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funkmastergeneral
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johnsmith said:
Enhance is doing great right now. Elemental is garbage.
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I wish I could enter the Black Temple and have a nosy around as a level 85. I need a raid group, dang.
cuevas. PhD.
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LukeSmith said:
Confirmed.
scoobs
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Holy shit blizzard just released a hot fix that nerfed death coil by another 25%, as well dark transformation by another 20% and empower ghoul by 2%. HOLY FUCK they just made me instantly unviable. Amazing stuff blizz, glad i spent all this time getting unholy gear. Really worked out or me.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Unholy gear is exactly the same as Frost gear and my guess is that you don't have any actual factual basis to claim you're unviable beyond you saw "X has been reduced by 15%."scoobs said:
Given that every other spec that was topping meters has been nerfed, what could you really expect? Survival was nerfed hard and Affliction is the lowest parsing DPS spec for Warlocks.
It happens. The problem is that your concept is that other DPS specs should be brought up to the level of the highest performing spec rather than outliers brought back to the median.
wonderdung
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First time I've ever ranked decently on a fight... 12th for fire mages on Heroic Chimaeron.
2/12 heroic! It's been a nice patch so far.
2/12 heroic! It's been a nice patch so far.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Angry Grimace said:
No, it wasn't necessarily the same. Frost favored mastery WAY more than Unholy prior to the patch, who preferred haste. Now it's iffier, and I haven't checked to see if stat weights were updated somewhere.
On a depressing note, I was just let go of the guild I had applied to 3 weeks ago tonight. Now I'm not sure what I want to do, as the last time I was let go, I quit the game for 6 months.
I have enough gear at this point, so that isn't an issue at all. My problem is that I'm pretty sure there are no other guilds on the realm that will fit me, and leaving 2 other 85s and 2 70s behind is kind of a big deal, since I can't afford (and don't want to) transfer multiple characters all at once.
*Sigh*
I'll probably just play minimally for a week or two and think about it.
Whelp, according to consider, before considering the hotfix, "2H Unholy > DW Frost = 2H Frost with 2H Unholy being ~2% ahead, DW Frost and 2H Frost being within 0.5% of one another". Regarding the hotfixes he said, "The hotfixes are like a 4%ish nerf, by the way. Make with that what you will. I'll see how weights change tomorrow." So I assume it'll be DW Frost = 2H Frost > 2H Unholy with Frost being ~2% ahead,. If 2H frost is still Haste, like it was in 4.0.3, then Unholy can = Frost (2h) gear.scoobs said:
So you're not inviable. Since you were unholy, one would assume you only had a 2h weapon, so your Unholy gear would = Frost (2h).
Get a friend with a high level character to help you out over there. As soon as you get the boss killing quests done that require 3-5 characters, you'll be set.Ferny73 said:
I spent less than two days leveling through the Outlands and then headed out for Northrend. Had to suppress my OCD in order not to do all the quests and exploration over in the BC area.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Dreadblade is better than Blightcaller.scoobs said:
If only they would invent some sort of system where you could turn one stat into another.
charlequin
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Rez said:
Just get any random person to party with you and choose "convert to raid." When my wife wants to solo an old raid, I log on an alt, party with her, and log out again; the character'll still stay in the group even though they're offline.
Ferny73 said:
You can go to Borean Tundra or Howling Fjord at 68. You're almost there.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm pretty sure the quote was "We aren't interested in changing Outland," not "We'd like to change Outland."Bisnic said:
Ninjaedit: "Certainly some of the lessons we've learned in quest flow, mechanics, rewards, etc. could make Outland quests better, but we don't have any plans at this time to go back."
Outlands is fastest bracket IMO.
With heirlooms, guild perks, no battlegrounds, no dungeons, and assuming I did my maths correct:
I did ~400 quests from 1-60 after the shattering.
291 in Outlands; 60-70
359 in Northrend; 70-80
470 In the new cat zones to get to 85. 565 total for Twilight Highlands.
With heirlooms, guild perks, no battlegrounds, no dungeons, and assuming I did my maths correct:
I did ~400 quests from 1-60 after the shattering.
