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Robin64

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It's one of the worst instance of the game, a complete labyrinthic ugly mess that is a relic of design decisions fortunately long gone. Enjoy :D

Have you been in since the changes? It's vastly different now. That entire maze section was just ripped out, basically.

New-WailingCaverns-Woot.jpg
 

Bisnic

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Have you been in since the changes? It's vastly different now. That entire maze section was just ripped out, basically.

New-WailingCaverns-Woot.jpg

Yeah, i don't really like the current Wailing Caverns since its butt ugly, but the original version was a real pain.

The two things I wish Blizzard would fix from vanilla dungeons are :

1)That one escort quest in Razorden Downs where you have to accept and complete his first quest before starting the actual escort quest, which means at least 3 or 4 players will miss it. I always have to run to that guy first just to be sure i get the escort before someone start it too fast.

2)That goblin quest in the last part of Dire Maul. Only one player can loot the item and it won't respawn. Fuck that shit.

And, did anyone realize how much ridiculous XP the quests in the low lvl versions of Scarlet Halls, Scarlet Monastery and Scholomance give? I know its probably because it scales from the heroic versions of the quests, but still! They give like 3 times more XP than a normal dungeon quest.
 

Tacitus_

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I only see it on the scarlet halls with Armsmaster Harlan

When you die on the boss whirlwind It says something like this " You died because you were trapped on the boss whirlwind try to avoid it next time"

Oh good grief that reminded me of something. A tank was whining about the DPS not killing him before that move since he kept dying to it. I cussed him out so badly at that point that I got kicked out of the group :lol
 

Salamando

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No doubt there are stupid people. But I don't think they make up the entire populace. The LFRs I've run go relatively smooth when I tank because I ask people if they don't know anything. Of course, it helps that I'm a tank asking. If I was DPS, people would just pull anyway and fuck the raid. At least when the tank asks if anybody needs to know anything most people will stop or slow the fuck down and wait.

As a tank, I've seen things go both ways. I've successfully led a group through SOO 4 with no wipes and while talking the offtank through each boss's mechanics. All that was really needed were some marks on the things to kill, and stuff went relatively smoothly. I've also tried to lead groups of people who just didn't listen. Once I wiped three times on Sha of Pride despite me calling out each mechanic and raid-warning everyone what to do.

At least part of the problem is it can be very easy for one newbie/troll to make their presence known. Pulling bosses, facepulling adds we try to skip, deciding their DPS is more important than proper tanking, timewarping at the worst possible time......
 
I was surprised that they simplified wailing caverns and not maraudon. I mean, they did break it up into 3 dungeons and you don't have to go through a goddamn maze to enter from the world map if you LFD it, but 2/3rds of my groups skipping rotgrip entirely feels like a problem they could have fixed with, like, a rope or something.
 
Speaking of lusting at inopportune times, had a troll the other day that kept lusting at the start on Nazgrim. Wiped at least once because of it, and even when I specifically stated in raid chat to save it for his berserker stance, affirmed by others, it still happened the next pull. Despite the failure to simply read your chat box there, we got him down on that or the following attempt in spite of it, but yeesh.

And yes, that Razorfen Kraul quest is bullshit.
 

Dawg

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I remember Blizzard saying they would release more content faster to avoid people getting bored until the next expansion.

First few patches did this all right, but now we're at the same point WoW always ends up. It's been several months since the last 'big' content patch and the next expansion is probably still months away since the next PvP season has yet to start.

They're teasing the closed beta at the moment, but to put things in perspective... the MoP beta started march 2012 and the release ended up being september 2012.

I prefer WoW over GW2, but I wonder why Blizzard doesn't do temporarily 'story events' every few weeks to keep things interesting. Or at least add some new stuff to the holiday events each year, I can't be the only one who thinks it's really getting old seeing the exact same holiday stuff each year with little to no improvement? :p I remember when they forgot to edit the anniversary letter :p
 

Data West

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FINALLY got my green flames, and man, by the skin of my teeth. I tried a couple things, but I guess I was just on my game picking up felhunters today. It helped that I'm using corruption constantly in raids now. I got REAL close early on, but I ended up dying before I could finish it.

So I was killing him this last run. I went back to Kil'jaeden's because I needed to be constantly hitting him. AOE I'd just RoF, fire and brim a few inc and let the pit lord take care of the rest. I was damaging him bad, but I guess not bad enough? Seed of Ultimate Doom or whatever goes off. Dead. As I die, the Forsaken girl jumps on him and does hte little RP thing. Quest completed. Fun. BUT I release and go run up to turn it in. THE FUCKING ADDS ARE STILL UP. The two doom guards and the pit lord and some imps. So I enslave the pit lord to distract them, soul shatter, click the dude then hearth the fuck out of there.
 
