Elemental shaman is really bad at PVP now, resto shaman isn't bad actually, it's just NOT AS GOOD
Druid is op because healer can do insane burst too. Paladin being Paladin.... Priest is the only healer that's really having problem now I believe...
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Elemental shaman is really bad at PVP now, resto shaman isn't bad actually, it's just NOT AS GOOD
Druid is op because healer can do insane burst too. Paladin being Paladin.... Priest is the only healer that's really having problem now I believe...
You just saved me so much time :lol thanks!
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Ewww crit.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Jesus Christ, STOP GIVING US EPIC RINGS!!!Did someone say.. epic rings?
Also, frikkin' EU being early with everything
They're that common. I have 7.
Gentleman Jack
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Did someone say.. epic rings?
Oh that starts tonight? I need a ring.
Good news: we had enough to do 25-man Mogu'shan Vaults!
Bad news: Politics. Halfway through the first hour one of the healers got a bit ranty about people failing to avoid damage. One of the DPS then got ranty about the fact that they were fed up with some players always putting other players down. Then a couple of healers left.
Good news: After a bit of negotiation and stalling for time in LFR, everyone regrouped and we ultimately downed Stone Guard. It's nice to hand out six upgrades to people!
(My stance on the middle bit: The DPS could indeed be better at avoiding damage. However, I think the complaining healers hadn't taken into account the fact that petrify acts as a stacking slow, making it increasingly challenging to avoid such obstacles, and many of the DPS had never actually downed the fight before outside of LFR, where it's *vastly* simpler. As I've been saying a lot lately, the fights in this expansion are very much awareness fights, and your DPS rises significantly simply through the movements required becoming second-nature)
Bestest news: One horseman kill, one sword to add to my collection.
Bad news: Politics. Halfway through the first hour one of the healers got a bit ranty about people failing to avoid damage. One of the DPS then got ranty about the fact that they were fed up with some players always putting other players down. Then a couple of healers left.
Good news: After a bit of negotiation and stalling for time in LFR, everyone regrouped and we ultimately downed Stone Guard. It's nice to hand out six upgrades to people!
(My stance on the middle bit: The DPS could indeed be better at avoiding damage. However, I think the complaining healers hadn't taken into account the fact that petrify acts as a stacking slow, making it increasingly challenging to avoid such obstacles, and many of the DPS had never actually downed the fight before outside of LFR, where it's *vastly* simpler. As I've been saying a lot lately, the fights in this expansion are very much awareness fights, and your DPS rises significantly simply through the movements required becoming second-nature)
Bestest news: One horseman kill, one sword to add to my collection.
Did someone say.. epic rings?
Not active on Mal'Ganis (US) at least.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Does it look any different from previous years? Because the stats are aaasssssssss.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
GM Ticket... oh JP? GMs will tell you to fuck off.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yup XD
Robin64
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Also, frikkin' EU being early with everything
Also this boss is way easier than Direbrew, though that's not saying much.
Also this boss is way easier than Direbrew, though that's not saying much.
Direbrew was "hard" because no one was geared. Not the same situation here.
Shining Sunshine
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Also this boss is way easier than Direbrew, though that's not saying much.
Direbrew was hard! People panic when barrels are thrown on their heads. Causes wipes!
Gentleman Jack
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Direwbrew has proper mechanics that the tank/healer needed to be aware of. HH just requires you to target switch.
Did someone say.. epic rings?
Awww, sweet! I sure hope I get that darn horse mount this year. Seems like everyone got one the past couple of years. I was always in CA visiting my BF around Blizzcon (which was always during Hallow's End) and didn't have time to kill Headless Horseman daily.
I've never *used* it. But I MUST OWN THEM ALL.
Speak for yourself. Seems like a great pre-raid weapon for a brewmaster. Planning on farming two of them, should finally get me to 15% expertise.
fluffydelusions
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I'm getting there gaf. Level 37 now and started yesterday late afternoon.
First time in WoW?
fluffydelusions
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No but I never had the chance to get really into sort of speak. I never did any dungeons or anything like that. I think the highest toon I leveled was 70 something. I've tried lots of other MMO's but always come back to WoW lol. I maxed out my chars in GW2 and SWTOR and then just stopped playing. GW2 was especially disappointing end game.
Trickster
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Maaaaan, this game blows. So after I wait in queue for almost 2 hours as a tank to lfr. I get into a raid and kill boss 4, 5 and 6. Use coins on all 3, and get nothing...
At least the last fight was a lot of fun. Tanking one of the two boss dudes, having to evade those attacks, and being rewarded with an opportunistic strike if you avoid all of them is super fun.
At least the last fight was a lot of fun. Tanking one of the two boss dudes, having to evade those attacks, and being rewarded with an opportunistic strike if you avoid all of them is super fun.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I really don't wanna pour salt into the wounds but everytime I hear/read about someone using coins for LFR, I cringe ._. Even if you don't raid, you could at least be using them on Sha/Galleon/first couple of bosses as a PUG.
Sha, sure
Galleon, LOL?
