How does it actually play now that you have to stay as close to capped mana as possible? That sounds to me like a sea change compared to Cata.
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How does it actually play now that you have to stay as close to capped mana as possible? That sounds to me like a sea change compared to Cata.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Not sure. I'm still just leveling a Mage (I've had one higher, but not past 70ish.)
At my level and with heirlooms, the whole mana portion of Arcane is completely negligible since it's nigh impossible to run out of mana even on boss fights. Out in the world, mobs aren't near dense enough for this to even become a remote possibility.
The buff is nice though since it's a straight pure damage one boosting the % damage you get per stack of Arcane Charge.
Hmm. I always thought the best way to play leveling up was just to spam Arcane Blast/Missiles until you ran out of mana, then Barrage to keep the charges low and recover. Even with every heirloom you can get, I was running low on mana on long fights, then getting a lot of it back after I blew all my Arcane Charges. That was in the 30's.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Was this recently or not? It's kind of different post-Mists (I've leveled Arcane/Fire before.)
scoobs
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so true. I'm in a tight-knit 10m raiding guild right now and its the most fun i've had playing this game since vanilla
Yeah this was recent, I got all the cloth/Int looms around the time Mists launched. I've been trading off leveling a male Tauren Disc/Shadow Priest (for the lulz), a Blood Elf Destruction Warlock and an Undead Arcane Mage. It's hard for me to pick between them, they're all awesome.
I spent mine on crafting stuff for myself first, then leg enchants/gear to sell on the AH. Until there are more schematics, there isn't much reason to use them for anything but money-making.
I have two uses for my main and one possible to get for alt.
Ironpaw
Archeology crate
Golden Lotus
lol yep, it was insane how easy the LFR version is. I'm hoping i get the kill on normal tonight, we didn't spend that long on him before the reset but the mechanics are pretty simple.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Got 30 minutes of sleep after have been awake until 10AM...
Complete turn of events yesterday. From having a really great time, to suddenly becoming one of the shittier ones I've had in awhile... why must it always be like this...
Complete turn of events yesterday. From having a really great time, to suddenly becoming one of the shittier ones I've had in awhile... why must it always be like this...
You... have never experienced Pandaria? Mother of God sir, fix that!
Life.
That sucks, but I prefer 10 mans as it's easier to find 10 skilled/like-minded individuals than 25.
Evil Benius
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Yeah I have zero desire to touch 25-Mans again at this point.
Same, so much less drama in a 10 man that's tight knit, and people get shit done
Evil Benius
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Yeah I think part of it has to do with the interactions in ten mans over 25s. In 25/40s I never talked in Vent ever because I hated the thought of being that guy who tells a bad joke or talks over everyone. I was there for progression, to get my loot, and to get out.
With ten mans though I chat it up with people all the time since it is just a smaller group and things feel more laid back. Also it is just easier to get to know people better.
Given the choice I'd prefer 25-mans, but we're frustratingly short of the numbers required, even on Wednesday. Fortunately we do have enough to occasionally run 2x10, so at least most people who want to raid can get the opportunity each week.
That's the really difficult thing about the transition, I'm finding; the simple fact that you're going to end up with a lot of people waiting around for opportunities to raid while you're trying to bolster up to 25-man numbers; you're not going to get the fifteen-or-so people you require in one jump unless you pretty much absorb another guild.
At the moment I'm wondering about whether to propose an alliance with another to fill our gaps, but I'm sure there's going to have to be some ultra-careful negotiation over loot if we do that.
I'm RL so I *do* talk on vent - through necessity - no matter how big the group is, but I'm also That Guy who quips and tells awful jokes to try to keep morale up... or at least to get everyone hating me rather than each other. Either's good!
That's the really difficult thing about the transition, I'm finding; the simple fact that you're going to end up with a lot of people waiting around for opportunities to raid while you're trying to bolster up to 25-man numbers; you're not going to get the fifteen-or-so people you require in one jump unless you pretty much absorb another guild.
