Stoneform is legit if you're a tank
More than that: Stoneform makes Iron Qon solotankable. That's a pretty huge strategic advantage.
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More than that: Stoneform makes Iron Qon solotankable. That's a pretty huge strategic advantage.
Most raid comps will have enough tricks up their sleeves to do it without needing a dwarf tank, but it's still nice.
Oh well, at least i'm a fucking dwarf!
Exactly. Dwarves have the best racial of all. Namely the fact that they're dwarves
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Fuck me, I hate ignorant ass dps that talk during pugs or try to dictate the pace of the run by pulling. I'm the tank, you follow me. Otherwise enjoy the 20 min wait for another one. AMIRITE TANKZ.
The only place where we have to wait 20 mins for a new tank is in LFR. Heroics tend be to be fast when one leave.
Sorry, the annoying DPS win in this case.
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The only place where we have to wait 20 mins for a new tank is in LFR. Heroics tend be to be fast when one leave.
Sorry, the annoying DPS win in this case.
Nah this is just normal leveling dungeons. Annoying dps never win.
scoobs
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I agree to a certain extent. If the DPS is in full heroic gear ilvl 540+ ... who cares if he pulls, hes going to kill everything for you in a matter of seconds. Just roll with it at that point
Pretty much. I can do about 85% of the group's damage.
If it's an AoE Pull, nothing comes close to god-tier CL spam.
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I should have clarified I'm talking about leveling dungeons basically, but apparently I've riled up the dps here. Just remember, you're replaceable!
scoobs
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And so are you
you haven't riled up anything, just saying... if you're gonna kick the high ilvl guy for pulling, you're basically doubling or tripling your time spent in the dungeon. I play a DK as both tank and DPS and i can say w/o any hesitation that I would much rather have a high ilvl dps pulling and killing everything in sight than to have a bunch of terrible DPS and me having to carry the group.
Also guys I just want to say I'm finally 2/3 on warbringer mounts.... praise god I'm almost done!!!
Anyway, a DPS who can easily pull 150k-200k DPS, even if he wait after the undergeared tank before attacking, is going to pull aggro. This is happening way too often with my ilvl 516 frost mage, i can't imagine someone in heroic raid gear. I try not to be an asshole DPS and wait after the tank no matter what, but i kinda feel bad when i pull aggro so easily lol. But what else can happen when a tank does 20k DPS and i do 200k?
My guild didn't want to solo tank it so I have to deal with a warrior co-tank crying about not being able to keep threat. I'd hold back, but we need my dps (I'm a monk).
I dunno, I generally non-stop chain pull on my tanks and don't really mind what the dps do.
This happened when my Guardian just hit 90. Not the dps's fault so I just had to deal with it until I got some decent gear. You're better off just nuking everything and making the dungeon go fast.
Nah. A leveling dps decked out in heirlooms with any sort of heal can tank in a pinch. My ret pally has seen the odd instance where the tank instantly drops group upon zoning in, and at that point I just turn on righteous fury and go to town until the queue finds someone else. Another time I ran across a prot warrior who kept pulling entire rooms at once, but who had no idea how to hold aoe threat, so I kept busy melting anything that went after the healer.
Tanks and healers are only important if survivability is an issue, and in lowbie content, it's not.
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All your dps tears fill my rage meter.
(I'm doing my best to emulate the wow gen boards feel here)
(I'm doing my best to emulate the wow gen boards feel here)
All this tank talk reminds me of why I generally hate healing these days. I'd rather see bad tanks die than to prop up their poor play/decision making with my mana pool.
IMHO, the ideal tank is someone who recognizes the pace of the group, (a group with an average ilevel of 500 will far outperform one that's in the 460 range) and can pull just fast enough to keep things interesting without slowing it down to the point where everybody is off making sandwiches in between pulls.
Pandaria dungeons have taught tanks to not give a shit about the fundamentals and just do whatever they feel like, then blame the healer for not keeping them alive when half the dungeon is beating on him at once, or blame the dps for not keeping up.
IMHO, the ideal tank is someone who recognizes the pace of the group, (a group with an average ilevel of 500 will far outperform one that's in the 460 range) and can pull just fast enough to keep things interesting without slowing it down to the point where everybody is off making sandwiches in between pulls.
Pandaria dungeons have taught tanks to not give a shit about the fundamentals and just do whatever they feel like, then blame the healer for not keeping them alive when half the dungeon is beating on him at once, or blame the dps for not keeping up.
lol No idea but this will definitely be me when they reveal the next expansion:What do you guys make of this?
http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/showpost.php?p=911036&postcount=51 said:
Sax Russel
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Was hoping for 3 Runestones to finish off my DK's cloak and be DONE with ToT on both my characters... ended up with 1 =P... oh well, next week for sure! >_>;
Then on the other end of the spectrum.. I'm a Guardian in 535 gear and I will run heroics for easy valor. Scholomance had me laughing so hard. I just train-wreck my way from boss to boss thrashing everything, then cat-tank the boss with HotW up.
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Do the pvp dailies on the isle of thunder. It's something like 800 honor a day, and current honor gear is 476.
Anyone know any 1H weapons that match well with the DK T15N?
Or should I just not even bother trying and go farm a different armor set to transmog into?
