Yeah it was a joke, that went even carried on with US getting world first :lol
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My group three heals it, helps a ton
Fixed2BeBroken
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farm status is if u can down stoneguards easy with that one shitty combo (jasper, cobalt, amnethyst). god I hate that combo. its so stupid. First boss with that combo is just way overtuned, being that the next 3 bosses are waaaaay easier
anyways, off my soapbox
In regards to spiritbinder, 3 heal it. Dps needs all pots and flasks etc. your raid leader needs to get an addon, and the addon basically will tell u the best people to go in when a totem comes up. It's pretty awesome. when it pops up, raid leader calls out names fast. the only time it sucks is if dps dont kill totem fast enough, and the healer that was assigned to the totem ends up getting voodoo doll right before. It happens sometimes but not enough to be an issue.
that should help resolve ur problems. also, cycle time spent in the spirit realm. so like first group that gets sent in dont spend too much time killing shit down there, while second group spends more time killing shit down there, repeat.
What we did to beat the enrage timer on garajal for our first few kills is:
- 3 Healers (10 man right?)
- Bloodlust/Heroism right away
- Ignore the first totem, so you get the full benefit of the Bloodlust/Heroism with all your DPS on the boss. You should be able to make up for it and kill the extra spirits later.
- Try mixing the people you send in the totems. DPS come back from the spirit world with a DPS buff, they should take advantage of this on the boss, while two other DPS go in the next totem to get their buff. Healers get to replenish their mana, so you should send low mana healers.
- Start ignoring the totems at 30%, keep all you DPS on the boss. Healers can still go to the spirit world to refill their mana, but all the DPS should stay on the boss. With 3 healers, you should have no problem healing through the extra damage until the end.
- Of course, everyone should have his flask up, some good food, prepot (which is great combined with the early Bloodlust), and pot again during the execute/burn phase.
- 3 Healers (10 man right?)
- Bloodlust/Heroism right away
- Ignore the first totem, so you get the full benefit of the Bloodlust/Heroism with all your DPS on the boss. You should be able to make up for it and kill the extra spirits later.
- Try mixing the people you send in the totems. DPS come back from the spirit world with a DPS buff, they should take advantage of this on the boss, while two other DPS go in the next totem to get their buff. Healers get to replenish their mana, so you should send low mana healers.
- Start ignoring the totems at 30%, keep all you DPS on the boss. Healers can still go to the spirit world to refill their mana, but all the DPS should stay on the boss. With 3 healers, you should have no problem healing through the extra damage until the end.
- Of course, everyone should have his flask up, some good food, prepot (which is great combined with the early Bloodlust), and pot again during the execute/burn phase.
scoobs
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jealous
MoP: Hybrid Tax Exemption
Evil Benius
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Thanks for the tips on Gara'jal guys. Interesting that multiple people are saying three healers is the way to go since we have been working under the assumption that you have to go two to beat enrage. Also we had a quick hour of attempts today and went with an announce addon to help rotate people into the spirit realm for the buff, it helped a lot. Our main issue today was having to sub in a tank since one of our mains was out for the day. He was a little too squishy and just could not handle it, but we did get down to around 50% for the first time.
I will recommend the other suggestions for next weekend even though I will be gone on a trip (which means they will get the first kill on him of course).
I will recommend the other suggestions for next weekend even though I will be gone on a trip (which means they will get the first kill on him of course).
Enosh
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pff five goats, it doesn't get fun until you pull ALL the goats
in "live journal" news
going from 25 man to 10 man might not have been such a good idea after all, some drama ensued on the forums and now 3 rather important people left (2 of them healers), some officers resigned and in general shit has hit the fan
those 3 members made a new guild and I have an invitation open with them, don't know what to do atm
I hate guild drama -.-
Christ, I know that feel bro. It happened to my first guild, bad feels dude.
I was going to suggest moving to 2 healers. That really helped us, but also we started having our two best DPS go in portals, kill a few adds, and then quickly leave. A second set of dps (who were lower) took the next totem and spent most of their time killing adds.
Our healers can't do it. Me, the other tank and one or two dps are all that ever make it past the first set of tornadoes in phase 2.
Rogue has a lot of ability bloat. It's similar in terms of basic rotation to a Feral Druid, but there are additional cooldowns that Rogues have that influence combo point generation, there's Vanish, and the poisons are another added complication. Also, my partner found out that at 85, Sub is very underpowered. Combat is currently the strongest Rogue spec and plays a bit like Arms Warrior.
Subtlety is the most complicated melee spec I'm aware of. It isn't Affliction Warlock complicated, but there are a lot of ways to screw up and have shit DPS for 15-20 seconds, and it doesn't have the gimmes that Ferals get to make it more manageable (Glyph of Shred and Glyph of Savage Roar).
