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[Angry Grimace]

Also, healers are going to hate Masochism if that ever gets to live.

A new ... defensive stance? Didn't expect that.

Warlocks continue to be favored class since Vanilla. Always get the flashier talents.

I'm confused by the talent. It replaces Defensive stance but doesn't have any of the benefits of Defensive stance.

DK talents don't seem very good right now. The Necrotic Plague one seems like a DPS loss since you would no longer have blood plague on your target and the other two talents are situational talents that are used in the same situation. I rather like the MOP-era talent system but its biggest failing is multiple talents in the same tier that are used in the same situation.

 

[Rokam]

Free 90 will be a good way to lure back people, time to start convincing people to play again. That means you Dyscord, I know you read this thread.

 

[questionmark]

Just finally catching up on all the WoD info.

Anywho, dat item squish.

That's crazy. If lvl 90 gems give 4-8 agility, how much will the low level ones give? 0.xx??

Also, healers are going to hate Masochism if that ever gets to live.

I assumed it would have a cd. That may grow old quickly.

I am curious about that talent for prot. At first it looked like an awesome dps increase ability for when you are off tanking. Then I realised it replaces def stance. I know nothing of warriors so I'm curious. If you run with dps gear and a shield, would this talent actually provide competitive dps, or is it only for soloing or content that you overgear?

 

[Anoregon]

Free 90 will be a good way to lure back people, time to start convincing people to play again. That means you Dyscord, I know you read this thread.

I currently have 3 90's, and 2 chars that are 85+. Gonna force myself to get them both to 90, that way I'll have the free 90 to get a 6th. I'm thinking something I've never managed to level past the 20's, which would be paladin or mage. With the model update I might actually be able to stand playing a Tauren/bloodelf and paladin won't be so painful.

Can't get over that fucking undead, though. Soooo good. Only wish they were able to show male troll as well.

 

[Rokam]

I'm going to miss troll form once I replace my trinket on my paladin. Their polearm animation is so good. Back to silly blue berry.

 

[RoninChaos]

Watching blizzcon makes me want to resub.My guild is playing FFXIV right now. I basically like running old shit solo or duoed. How easy is it to come back and gear up to semi current, so I can steam roll old shit? lol

 

[Fjordson]

Watching blizzcon makes me want to resub.My guild is playing FFXIV right now. I basically like running old shit solo or duoed. How easy is it to come back and gear up to semi current, so I can steam roll old shit? lol

Pretty easy. Hop in some LFR's, tool around on Timeless Isle for some 496 gear and you're mostly set.

 

[Alaskanbullworm]

Watching blizzcon makes me want to resub.My guild is playing FFXIV right now. I basically like running old shit solo or duoed. How easy is it to come back and gear up to semi current, so I can steam roll old shit? lol

Timeless Isle essentially rains purples. Very easy to get up to speed

 

[Touch]

I like the pet less hunter passive. Always wanted a ranger play style. The warlock perma doomguards and infernals is really nice. Also I really like that rogue shadow reflection ability.

 

[idlewild_]

Talent Calculator: http://www.wowhead.com/talent-wod

I see they straight up gave hunters bola shot from demon hunters in D3.

 

[Nudull]

I'm really happy about the 90 boost for WoD. It's been a while since the last time I played, but it always seem it'd take forever to catch up with everyone. Hopefully, I can pick this back up for good.

 

[Alaskanbullworm]

Really liking the music so far

Been listening to my Pandaria soundtrack for the last week or so to work getting pumped up for this reveal. Such goodness, such very goodness

 

[RoninChaos]

Timeless Isle essentially rains purples. Very easy to get up to speed

What ilvl should i be for timeless isle?

 

[ZenaxPure]

I'm excited for the garrison, I love games like that so having it inside WoW will be fun.

What ilvl should i be for timeless isle?

You can do it naked. You just run around and loot chests and get free epics.

 

[Alaskanbullworm]

What ilvl should i be for timeless isle?

Well, it shouldn't matter too much since all of the rares are faction targeted now. You just need to be level 90, be able to fly in Pandaria or catch a lift from a friend and speak to Chromie. You'll be able to transport there. This quick little guide should help.

 

[Fjordson]

Really liking the music so far

Been listening to my Pandaria soundtrack for the last week or so to work getting pumped up for this reveal. Such goodness, such very goodness

Yeah, the music is really good so far. And the new zones look great.

Already really hyped. Hopefully this isn't too deep into Q4 of next year. Maybe even get a late summer release in Q3.

 

[RoninChaos]

I'm excited for the garrison, I love games like that so having it inside WoW will be fun.



You can do it naked. You just run around and loot chests and get free epics.

You're fucking with me, right?

