Heh, it's only 10man normal for us
...which means I'll just gaze blankly at this statement.
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Heh, it's only 10man normal for us
...which means I'll just gaze blankly at this statement.
Well, nothing from neither Oondasta or Nalak this week. Means that I have nothing to upgrade, nothing to buy, nothing to spend valor on. Eh.
At least I still have heroic scenarios to farm because the game is trolling me and drops every single possible piece except for the 2 I want. Hell, I got three weapons for combat yet I still have to see a dagger from there. Ridiculous.
Btw, I topped out at 524 equipped and 527 overall without raiding and that is very near to what I believe is the maximum as far as gearing up without raiding goes. Pushing to 528 is definitely manageable, I guess you can go all up to 530 but you'd be pretty pressed to go any further.
At least I still have heroic scenarios to farm because the game is trolling me and drops every single possible piece except for the 2 I want. Hell, I got three weapons for combat yet I still have to see a dagger from there. Ridiculous.
Btw, I topped out at 524 equipped and 527 overall without raiding and that is very near to what I believe is the maximum as far as gearing up without raiding goes. Pushing to 528 is definitely manageable, I guess you can go all up to 530 but you'd be pretty pressed to go any further.
Diseased Yak
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I was wondering how far I'd make it, and figured some where in the 520-ish range. I can't find a raiding guild on my shit server to save my life so I'm just going to have to wait for the virtual realm stuff and hope it affords me raiding opportunity.
I've still got a ways to go, though. Will be another couple of months of spending valor and LFR'ing before I top out.
The times we live in; Soloing raid instances and say "I wiped"
I hate that trinket. After finally getting it the first time, it dropped twice in a row for the next 2 weeks w/o bonus rolls lol. Still waiting for a Renataki's though, since it's a slight upgrade.
Sax Russel
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My luck this week is shit. I ran the Zandalari wing of LFR today four times for the Bad Juju trinket on Council. That was painful due to all the thrash which are really boring to fight. Used all my bonus loot on the Council and nope it didn't dropped. Decided to run Pinnacle for the resto trinket on Leishen and also nada. Killed both Nalak and Galleon and again nothing. So, between 6 LFR bosses, two world bosses, and 3 bonus rolls all I got were gold gold gold. God damn. Not even one item I didn't want dropped from them
If it makes you feel better I've killed Iron Qon 37 times on my warlock, using a roll each time, and haven't seen the shoulders token. But of the three pieces of loot he can drop me I've seen 5 and 8 of the other two items. I also had a streak of 17 bonus rolls (post bonus roll bad luck protection) used just on him that gave me nothing.
My DK on the other hand, who just killed him once per week, has seen at least 3 shoulder tokens without even using rolls. Good ol RNG.
My favorites (post cata I think) are two sound loops that I think is for the Iron Dwarves and BRM. You can also hear them at Dwarf excavation sites. They're so good, when I first heard them while soloing MC I almost got tears in my eyes... I was like this should be in a movie..
Orochinagis
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Now only the final bosses in LFR gives you valor?
Not I am complaining, I only need 1 more item from Shadopan assault but usually I get the buff in one day and go leveling up my tank.
Not I am complaining, I only need 1 more item from Shadopan assault but usually I get the buff in one day and go leveling up my tank.
Depending on the spec, it's more than a slight upgrade. My Druid has a heroic Renataki's and it's a freaking monster. I have 45,000 Agility when everything lines up.
I don't think that's anything new, is it? You get the valor for 'completing the instance', don't you?
It always been like that. But i think that since 5.3, some mini bosses can give like 10 VP or something. Funny how they give VP, but not the actual bosses.
My bad. I read your post wrong. I thought you meant that because of the new ingots the price for Living Steel would rise.
Orochinagis
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Some mobs gave you valor points and completely cap the week doing only instances in one day.
They were definitely designed with active mitigation in mind and it shows. Brewmaster is a fantastic spec and I love it. My raid complains that I beat them in dps on single target fights like Durumu lol.
Bears need a revamp honestly, their main active mitigation is... dodge. Well what happens when you get unlucky and don't dodge? Like Sha of Fear's Dread Thrash, no dodges = splat. Savage Defense should be a physical absorb like it used to be, but maybe that would make Bears too similar to Blood DKs, I dunno.
