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Confused101
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Well, I'm kind of in the same boat as you. Rain of Fire numbers are way lower than I'm used to, I learned to love the Felguard's Felstorm, and I also love Hand of Gul'dan. The effects of HoG may not effect the elites or bosses, (I keep seeing 'IMMUNE' pop up) but the damage sure does and it has crit for 14k for me. I use it regularly on single targets.Randy said:
So yeah, I was getting a little above 5k dps on single targets myself. But at least I have an idea of what I can improve. I wasn't using my metamorphosis and I wasn't using our new Doomguard summon. I'm not sure what kind of boost that's going to give me, but I'm not expecting crazy numbers like what destro is pulling out. So unfortunately, I really don't have much feedback for you. I'm still learning myself.
Also, are we supposed to be using Bane of Agony or Bane of Doom on heroic bosses? Should I modify my spec to include the talents that affect Bane of Doom?
moojito
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Tried tanking Halls of lightning heroic on my druid this morning. No real problems. I was concerned the 6 second cooldown on swipe would really gimp me, but I didn't really have any threat issues. If you see a mob slipping away, switching to it and one mangle would bring it back in line. I didn't even have to use my taunt, which is probably just as well since I didn't have it on my toolbar :lol
Nothing's really changed for druid tanks, though. Just less swipe spam, and having to manually press maul instead of macroing it to everything is all. Oh, and keeping the pulverise buff on.
Nothing's really changed for druid tanks, though. Just less swipe spam, and having to manually press maul instead of macroing it to everything is all. Oh, and keeping the pulverise buff on.
funkmastergeneral
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Pfft, it's only 5000g for master flying anyway. That's chump change.
To be fair, the 310% difference is hardly noticably different than 280%.
And 4.03 is after the cataclysm actually happens, those bosses and quests will be out before it. You'll probably see new stuff opening up every week for the next month or so, and then 4.03 will drop and the world will change.
And 4.03 is after the cataclysm actually happens, those bosses and quests will be out before it. You'll probably see new stuff opening up every week for the next month or so, and then 4.03 will drop and the world will change.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
moojito said:
it allows you to go at the speed of your fastest mount for all your mounts.
funkmastergeneral
Banned
Flib said:
You can't really feel the difference? I felt gimped on my shaman after leveling my paladin up and getting crusader aura, and this is even 10% faster than that. It's quite nice.
theinfinityissue
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I wonder if they'll finally tie in the Goldshire kids to the stuff going on in Cataclysm. With the focus shifting back to Azeroth, there'd be a really cool opportunity to finally explain what was happening there. Decided to level a mage since I'm about 100% sick of grinding heroics and the new patch has completely destroyed all pugs (on my server anyway), so I poked the head in but they were despawned or walking around. One of my favorite easter eggs ever.
MagicJackBauer
Banned
What is your build?SquirrelNuckle said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That isn't the same quote I was thinking of; he's talking about the idea they've been tossing around to cause tank threat to rapidly fall if the tank doesn't hit the target. (Terrible idea, btw.)DeathNote said:
I don't really think Blizzard's design on threat is really any different than it was in Wrath; some classes still don't have anything to manage threat at all. I think they just are producing low threat at the moment.
I still don't see how Cauterize is useful in an aggro managing sense in PvE. When you actually have full on aggro from skull level mob, it's very little different than 40% additional health. Getting the heal itself isn't really any different than Ice Blocking before he hits you in the first place because he never stops hitting you.
Cauterize's best PvE usage seems like it would be ignoring things like Frost Bombs or Spores.
SquirrelNuckle said:
I need to figure out how to play Destro. I've been a lock for three years now and I have never experienced with Destro. Then again I haven't been playing my lock for half of that time. I tried once but I was posting the same DPS that I was as affliction.
Question: I haven't been playing regularly as much as I have since about 6 months ago. My GS is 5k. I'm an affliciton lock. Is 5.4k dps bad/good? Could I do any high raids? I'm trying to do ToGC and ICC before CATA.
notworksafe
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According to forum numbers, cats were buffed.
This is pretty good. It won't put cats in pre-patch numbers, but I don't think they will ever go back there.
This is pretty good. It won't put cats in pre-patch numbers, but I don't think they will ever go back there.
Confused101
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I'd like to know this too as I'm planning on messing around with Destro in the near future. Affliction wasn't doing it for me.MagicJackBauer said:
Feral rotation chart :lol
Arcane mages - jesus christ. Our mage has just done 24k dps on saurfang by spamming a single button whole fight.
Arcane mages - jesus christ. Our mage has just done 24k dps on saurfang by spamming a single button whole fight.
