They always have a hands on demo at Blizzcon though. I'm assuming it's just a build for random people to experience.
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They always have a hands on demo at Blizzcon though. I'm assuming it's just a build for random people to experience.
cartoon_soldier
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I would be very sleepy by now if I was at Blizzcon
Q: Will you be making any changes to what Stats are available?
One of our goals for Warlords of Draenor is to make the act of finding and collecting loot even more exciting for players. With that in mind, were adding some fun new stats to gear, such as Movement Speed and Cleave, which gives you a chance to do extra damage or healing to additional nearby targets. In addition, well be retiring a few stats that players dont find very enjoyable to manage, such as Hit and Expertise. Were also making improvements to armor itemization that will make it easier to share armor pieces across classes. Well have more details to share as development continues.
One of our goals for Warlords of Draenor is to make the act of finding and collecting loot even more exciting for players. With that in mind, were adding some fun new stats to gear, such as Movement Speed and Cleave, which gives you a chance to do extra damage or healing to additional nearby targets. In addition, well be retiring a few stats that players dont find very enjoyable to manage, such as Hit and Expertise. Were also making improvements to armor itemization that will make it easier to share armor pieces across classes. Well have more details to share as development continues.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think Blizzard has finally lost me. No new class, no new race, updates to models that have no real game impact; moreover, the trailer showed me basically nothing about what the game is like.
cartoon_soldier
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That is what is so annoying to me. We had the perfect build up in MoP, then Blizzard got lazy. Or more likely, wants to sell more movie tickets.
Yeah, I'm going to laugh if the movie is during this time.
WoW really doesn't need another class right now. I think new models for the old races would have more of an impact for most players then a new race and the teams that would make a new race are a lot of the same people who would be working on new models/animations. Also it is abit silly to expect everything to be given away at the announcement.
Now to decide on which class I will give the gift of 90 to.
Those are all famous Orc clan leaders. The warlock-y guy on the far left is Gul'dan. Grommash is holding the big axe in the middle (Gorehowl?), The wolf guy next to him is Durotan (Thra''lls daddy). Not sure on the others.
Those are all famous Orc clan leaders. The warlock-y guy on the far left is Gul'dan. Grommash is holding the big axe in the middle (Gorehowl?), The wolf guy next to him is Durotan (Thra''lls daddy). Not sure on the others.
From left to right: Kargath, Blackhand, Kilrogg, Durotan, Grom, Ner'zhul, and Gul'dan.
Considering Blizzard probably have expansions planned for another 10 years, do you seriously expect every one of them to have a new class or race? At one point, they're going to run out of options, or are going to make balancing them all a nightmare.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It absolutely does need a new class. The point of expansions is to add stuff that makes you want to play the whole game, not just hit up the 10 levels and bounce your account.
Everything we've heard screams "low content." Only 6 dungeons + 2 rehash dungeons, scenarios (which have been 100% re-used assets so far), no new class, no new race. You can see the writing on the wall for why they added in "skip to 90." Its because there's no incentive to re-roll at all; they're just letting you get past it to incentivize buying the expansion. But I don't think that strategy is a good one long term; its just going to lead to people saying "well what do I do now" that much faster.
Yes. I'm not sure I agree that balancing the 11 they have now has been as much of a chore as people claim. That's what open test realms and hotfixes are for.
:lol sometimes I forget that I can just read up on all of this. Thanks.
Is it a bummer that there's no new Race, Class, or Profession? Sure. That said, I don't think it's realistic to expect them to add one of those for every expansion, I mean, we're already at the point where they're really stretching to add new playable races. A new class would probably be more likely at this point, but I'm assuming they have a good reason for not including one this time around.
Of what is coming in this expansion, I think it looks really promising.
Also, thank fuck for the stat-squish.
Of what is coming in this expansion, I think it looks really promising.
Also, thank fuck for the stat-squish.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The reason I tend not to agree is that people keep acting like Blizzard puts expansions out on the time schedule they aspire to, as opposed to the time schedule they actually keep. 2 years is a long time.
And seriously, the new models are nice, but they certainly don't look like the product of 5 years of work on them.
cartoon_soldier
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They think people are silent because it is a lot of information...