Affliction is complicated?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
What's up man?
Does that work if the RL sometimes ends up in the spirit realm? I was trying to call that out (without the aid of an addon), but I found that things got tricky when I was in the spirit realm and so couldn't 'see' what was happening on the outside.
Evil Benius
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I was the one running the addon yesterday and there did not seem to be any issues while I was in the spirit realm.
What's up man?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
:lol Screw you
What's up man?
CarbonatedFalcon
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Huh. Just checked that out. Didn't know there was anything tangible from it. The title not being listed is probably why I didn't know. I wonder if that one is level restricted or not?
May have to put in some effort, but having found all the Pandaria rares (last one isn't completed, but eh) without getting a single pristine artifact, I wasn't holding out much hope.
Robin64
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Stuck on EU servers with a bunch of mates that have already had their fill of MoP and so barely log on at all. Even getting a Scenario run of mates together is proving to be tough. So sod it.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Oh, haha I thought you were making fun of:I was being serious?What happened? Good? Bad? Average?
But yeah it was nothing serious :3
No. Not to me.
Maybe when you leveled as something else and then switch to affliction and start raiding at 90 ... might take some time to get used to.
But Pandemic kind of makes things pretty easy.
You're going to suck on short fights ... only time you shine is when you can roll your 10 stack Agony around for a long time.
And here I was thinking I was playing my class/spec wrong, whew.
Apply Curse of elements (unless someone else applies a similar debuff, which is never
)Pop any (haste) buff you have, Soulburn + Soulswap, Haunt, Spam Malific grasp/Drain soul when below 20%.
Extend Corruption/Unstable affliction using Fel flame, reapply Bane of agony when < 50% remaining.
I assume with short fights, you mean trash? I just Soulburn + Soulswap till I'm out of shards, than spam Malific grasp on the last one I tagged, switching to Drain Soul when close to 20% (Have to be fast, because if melee starts pounding on that mob, it's down in no time.)
Evil Benius
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Yeah most of my friends packed up shop a few weeks ago and our guild became a wasteland. I said screw it and joined a community guild I am a part of and actually have people around to do stuff with again. I really feel like MoP had a faster burnoff than Cat did despite having better content. The game is just getting older combined with the reputation grinds at 90 really killed it for a lot of people I think.
subtlety was complicated, but with the anticipation talent, removing recoup from the rotation, the increase in SnD to 36 seconds at 5cp, removal of shadowstep, etc., the spec lost a lot of its complexity with MoP.
I wouldn't say complicated but they are one of the more difficult to play classes at a high level in PvP. Once you move past the bomb, kidney dance to actual match control.
Well, if you want a cheerily incompetent raiding guild on a small server with a poor - but friendly - player pool, get thee to Aggramar and seek us out.
(I'm not much good at advertising, am I?)
Assassination Rogue is probably the least fun I've had as a Rogue. 5CP Envenom feels really underpowered and energy regen is like watching the grass grow. My 86 Frost DK feels like it does way more damage with Obliterate than my 90 Rogue's finishers. I haven't even tried my Fire Mage or Ret Pally yet, but I imagine they will feel like dropping bombs too.
Here's my opinion:
T1: Blood Boil: Makes your Blood Boil trigger Pestilence. Slap Outbreak on an enemy, use Blood Boil, and Boom!
T2: Any of the choices could potentially work depending on the fight. I went Purgatory, since it kinda acts as a "OH SHIT" to your healers to get you up quickly. Basically keeps you from dying for 3 sec should you get hit with a fatal attack. If you don't get healed though...well, you're dead. But you can switch this Talent as needed for fights since the other talents on this tier as pretty useful too. Lichborne makes you immune to Charm/Fear/Sleep for about 10 sec (plus Death Coil heals), and Anti-Magic Zone is an AoE AMS that's useful if the enemy is gonna bust out a powerful Magic attack.
T3: Death's Advance: Using it makes you go faster, and it passively makes you go faster and keeps you from going below 70% Movement Speed.
T4: Death Pact: You'd probably have to macro it though. Steals life from your Ghoul to restore your health.
T5: Blood Tap: May have to macro to get the best use out of it. Builds up charges you can use to make Death Runes.
T6: All are pretty situational in how useful they are. Desecrated Ground is handy if you know something like Stun/Fear/Charm is coming up. Gorefiend's Grasp will pull everything to you in a 20 yd radius. Remorseless Winter will Slow and eventually Stun/Freeze enemies for up to 6 sec.
Finaika
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So its not just me. Envenom's damage seems pretty weak in this expansion, compared to hitting like a truck in Dragon Soul.
So what's the most complex DPS spec at the moment? It seems to me every multi-dotting class got something to help with AoE except for Moonkins, which are still ass in anything but single-target slow burn.
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