 

[Entropia]

I'm not really keen on the Garrison thing. Seems like another thing that's there and while is nice, seems like a bit of a time waster. Kinda like the farm. It reminds me of Simpsons Tapped Out! lol

 

[questionmark]

You're fucking with me, right?

No he isn't. Run around, loot chests, do some quests, kill some rares (tag is shared with everyone who attacks them). That's it. Free epics.

 

[unknownstranger]

Just finally catching up on all the WoD info.

Anywho, dat item squish.

About where I thought the item squish would end up at (other than the gems). People will probably end up around 70-80k hp at 100 before raid gear as I doubt it'll reach Cata levels.

 

[Dawg]

I haven't played MoP since like... 5.1.

All this Blizzcon news made me sub again, where and what should I start first? I'm probably way behind. Can I even ketchup?

 

[McNei1y]

Item squish sounds nice. It always bothered me that BC and WOTLK ruined the stat differences. I mean, I knew something was up when I was replacing T3 epics with Hellfire greens.

Someone on MMO Champ pointed out something on the map that I did not notice:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1388188-Unkown-Landmass-on-Draenor-!

It's intriguing. I want to know what that is! I'm also curious about the developers saying WoD will lay out all future expansions. We still have quite a lot we haven't touched with Emerald Dream, Old Gods, The Burning Legion, and Azshara and co. as great examples. And then that one question during the Q&A about more land mass on Azeroth also seems like there will be more future expansion locations.

Edit: Changed some things around. Changed names.

 

[questionmark]

I haven't played MoP since like... 5.1.

All this Blizzcon news made me sub again, where and what should I start first? I'm probably way behind. Can I even ketchup?

It has never been easier to catch up. Do LFR and spend some time on Timeless Isle (you should have a quest which will send you in the right direction).

 

[Cipherr]

You're fucking with me, right?

Nope Timeless Isle is a catch up spot. You will get some passable gear to get you into LFR to get slightly better gear, and from there you can run flex for slightly better gear, then on to Normal and from normal to heroic raiding.

Its made to make sure folks can return from a hiatus and get back into the game. However you will probably feel the pain of being behind on your legendary quest.

 

[Acidote]

It has never been easier to catch up. Do LFR and spend some time on Timeless Isle (you should have a quest which will send you in the right direction).

Do that but in reverse order, spend some time on Timeless Isle and gear up as much as you can, then jump onto throne of thunder lfr and siege of orgrimmar lfr afterwards.

 

[questionmark]

Do that but in reverse order, spend some time on Timeless Isle and gear up as much as you can, then jump onto throne of thunder lfr and siege of orgrimmar lfr afterwards.

5.1 gear should be enough to get into tot LFR.

 

[Skab]

Really liking the music so far

Been listening to my Pandaria soundtrack for the last week or so to work getting pumped up for this reveal. Such goodness, such very goodness

I think this may officially be my favorite log in screen music since the original.

 

[SRTtoZ]

I haven't played in months but damn I'd be lying if I said I'm not excited for new models. I'll be all over this expansion day 1. Oh and I'm happy to be rid of MoP finally...just wasn't my thing.

 

[Tacitus_]

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/279171-warlords-of-draenor-take-charge-of-your-garrison/
Man the garrisons sound fucking awesome.

 

[Vanishing Avatar]

Someone on MMO Champ pointed out something on the map that I did not notice:

It's intriguing. I want to know what that is! I'm also curious about the developers saying WoD will lay out all future expansions. We still have quite a lot we haven't touched with Emerald Dream, Old Gods, The Burning Legion, and Azshara and co. as great examples. And then that one question during the Q&A about more land mass on Azeroth also seems like there will be more future expansion locations.

I think they said in one of the panels that it's the ogre continent.

 

[mclem]

I'm confused by the talent. It replaces Defensive stance but doesn't have any of the benefits of Defensive stance.

I assume the intent is one (or both) of a attempt to:

* Make Warrior tanks more PvP-viable
* Make Warrior tanks better DPSers in a single-tank environment

...without, in either situation, requiring a spec change.

 

[mclem]

You're fucking with me, right?

If it's any consolation, they're not very *good* epics. They just act as a solution to the gating problem allowing players to get into the content where they *can* get worthwhile, well-itemised ones.

You might luck into a brilliant one, but you're more likely going to have to throw together a messy setup of lots of mediocre ones.

 

[KuroNeeko]

Dammit, Blizzcon critted me with Nostalgia and now I'm loading up WoW again. Do I actually have to buy MoP if I want to play it? Aren't they giving that shpoop away yet in hopes of getting that subscriber money?

 

[GasProblem]

Really liking the music so far

Been listening to my Pandaria soundtrack for the last week or so to work getting pumped up for this reveal. Such goodness, such very goodness

This needs to be the Bladespire Fortress music.