Edit: The bigger and meaner-looking the weapons, the better
Anyone? D: I want to be pretty!
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J-Roderton
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Started a sub rogue and got them just about to 20. If I spec in PVP will that really have much of an impact while playing through dungeons? Not much of a raider.
Get a 2 hander (dps is better, plus u can go unholy) and get the ahkandi from BWL.
I have two heroic 1Hers so unless I get lucky with a drop (we're 3/12H ATM - Jin'Rokh, Horridon, Ji-Kun - none of which drop 2Hers aside from the shared loot ones) that's gonna be a while
While you're leveling up it doesn't really matter what you spec.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=72866
You won't look pretty, you'll look like the monster you are, Death Knight!
Today has been my lucky day so far. Got my 522 version T15 gloves off of nalak (replacing my LFR version), A nice ring off of oondasta, and a Primal Egg while we were sitting around killing dinos waiting for oon to spawn
Heres hoping it holds out in ToT tonight hahaha
Heres hoping it holds out in ToT tonight hahaha
What about the 1h axes from BWL? Both of them have red on them (not the same shade as your armor unfortunately) and both of them have more weird horn/teeth to go with all your other teeth and shit.
Those are about the only things I can think of that even remotely "match" the set, including swords and maces.
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I think my suggestion is "/console screenshotQuality 10" before you try to take a transmog screenshot
Yeah my computer is terrible. I'll try to maybe get a better shot or might just go back to dragon stalker until I find something I really like.
Fuck the asshole who decided to put pvp into the legendary quest chain. My battlegroup apparently only wins AV alliance side. I am going to be grinding these battlegrounds non stop for a week just to get my wins for the quest judging by how this has been going so far.
Do healers get that bag from heroics? More incentive for me to level my priest if so for those mounts!
They rarely do, its mostly tanks. From what i've seen on my holy paladin anyway.
Aw, bummer.
Damn, only one Runestone this week.
Used up all my luck last week, I guess.
Only when it pops up. I saw the bag listed for them the other day.
Go through this:
http://www.icy-veins.com/transmogrification-death-knight-plate-item-models-guide-wow#sec-10
Shellsplitter Greataxe (Heroic) would probably be a really good match, but you have to be doing Heroic content to get that.
Used up all my luck last week, I guess.
Only when it pops up. I saw the bag listed for them the other day.
Anyone know any 1H weapons that match well with the DK T15N?
Or should I just not even bother trying and go farm a different armor set to transmog into?
Edit: The bigger and meaner-looking the weapons, the better
Go through this:
http://www.icy-veins.com/transmogrification-death-knight-plate-item-models-guide-wow#sec-10
Shellsplitter Greataxe (Heroic) would probably be a really good match, but you have to be doing Heroic content to get that.
Damn, only one Runestone this week.
Used up all my luck last week, I guess.
Only when it pops up. I saw the bag listed for them the other day.
Go through this:
http://www.icy-veins.com/transmogrification-death-knight-plate-item-models-guide-wow#sec-10
Shellsplitter Greataxe (Heroic) would probably be a really good match, but you have to be doing Heroic content to get that.
I've looked through all kinds of lists but never found a *perfect* match. That is pretty good though. We're 3/12 Heroic, I think Tortos will be the fifth one we work on. Kinda hoping to get a Heroic 2Her off Council (next one we're working on) and go Unholy, though.
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Soooo...Hexos.
Yeah.
Got from the first fight to Rank 8 in one sitting. Hexos is where I call it a night
It's also 4AM, so that doesn't help, haha.I love playing with my ret paladin, but it seems that my DPS is only good at the start of combat when i have all my cooldowns available, where i can easily hit around 120-130k DPS, but later during the fight, it goes down to 78-80k. Where, in the other hand, my frost mage's DPS stay mostly the same.
That haste buff from Time Warp/Hero is what makes most of the difference i think, Ret paladin DPS depends a lot on that, am i right?
That haste buff from Time Warp/Hero is what makes most of the difference i think, Ret paladin DPS depends a lot on that, am i right?
Y'know, if you were solotanking it, your DPS wouldn't be as necessary
I sort of both do and don't. I'll speed through the trash, but I'll wait for a ready check before the boss. No harm in waiting a few moments for someone to catch up. Some DPS are a bit... proactive even then.
That's LFR, of course. Normals, things go at my pace, there is no negotiation on that
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That's 12 US$ right? Haha, no way i'll buy ONE HELM for that price. But the worst part is that it's still gonna be popular because so many WoW players don't mind paying for overpriced cosmetic stuff on top of their monthly sub as we've seen in the past.
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Having just come back I hadn't really explored the real money shop, but I assumed it was like dlc for games, ya know, .99 or maybe $5 for the big stuff. Mounts are fuckin $25. They're the price of a game. And people buy them. Morons. Utter morons. It's none of my business what you do with your money blah blah you're a moron. But a moron on a cool mount. :3
Robin64
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I had no problem with the high price of some things when they money was going to charity. But now, yeah.. way too much.
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My sparkle pony was pretty cool back when I believed I'd never get a cool looking mount. Fast forward and I have Ashes, Onyxia, etc.
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RPGCrazied
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$15 for a transmog helm? Wow, that is just so wrong.
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