25 man raiding is still dwindling, but it still exists if you are willing to xfer to the right realm.
Illidan or Mal'Ganis for Horde (PvP)
Area 52 for Horde (PvE)
Tichondrius or Kel' Thuzad? for Alli (PvP)
Stormrage? for Alli (PvE)
I beat my DPS on Durumu as a bear too. Don't act like you're special.
Remember when you got kicked from the raid if you did less damage than the tank? Yeah, those days are gone. Vengeance is a nice mechanic, since it lets you do good damage when you're tanking without making it always the default spec for questing as well. (Though both BrM's and Guardians solo decently.) It is a bit much when you get a lot of mobs though, which is why they're adding diminishing returns in 5.4. The days of solo tanking Tortos + bats and doing 350k DPS are numbered.The thing about bears is we have double the armor of plate tanks at equal item level, because of our bear form multiplier plus our Mastery. 70-75% physical damage reduction from armor goes a long way towards making RNG matter less.
It's funny how every MMO I played where they had different types of mitigation (Healing, Absorb, Damage Reduction and Dodge) Dodge was always, ALWAYS waaay below everything else, because it's a stupidly binary stat that doesn't do shit. Having 99% dodge means you'll get hit 1% of the time (and most likely get squished like crazy). Having 99% reduction means you'll never die.
City of Heroes had this massive problem. Dodge tanks were horrible - you could cap dodge at 95% and still those tanks had big problems because hits still got through and caused a ton of damage - when RNG is against you, you can get 2 hits in and die. If you're a resist tank, since you were also capped at 95%, you would resist all damage, and could essentially survive everything. Absorb is also godly in most situations, but damage resistance is so much better than everything else that it makes stuff like Dodge completely useless.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Ninja tank in FFXI is godlike!!
PLD/NIN w/ haste gear and double haste buffs from a Bard was the most fun I've ever had tanking in an MMORPG.
I'll add my server (Sargeras) for Alli PvP as well.
I'm probably in some small minority but I just don't like this more recent drive to get people to log in every day. Probably even if what this magical content was turned out to be actually fun, it's going to be tied to progression, so it's going to be dragged out, so then it becomes less fun and this system where you punish people for wanting to do something else that's not WoW, which inadvertently makes people not want to play WoW if they constantly feel like they're falling behind.
What was so wrong with banging 7 heroics out on a Saturday for full VP and doing whatever else I wanted during the week, be it WoW related or not?
Diminishing returns, yea that makes it less practical to solo tank lots of mobs, won't affect solo tanking Durumu/Iron Qon though. Bear dps is a little below Monks, but still very solid. Yay Crit stacking.I beat my DPS on Durumu as a bear too. Don't act like you're special.
The thing about bears is we have double the armor of plate tanks at equal item level, because of our bear form multiplier plus our Mastery. 70-75% physical damage reduction from armor goes a long way towards making RNG matter less.
I understand staying tank spec for questing, but personally I prefer going windwalker or feral when I quest. Lots of mobs leash so it can be hard for me to get enough bunched up to justify tank spec.
I agree that Bear's higher armor partially makes up for the random nature of the spec, but what about boss abilities that pierce armor (talon rake)? Design flaws, yeah. Until they redesign Bears they are just good offtanks IMO, go well with a Pally MT.
I'll go with the group again if I had fun
Fun > efficiency for me a lot of the time.
I'll go with the group again if I had fun
Fun > efficiency for me a lot of the time.
Yeah, but the only fun i have in heroics is doing 150k DPS while the other people are only doing 50k or even less. Makes me feels like a god. Of course, i keep it for myself and don't brag about it. ;p
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I couldn't play wow anymore if I didn't trash talk/brag in bgs, instances, trade chat, whatever. Just yesterday I was in a pug heroic tanking and some shammy was doing abysmal dps. I called him out on it and he got smart, so I convinced the rest of the group to wait for 7 more mins till we could kick him. We did just that. That's what makes wow fun for me. Dem salty QQ tears.