You don't have to abandon the quest. You can use dungeon finder to get a group and still complete the quest in a group. That's the best option if you want to see the Caverns.

I never even considered I could just use Dungeon Finder to start the Wailing Cavern's dungeon. I will jump on soon and check it out, I hadn't actually opened dungeon finder yet. I had assumed it was setup like an intro to doing dungeons so I was meant to just travel there as it was only a minute or two from where I got the quest.

Noob moment.

I'd high recommend the dungeon finder while leveling. Very low chance of failure, most of the quest NPC's are actually in their respective instances, and you don't have to worry about traveling around the world to get to the dungeons.

Also, at level 20 you will get a quest from your class trainer in your main city (org/stormwind) for a quest in Shadowfang keep that will reward you with a very nice weapon, so be on the look out for that. Basically as soon as you hit 20 you should go to the city, get the quest, and use dungeon finder to queue for SFK.

Thanks for this, sounds good. I will check it out today, could definitely do with some more DPS.

Has there been any official news about Blizzard doing an overhaul to the older content; textures etc?
 
I usually go for the LFR without knowing the mechanics so when I screw up or Die early I always ask why I died or failed then I realized most people are complete unaware of the fights just like me and we are just waiting for someone to point out the direction of the fight but yeah some of them just want to be carried by a overgeared group and not doing nothing.

Being a Tank in a LFR is really stressfull, thats why I kinda avoid doing it with my pally.

No offense but if you go into a LFR as the tank without looking up/knowing the fights before hand you're a massive dick, you are literally wasting 24 other people's time and gold because you're too fucking lazy.

It's fine as any other role, but it's not fine as a tank. You could at least /w the other tank and ask before hand, I helped out tons of offtanks have a perfect runs and by giving them a 1 sentence summary because they ASKED ME instead of saying nothing and wiping the raid.

It happens in flex as well, and even normal pugs, it's absolutely infuriating, I've made sure to get every single one kicked. If you want to learn as you go, be a dps or a healer or go as a guild, not in a pug.

Sorry, just my biggest pet peeve, it doesn't even take 30 seconds to read the journal, and less to ask.

Have you been in since the changes? It's vastly different now. That entire maze section was just ripped out, basically.

New-WailingCaverns-Woot.jpg


Doesn't make it any less boring sadly, still my least favorite instance in game.

I remember Blizzard saying they would release more content faster to avoid people getting bored until the next expansion.

First few patches did this all right, but now we're at the same point WoW always ends up. It's been several months since the last 'big' content patch and the next expansion is probably still months away since the next PvP season has yet to start.

They're teasing the closed beta at the moment, but to put things in perspective... the MoP beta started march 2012 and the release ended up being september 2012.

I prefer WoW over GW2, but I wonder why Blizzard doesn't do temporarily 'story events' every few weeks to keep things interesting. Or at least add some new stuff to the holiday events each year, I can't be the only one who thinks it's really getting old seeing the exact same holiday stuff each year with little to no improvement? :p I remember when they forgot to edit the anniversary letter :p


It is how it is, maybe that's part of GC left, frustrated they couldn't speed it up?

Still I do feel it's a bit ridiculous that the only content for year is a new arena season and a pay mount.

I normally don't mind the pay mounts or w/e (never bought any because they're all ugly imo), but this $25 mount being the only content for year (of $15 per month) and being pay to get leaves a really really bad taste in my mount and feels really insulting.

And yes, the holiday stuff is pretty grating, especially when you've done the achievements/mounts years ago, the holiday events might as well not exist for me anymore.

FINALLY got my green flames, and man, by the skin of my teeth. I tried a couple things, but I guess I was just on my game picking up felhunters today. It helped that I'm using corruption constantly in raids now. I got REAL close early on, but I ended up dying before I could finish it.

Congrats! I really want to level my Lock just for that questline (the items are so cheap on ah these days) but man those last 3 levels in MoP are grueling.
 
No offense but if you go into a LFR as the tank without looking up/knowing the fights before hand you're a massive dick, you are literally wasting 24 other people's time and gold because you're too fucking lazy.

It's fine as any other role, but it's not fine as a tank. You could at least /w the other tank and ask before hand, I helped out tons of offtanks have a perfect runs and by giving them a 1 sentence summary because they ASKED ME instead of saying nothing and wiping the raid.

It happens in flex as well, and even normal pugs, it's absolutely infuriating, I've made sure to get every single one kicked. If you want to learn as you go, be a dps or a healer or go as a guild, not in a pug.

Sorry, just my biggest pet peeve, it doesn't even take 30 seconds to read the journal, and less to ask.