Orochinagis
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So this expansion will be like a filler expansion before the real expansion?
Also I hope there will be blood elf house for the garrison
Also I hope there will be blood elf house for the garrison
What is a "filler" expansion?
Expansion that doesn't move the story forward. It's really hard to move a story forward in an expansion revolving around the past and setting it right.
Angry Grimace
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At the very least they could have just given Alliance Blood Elf models as High Elves and Dark Iron Dwarves that don't recognize Moira as their leader to the Horde so you'd have more options on your current faction. It wouldn't even require any work.
Doesn't sound like filler at all. Wish people would stop saying that shit.
No kidding.
How is it not? Seriously asking. Unless there's some twist that we're not going back to set the timeline straight...
SuperAndroid17
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Followers? So they're copying swtor's companion system?
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Yeah, I don't really get that moniker for this at all based on what they're saying, but to each their own...
Move the story in relation to what? I'm not trying to be smarmy but I just don't understand. There's no Warcraft 4 or anything for WoW to mirror anymore since they "wrapped up" Arthas and stuff. People have mentioned MoP is filler too but both factions have changed a ton from Cataclysm storywise (hello Thermamore, hello entirely new race with lore we've never seen prior, hello new Warchief ect).
I'm not saying there won't be rehashing and stuff but I want to understand what the complaint is (assuming it is one).
MoP wasn't filler people that think it is didn't play the game. Major character progression and propelled the story towards the inevitable confrontation with the Legion, with Horde and Alliance making peace, and Wrathion's foreshadowing.
With this expansion we go back in time or to a different timeline to fix what Garrosh has caused. If it's a different timeline then shouldn't we be prepping our forces for the Burning Legion instead of wasting those resources somewhere else, and if it's fixing the past then nothing changes besides some character development... maybe depending on which lore characters travel with us.
It's also a step backward for them, with MoP they said they loved creating new story, new characters and not having to rely on past threads. Seems a step backwards. But to each his own, I'll try the expansion because MoP was so fantastic.
Oh so you're worried it will be like fixing what we already know is happening/happened instead of doing something new? I could see that being a justified complaint (as much of a fan of both Orcs and Draenei as I am).
That being said, this particular part of the WoW timeline (pre-blood-drinking Orcs/Draenei massacre) is not only a pretty damn huge deal in how it set the stage for Orcs originally coming to Azeroth, but is also a part that we have never really gotten to see in detail (especially considering what draenei were at the time the original lore was written before the current Draenei retcon thing). That alone makes it pretty exciting for me since this is seriously fleshing out both races in their own right, as well as making Garrosh maybe not as one dimensional as many (me included) originally thought.
Also, I am interested to see what the Legion will do if they miss out on a significant amount of their Draenor shock troops if Garrosh successfully prevents the blood-pact from taking place.
This is what most people are bugged by, however if we're going back to do some shit like we did with Well of Eternity. Such as bring heroes that "died" to our time then I'd be more open to the idea.
Edit: Nevermind guess there is a Lore panel later, it's just not called that.
Can't wait to see new racials (hit/expertise racials need replaced) and new talents.
I really doubt this will focus on making sure everything that has happened will still happen.
I see it more as preventing the war between Horde and Alliance, forcing the legion to make a move and we have a united Horde/Alliance army at the end.
Sure that sucks for people that see WoW as H vs A; but if Blizzard wants to head to a full on confrontation with the legion, we need a united army.
I see it more as preventing the war between Horde and Alliance, forcing the legion to make a move and we have a united Horde/Alliance army at the end.
Sure that sucks for people that see WoW as H vs A; but if Blizzard wants to head to a full on confrontation with the legion, we need a united army.
And they've said this expansion's lore is going to spill into the next expansion and lead right into it. I don't think it's out of the question that we get back to present day and actually do move the overall story forward towards the end of WoD.
Well, they did say they wanted to do Timeless Isle-type progression in the future and I think a lot of people liked it.
I enjoy the Timeless Isle for the most part (outside of some questionable loot RNG and the god-awful Emperor rep grind) so I don't think I would mind.
davepoobond
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The warlords timeline is separate from our timeline when garish went back. They are merging the points between them to our present
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