At the moment I'm wondering about whether to propose an alliance with another to fill our gaps, but I'm sure there's going to have to be some ultra-careful negotiation over loot if we do that.
I'm RL so I *do* talk on vent - through necessity - no matter how big the group is, but I'm also That Guy who quips and tells awful jokes to try to keep morale up... or at least to get everyone hating me rather than each other. Either's good!
I'm afraid my guild might be going towards this soon. :/
I joined them in the later part of DS while they were clearing 8/8h. Some drama happened and 2 officers left and took a few players with them, then some other people stoppled playing because of work or school.
We cleared 25-man 4/6 pretty easily but got stuck on Elegon for a while because some of the newer players just weren't cutting it. On off-nights we tried Elegon 10-man and were able to get it pretty easily.
Since then we haven't done 25s and have been doing two ten-mans but lately we've had some people becoming flakey and not show up. Ending up doing just one ten-man last night. :/
I really enjoy being on a smaller server but, fuck man, it's really hard to find new people and people aren't going to want to transfer to your guild if it isn't 6/6 vaults and 6/6 HoF.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Out of all the raid fights, Galaron is the first one to have a mechanic where one person screws up, the whole raid dies. This is akin to bosses in TBC, where in a fight like Vashj, if one person is positioned wrong or does something wrong, the whole raid dies.
It just takes one person to either take the pheremones away from the tank, or have pheremones and not give it to the tank, to wipe the raid. All it takes is one idiot, healer, dps, or even a dumbass tank who doesn't know what to do, to wipe the raid.
The Lamonster
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You seem to have some high highs with this game, and some low lows!
You can't quit when I'm leveling my horde toon on Hyjal! :|
I thought you were guildless? Well, that didn't last long.
Sir Abacus
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This is one of the problems with LFR in general. Spine was absolute torture to do on LFR because people would come in and grief the raid without a second thought. Wipe, come back and they'd immediately start the fight before people knew what was happening and who to kick.
You'd think with this being their premiere casual feature they'd use a bit of forethought but apparently we can't even get the designers to work iteratively on encounter design and see some progress. There should be some golden rules for designing LFR fights:
1) No one person can cause raid damage. Ever. You want to do raid damage? Put it on a buff that needs to be dispelled or something so if 1 in 6 people is paying attention it won't happen.
2) No one person can wipe the raid through too much damage. Again, LFR spine. One tentacle goes down? The others get immunity to damage. It wouldn't have been that hard.
3) No enrage timers. If 13 people in a group aren't retarded then let them finish the fight.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
My monk is stuck in a hadouken pose. I even restarted my PC.
ratcliffja
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Why would you want to change that?
Sir Abacus
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Well it looks like I'm probably never coming back. Who wants my stuff?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Well, it doesn't look particularly great. It's the beginning of the hadouken.
Here's me doing the Serpent Kick with it.
dibs
I grinded Pandas rep in early September that way!
I know... who cares about your factions rep right?
But... but... some people on GAF said he was incredibly easy on LFR.
He might be incredibly easy compared to normal, but don't undestimated the stupidity of the common WoW player.
He will probably not be a problem in a few weeks when people know what to do. Now every wipe half the raid leaves so it's a constant flow of new people every attempt.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I just wait a few hours before queueing up. Ended up with a raid that apparently had the least skeletons on the floor, so I was optimistic.
The raid finally did it, and with 6 retarded people locked out. Maybe it's better that retards just die locked out than actually fight.
He's not hard once you get 2 people who know how to do the debuff and you tell all melee to not go into the purple circle.
I one shot is last night that way, healer and I past the debuff back and forth.
eudaemonic
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I think I am done with the baboons in this game. Community is total shit now. I log on to lvl alts and avoid everyone else. My guild's early 10man group is just starting. The late one that I am in with the more "hardcore" people has a fucked up schedule and we can barely get enough together on scheduled nights.
I have a lot of free time left tho from D3 CE....
I have a lot of free time left tho from D3 CE....
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