence I say first week of October, 4.0.1 with new talents and stuff.
Last three weeks of October the Cataclysm event
Last week of October 4.0.3 with the new world
First week of November Cataclysm

relase date around 1 to 10 of november
 
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