Heroics are such a joke, especially if you have one overgeared DPS in your group, do you really care that much if a DPS in greens/blues is doing low DPS? Or do you really love to ruin the enjoyment of the game for others, no matter the reason? Or by "abysmal", do you mean something like 10k?
I could understand waiting and kicking someone if his low DPS makes a heroic more difficult, almost impossible to complete, but that's not the case with MoP.
Anoregon
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I'm kind of the opposite, I usually don't mind popping recount to see I'm like 60% of total group damage. I'll carry scrubs all day long, as long as they aren't actually making things harder.
I'm an expert
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It was 10k. Just one of those lazy people who sometimes threw a chain lightning (on a single mob) and was there for the carry. I never stay quiet with that shit, even if my other dps are 530 lol. I've probably kicked like 20+ people so far and I've only been back for 4 weeks. And I'm like 20/20..my votes never fail. I'm kind of a pro at weeding out terribads.
I'm the guild leader/raid leader/bg leader kinda guy so it's natural to me. Also top of the charts kinda guy so being a dick is also natural to me.
I don't care about the numbers, but we had a Rogue AFK through Heart of Fear while I was tanking. Someone called him out on it, and he immediately ninja pulled. I didn't get threat, just asked the raid to wipe it so we could boot him. They did and he was gone. Sometimes the repair bills are worth it just so you're not carrying a fuckbag.
I have no clue how to heal. I want to, but i don't know high level healing techniques other people use so I'm already shit by default.
unknownstranger
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Was in by far the best last part of ToT LFR I've been in last night. Killed the first twin before the second even spawned. Had 11 dps over 100k dps on the fight (I was 5th at 138k). Lei Shen went smoothly and there was 0 deaths in the whole run.
Sounds like the guild LFR I ran last night. We comprised about half the raid, and it was the fastest/smoothest ToT 3 & 4 I've ever done.
Orochinagis
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So I gave a try to the heal spec in my paladin, forgot I dont have any gear for heal but enter a dungeon anyway with my tank spec, best healer ever.
I ran into that once, where the majority of the raid was decked out in heroic thunderforged gear. Cleared Pinnacle of Storms in under twenty minutes.
I'm more surprised that bosses are dropping BOA weapons.
If I know I won't be able to do 7 heroic scenarios in a week I sometimes do normal scenarios for some quick valor infusion to help me cap. However, normal scenarios are no longer place for good players and are populated by fresh 90s.
You would not believe the dps they do. It's beneath abysmal. I once had an absolutely terrible group in Brewmoon Festival. I always assume that others will go for the vermin first so I jump straight to saurok to stealth past trash and quickly dispatch him. I've done just that, he is at about 10%, I look behind and I see them swimming dazed with every single mob on them.
I move on, to water elemental. I'm nearly killing it when they catch up. And lo and behold, they put pet to tank the boss, it gets the shield and I have to wait 15 seconds for it to run out because it's hard to disable pet taunts.
That item to help you? Derpa Derpa. And they put all the traps they can right in the middle of the village.
And all through this, hunter was doing steady 15k dps while warlock trudged along with 10k dps. Horrific. It took forever to complete even if I was nearly soloing it.
Hell, I sometimes solo some of the scenarios (Crypt of the Forgotten Kings! It must be weird to them when they are killing these vortexes and suddenly bam, scenario completed gl hf bb) and it proves to be quicker than waiting for them to catch up and more fun.
Probably just an accidental flag for PTR, but it'd be kind of neat.
scoobs
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Sometimes, when im healing with my Holy Paladin, i like to throw my Light's Hammer on a big group for AOE healing and some damage.
Sometimes, that hammer alone is doing more DPS than one of the DPS players.
There are exponentially more bad DPS than good DPS. its like 10-1.
unknownstranger
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3 Titan Runestones my first week on the quest, not bad.
I ran some dungeon the other day, ended up #2 on the DPS charts. And by a pretty wide margin, too.. the #3 guy was waaay back.
I was the tank.
(would have been funnier if I was the healer, but oh well)
Sax Russel
Banned
The random heroic I did today on my DK. Total damage for the instance was
Me - 106.35m
Tank - 39.21m
DPS - 20.76m
DPS - 13.85m
Healer - 7.29m
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