First couple of bosses as a PUG? Not everyone is on malganis with a huge population and experienced raiders with alts. With the raid this new PUGS aren't gonna be successful mostly, I would not want to bang my head with a pug for 3 hours at this point.
Most people will use coins in LFR, why not?
The chances of casual players (who do not do normal/heroic raids) getting in on a Galleon kill is approximately 0. Even if you used a coin every week on Sha, you'd still have 2 spare. No use saving them if you don't plan to do content beyond LFR.
Trickster
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Right now I'm just doing LFR. My klaxxi and golden lotus dailys, getting coins, rep and valor. As well as trying to get my last two item slots filled with heroic dungeon items.
After that I'll probably try and get into a raiding guild of some sort.
But I simply don't do outdoor bosses. It feels like the biggest waste of time ever. Your galleon self torture incident being a premiere example of why.
And I hate doing pug raids. If I have to sit in the real raids and wipe. I need it to be with a group of people I'm familiar with.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Trickster, what's the population of your server? Galleon might not be hard to camp.
Just sayin'. It's free loot, basically.
No one wipes on 1-4/6-bosses
Just sayin'. It's free loot, basically.Trickster, what's the population of your server? Galleon might not be hard to camp.
No one wipes on 1-4/6-bosses
There's never people at the galleon pop when i go check on my server, does not mean i want to wait hours and hours while waiting for it to pop
No one wipes on anything but Elegon in normal? I am not even sure if that's elitist talk anymore, because you obviously haven't downed Elegon
fluffydelusions
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Working as intended.
Well GW2 felt like a zerg fest and SWTOR felt like a poor WoW clone running on a terrible engine.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Who's top of the PVP chain for damage? Warriors?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I'm speaking from experience, I've been a pug in groups that just started raiding and they go 4/6 with barely any wipes, and in less than 2-3 hours.
Elegon is also the fifth boss, so I have no idea wtf you're talking about :lol I clearly said 4/6 is almost wipe-free.
SuperAndroid17
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Trickster, what's the population of your server? Galleon might not be hard to camp.
No one wipes on 1-4/6-bosses
Stop talking in absolutes please
Galleon is stupid to camp
While I agree first four bosses are very easy if you have 10 like minded people who are about the same skill level that can over come them. I don't think you realize the absolute truth about wow.
THE GAME IS NOT FUCKING HARD
finding competent people is.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yeah, I've been lucky throughout this expansion, as-well as in Cata and Wrath.
Heck, from personal experience I've noticed that pugging seems to result in more progress than my actual guild :lol then again, that's not saying much, since I've always been in terrible, terrible guilds (outside of vanilla/TBC).
edit: I still find it hard to believe that people actually spend days wiping on 0-4 bosses though. I just don't "get" that.
You probably missed a very important fact I listed a few post above.
YOUR SERVER
That's the only reason why, high end PVE server bring what?
High end PVE'er with alts
which translates to
you running with them (likely)
People can spend so many hours wiping on LFR, what's hard to believe? I've queued for 3 hour straight last night trying to do a clean LFR, I couldn't get one, always 2/6... until we said fuck it, gathered 6 healer in guild and a bunch dps to queue together to force a clean one.
I am a pretty good PVE'er, When I was hardcore, I downed sunwell before nerf. When WOTLK rolled around, we got server first and finished all the raids including 3drake sarth fairly quickly, people got bored and guild broke apart, I quit until Cata came, we got normal nef before any nerf also.
Now I am casual, I won't be downing most bosses, does it mean I got bad? No, it simply means I can't give time commitment. I have looked into transfering to some where like Malganis where there are top PVE talent that I can just pug with when I do have time, but all my friends are still playing where I am currently on. It's really a trade off.
Trickster
Member
Trickster, what's the population of your server? Galleon might not be hard to camp.
No one wipes on 1-4/6-bosses
I think eu ravencrest is one of the most populated eu realms. Even if it weren't though. trying to get a boss like galloen, that has as long a respawn timer as it does, that also varies by days. It'd be a nightmare to try and kill him. Again, you should know
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I don't even get what Lucis is trying to say (he seems angry, it scares me). I haven't been on Mal'Ganis this whole time, and I've still downed bosses left and right as a pug. If anything, it's higher chance you'll be getting into a "bad" group on MG because everyone and their moms play on this server.
Is that what you're basically trying to say? It's the server?
Is that what you're basically trying to say? It's the server?
A lot of it, is server, people build reputation for pug.
Also when time goes on, those bosses will be downed by PUG a lot easier also. I remember when I came back to wow after quiting in 4.0 (after nef down), it was right before 4.3, the first few weeks, not PUG can be successful in it, but 2 months later? bosses go down pretty easily. Then another 2 months? Basically most PUGs can get 6/8 if not 7/8.
When the raid first comes out, PUGS do not have much success usually.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yup, I definitely get this. It's a combination of people just being undergeared + not knowing the basics of the fight.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Now I feel like I made a huge mistake getting an epic ring with Valor Points. At least I can get them for offspec when I run out!? Didn't know about the one at the end of Klaxxi exalted (though that's still a ways off for me.)
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