MagicJackBauer
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Is te rotation similar to what it was pre patch?SquirrelNuckle said:
So how exactly does the new raid lockout system work with heroic fights mixed in? My understanding is if my guild did 8 bosses in ICC last night, then I could join a pug and do the same 8 bosses and then join my guilds run Saturday night. However I remember hearing that heroic fights make it more restrictive. If my guild did heroic gunship would I still be able to join another ICC pug and join my guilds run on Saturday? Would I also be able to do a heroic gunship in my pug?
I just witnessed a DK basically solo the entirety of heroic Utgarde Pinnacle... I couldn't hold aggro to save my life, he'd be at 150k threat after I've hit like 3 buttons, I just couldn't keep up :lol We must've finished the instance in like 8 minutes, nobody could believe it. 10k dps overall, steady throughout the run :/
notworksafe
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I love reforging so much. My Ret set was seriously garbage...I had such a weird mix of old and new gear that I had 12% hit and 45 Expt (seriously). I reforged all my extra hit/expt to crit and mastery and now I'm doing like 7k DPS. Not great...but in t8/t9 mixed it's not terrible.
More like, that is an incredibly intelligent solution to making it so people don't crowd onto NPCs with their mammoths. Podiums and stands work too, but half the time you can still jump onto them.Evlar said:
Of course, hilarity will probably ensue if they gave it to all NPCs (e.g. city guards, LOL) so I guess they are going to reserve this to maybe just quest NPCs or during world events please.
CassSept said:Feral rotation chart :lol
Arcane mages - jesus christ. Our mage has just done 24k dps on saurfang by spamming a single button whole fight.
I can't believe that it's so complicated. I like the challenge of having a nice rotation and such but that's ridiculous.
It's not ridiculously hard, it's just that the table has alot of space used asking if you have energy. I guess if you really want to be anal about it, yes, that would be the best flow chart, but it's simple (relatively) to just get the basic ideas of it. This chart is complicated for the sake of being complicated if you haven't gotten the basics down, like how to stack CDs or knowing when the refresh your buffs or SR.Aurarian said:
Example: why does it ask you if Tiger's Fury is up and why it even bothers to ask if you have < 40 Energy? (it might even be old cause TF now also increases your max energy) Why does it even bother to ask you if you have SR up if you have combo points?
From my short time playing feral, the rotation is roughly a priority: always keep SR up, 5-point rip is must, mangle if needed, shred for combo points, keep rake up, only really FB if you need to when you have the spare time (the major glyph helps not waste energy).
TurtleSnatcher
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So if MP5 is no longer valid.. what makes the MP5 stuff on the gear we own now?
I found gear drops last night with the modifier and I'm a bit confused.
Can anyone clue me in?
I found gear drops last night with the modifier and I'm a bit confused.
Can anyone clue me in?
Sax Russel
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mclem said:
NEVER FORGET these amazing SW keep textures
And while we're at it
notworksafe
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Sooooo...I made a Druid. Name will make more sense when I'm Moonkin, but I'm still quite pleased.
...also I'm a male Tauren.
...also I'm a male Tauren.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Howling Blast x infinite.vilmer_ said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lolnotworksafe said:Sooooo...I made a Druid. Name will make more sense when I'm Moonkin, but I'm still quite pleased.
notworksafe
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Also Cat Form is at 8 now! I quit my last Druid at 15 because I got so bored with lame bear. Heck, even Balance is totally viable to level now. The new changes are really cool.
The other thing I noticed is that mob names only appear to you if they are part of a quest, otherwise they don't have names (if they are turned off). Same for trainers. You only see the name of your class trainer. Little touches like that are really cool.
Beginner tooltips are neat too. I turned them on for Druid to see what it was like, and they are helpful. Lets you know what situations to use different abilities.
EDIT: Mangle is also beyond amazing at low level. I 1-2 shot everything.
The other thing I noticed is that mob names only appear to you if they are part of a quest, otherwise they don't have names (if they are turned off). Same for trainers. You only see the name of your class trainer. Little touches like that are really cool.
Beginner tooltips are neat too. I turned them on for Druid to see what it was like, and they are helpful. Lets you know what situations to use different abilities.
EDIT: Mangle is also beyond amazing at low level. I 1-2 shot everything.
Outdoor Miner
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CassSept said:Arcane mages - jesus christ. Our mage has just done 24k dps on saurfang by spamming a single button whole fight.
I'm hoping everyone continues focusing on how awesome/fun/great Fire is to keep attention away from the ridiculous damage Arcane Blast does now.
Shhhhh..... :lol
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You can turn quest mob names only off. I have names on for everyone at all times, just because I'm used to it that way.notworksafe said:
Ironically, Fire is roughly identical to pre-patch Fire. Why did everyone notice Hot Streak is fun NOW? Oh wait, because prepatch it did the same damage as easy-ass Arcane, but now it does more DPS so it's more worth looking at.Outdoor Miner said:
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