 

[Kenai]

Seriously, thats an insanely good talent in my eyes for Resto if it works that way.

I was a bit hyperbolic.

It *might* not end up being near as good as we think since OoC doesn't work with instants (so no free Rejuvs or Wild Growths).

 

[CassSept]

Finally had a chance to watch a trailer.

Wow, it was terrible

Edit: and one of rogue level 100 talents sounds hilariously op

 

[Tacitus_]

I assume the intent is one (or both) of a attempt to:

* Make Warrior tanks more PvP-viable
* Make Warrior tanks better DPSers in a single-tank environment

...without, in either situation, requiring a spec change.

Or to just pump up prot warrior single target damage. The two other talents were aoe damage talents.

 

[Anoregon]

Finally had a chance to watch a trailer.

Wow, it was terrible

Edit: and one of rogue level 100 talents sounds hilariously op

I wouldn't say terrible, but I certainly found it underwhelming. It wasn't until they actually got into detailing the meat of the content that I started to get hyped about it.

edit: I originally said "overwhelming" instead of "underwhelming." It was early.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Sure wish I could get those shoulders for my hunter to finish the look, but its pretty unique look for a hunter, lol

 

[CassSept]

I wouldn't say terrible, but I certainly found it overwhelming. It wasn't until they actually got into detailing the meat of the content that I started to get hyped about it.

Some of the meat is interesting (hell, I looove Outland, Nagrand is still king), but the trailer was eh. This that orcs orcs Draenor orcs oooh look a random Draenei orcs orcs orcs orcs. I know, it's Draenor but holy hell that's a lot of orcs. It certainly didn't help that the voice-over was in the thickest orciest accent ever. I had to really focus to just understand what the hell was said.

It certainly seems they were going for WotLK-like reveal trailer which is still godly and which I still know by heart but for me they failed.

 

[Measley]

A new ... defensive stance? Didn't expect that.

Warlocks continue to be favored class since Vanilla. Always get the flashier talents.

I don't know. Those Monk and Shaman talents look pretty darn flashy too.

 

[Nokterian]

Now i want those new models goddamn well gonna make a horde char later on. Don't know what class yet but boy the nerd in me is screaming because going to meet Ner'Zhul and Gul'dan are one of those things i wanted since i started playing Warcraft but this is off course before the corruption but still meeting the Lich King and the one who transformed draenor to outland.

Outland was next to Northend my favorite places and revisiting it in a different way feels exciting!

And i resubbed for 2 months now bought a gamercard. Music sounds fantastic and permanent doomguard? Gonna level my warlock to 90 asap!

 

[Dawg]

Now i want those new models goddamn well gonna make a horde char later on. Don't know what class yet but boy the nerd in me is screaming because going to meet Ner'Zhul and Gul'dan are one of those things i wanted since i started playing Warcraft but this is off course before the corruption but still meeting the Lich King and the one who transformed draenor to outland.

Outland was next to Northend my favorite places and revisiting it in a different way feels exciting!

And i resubbed for 2 months now bought a gamercard. Music sounds fantastic and permanent doomguard? Gonna level my warlock to 90 asap!

I subbed too. Man, Blizzard knows how to create hype.

 

[Data West]

I just hope Hunterless pet isn't THE spec
I refuse to not use Two handers on my DK. I refuse to not not have a pet on my hunter.

 

[Nokterian]

I subbed too. Man, Blizzard knows how to create hype.

I stopped since january, i am at a casual level now. Maby i do some raids when i have time but it will never be what it was back in 2004 to 2009 almost. But yeah someone doesn't stop playing WoW that easy.

 

[ZenaxPure]

I've already forgotten the trailer myself despite watching it yesterday, I don't think it was terrible but it really was forgettable. To be honest aesthetically I don't really like much of what they have shown so far. The orc buildings look like generic orc buildings and the draenei buildings just look fancier. When they showed frostfire ridge the first thought in my head was "We're going back to Dragonblight?" MoP has apparently spoiled me when it comes to a unique (for WoW) aesthetic, I was just expecting more without realizing it.

 

[Rösti]

Has anyone claimed World of Warcraft |OT5|?

 

[Ryan_]

So tempted to sub again

 

[Angry Grimace]

We probably actually could have a GAF guild with instant 90s in WOD if we really wanted to. We'd just need a server.

In all honesty, though, faction and realm changes being reduced by 50% in price would be straight up better for most continuing players than an instant 90. It literally costs more to faction change + realm change than the expansion does.

 

[Angry Grimace]

You're fucking with me, right?

You will die a lot, but you can get a lot of purples just killing the easy asshole turtles at the FP.