291 in Outlands; 60-70
359 in Northrend; 70-80
470 In the new cat zones to get to 85. 565 total for Twilight Highlands.
Outlands isn't bad, it's once you hit 68 and think, ALRIGHT TO NORTHREND! And you get there.....and it's such an annoying slog. That's the death of alts to me. Got a 73 Pally sitting there that I keep meaning to get back to, blah.
Especially since you have to be 80 for the new zones, I've only done maybe 5 quests in the 80-85 zones total since I've hit altitis and keep getting stopped around Northrend.
Really need to push the Pally through this week, I swear!
Especially since you have to be 80 for the new zones, I've only done maybe 5 quests in the 80-85 zones total since I've hit altitis and keep getting stopped around Northrend.
Really need to push the Pally through this week, I swear!
Bisnic said:
I remember a comment a few months ago but here was a recent one that refers to it:
Edit: Wrong link, correct one: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/156978/disappointing-statement-from-eu-forums
2011/02/08
charlequin
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Bisnic said:
Yeah. The consistent blue response is that revamping Outland, putting flying in the BC starting areas, etc. are never going to happen and you shouldn't even think about the possibility that they might, because a community manager's job is to be a good forum biscuit and pretend that things aren't going to ever happen until they're confirmed to be part of an upcoming content patch or expansion. (The official blue response throughout Wrath was "it would be too much work to revamp the old world for flying, so it's never going to happen" even though they'd already started doing that work like a year before Wrath came out.)
The response from Mike Morhaime and Alex Afrasiabi at BlizzCon was that they wanted to do it and they were thinking about how and when, which certainly isn't a guarantee it'll ever happen but is a far cry from "we're not interested in doing it."
sprsk said:
My guess is that they will probably update Outlands once we get a proper expansion where we will invade the Burning Legion homeplanet, and at the same time update the story in Outlands so its not about Illidan, Kaelthas, Garrosh being a crybaby in Nagrand, etc. since the Burning Legion have an important lore in there.
cuevas. PhD.
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Ferrio said:
Because BC raiding was awesome.
So i just saw on the blue tracker at MMOchampion some thread about archaeology, and some guy mentioned how there is more tolvir digsites than before with the latest patch... but there is no mention of this on the patch notes. Was this confirmed somewhere and i missed it?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I would bet 100 bucks they never change the quests from Outland unless they reuse a zone for a future expansion.Bisnic said:
scoobs said:
Oh yeah man, we got freaking crushed. I was already tracking behind ranged which have it far easier in raids, hell, all pve in Cata. Now I just found out they did yet another nerf on top of the sweeping changes made in the patch? It's unbelievable. Now for sure I'm going to be the weak link in our raids. I won't lose my spot, but my guild relied on me to bring dps to help down bosses. Sure, we needed a nerf, but in typical bullshit blizzard fashion, they nerfed us into oblivion and will slowly buff us over the next year. Until then we suffer. Just like how they went overboard in Wrath with nerfing DK's due to PVP mainly, going from a class that needed some tuning to align dmg/utility/control, to something that was mediocre in the following pvp seasons and they didn't bother fixing until Cata launched.
Angry Grimace said:
Yeah? And Haste >>>>> Mastery still.
And yes, if they'd only invent some system where you can turn one stat into another, and not just 40% of one stat into a selection of others.
TheExodu5 said:
Oh you know what? I forgot about that. Never mind that melee has to work twice as hard in most encounters than ranged, they still shouldn't do competitive dps. Especially DK's.
charlequin
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sprsk said:
That's one of the worst ideas I've ever seen suggested in this thread.
Angry Grimace said:
I honestly can't see any reason you'd be so confident about this. Redoing old quests once makes this more, not less, likely in the future because now Outland sticks out like a sore thumb between good quests on either side. Outland wouldn't require any geography changes like Cataclysm had (and it's significantly fewer total quests as well) so it'd be a significantly smaller project overall.
Any revamp like this that happened would probably be released alongside an expansion, like the new 1-60 came out with Cataclysm, but it wouldn't really be "reusing" it the way I assume you mean.
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