Oh you get me wrong thats my experience as a DPS, as a Tank I read the raid journal then play but usually we wipe because hunters hitting the wrong target (Lotus fight) or some clueless DPS pulled on the third or fourth part of LFR so I got the blaming for that.
 

Mordeccai

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So after much deliberation at work today I decided I want to try out WoW again over my three day weekend. Can anybody hook me up with a resurrection scroll? Please PM me!

Also, is there a main gaf guild on a server somewhere? Would greatly prefer to play with a guild of gaffers. I will heal the shit out of you guys.
 
Oh you get me wrong thats my experience as a DPS, as a Tank I read the raid journal then play but usually we wipe because hunters hitting the wrong target (Lotus fight) or some clueless DPS pulled on the third or fourth part of LFR so I got the blaming for that.

Then we cool :), I wasn't really going off on you personally and I'm sorry if it came across that way. Clueless tanks in raids is just a pet peeve of mine, since they're the linchpins and if one keeps dying and the other is not overgeared it's normally a wipe.

And yeah, tanks getting blamed for everything in pugs is a pain, but that's why most tanks become headstrong and then everyone thinks all tanks are prima donnas or douches without realising that it's because the other ones either stopped tanking or only do it for their guilds because they don't want to deal with pug/lfr mentalities.

So after much deliberation at work today I decided I want to try out WoW again over my three day weekend. Can anybody hook me up with a resurrection scroll? Please PM me!

Also, is there a main gaf guild on a server somewhere? Would greatly prefer to play with a guild of gaffers. I will heal the shit out of you guys.

You should probably say if you need one from US or EU, though I'm guessing probably US :).
 

TheYanger

Member
I'd high recommend the dungeon finder while leveling. Very low chance of failure, most of the quest NPC's are actually in their respective instances, and you don't have to worry about traveling around the world to get to the dungeons.

Also, at level 20 you will get a quest from your class trainer in your main city (org/stormwind) for a quest in Shadowfang keep that will reward you with a very nice weapon, so be on the look out for that. Basically as soon as you hit 20 you should go to the city, get the quest, and use dungeon finder to queue for SFK.

That's just for Paladins :)
 

sqwarlock

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After five 90s, and with my current leveling alt sitting at 83, I'm ready for paid 90s for one reason and one reason only: Cross-realm zone ganking. I know I'm on a PvP realm, and I'm ok with that, but when I'm trying to quest and I get pounded on by 90s from three different servers who have nothing better to do...

Sorry, just ranting is all. But if I can pay 15ish bucks to avoid this bullshit? I'm in.
 

Tarazet

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After five 90s, and with my current leveling alt sitting at 83, I'm ready for paid 90s for one reason and one reason only: Cross-realm zone ganking. I know I'm on a PvP realm, and I'm ok with that, but when I'm trying to quest and I get pounded on by 90s from three different servers who have nothing better to do...

Sorry, just ranting is all. But if I can pay 15ish bucks to avoid this bullshit? I'm in.

Pay the money to transfer to a PvE realm. Been on a mid-pop one since I started and never regretted it for a second.
 
I forgot how awful Mists leveling pugs are. We had a Monk, Rogue, and DK, how the fuck am I (holy pally) the only one interrupting Taran Zhu?

Just needed to vent a little.

After five 90s, and with my current leveling alt sitting at 83, I'm ready for paid 90s for one reason and one reason only: Cross-realm zone ganking. I know I'm on a PvP realm, and I'm ok with that, but when I'm trying to quest and I get pounded on by 90s from three different servers who have nothing better to do...

Sorry, just ranting is all. But if I can pay 15ish bucks to avoid this bullshit? I'm in.

I'm like this right now. Despite merging with about 5 other servers my old main's server (Boulderfist) is still dominated by horde (I'm alliance). Basically leveling from just the cooking and fishing dailies in Stormwind and dungeons on my Holy Pally. Plan on doing the same on my Prot Warrior but probably don't have the matience on my Hunter.
 

Khezu

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If Huolons mount drops on a character that doesn't have cloud serpent flying, can they still learn the mount, so I can use it on my character that does have it?
 

Tacitus_

Member
After five 90s, and with my current leveling alt sitting at 83, I'm ready for paid 90s for one reason and one reason only: Cross-realm zone ganking. I know I'm on a PvP realm, and I'm ok with that, but when I'm trying to quest and I get pounded on by 90s from three different servers who have nothing better to do...

Sorry, just ranting is all. But if I can pay 15ish bucks to avoid this bullshit? I'm in.

Pay the money to transfer to a PvE realm. Been on a mid-pop one since I started and never regretted it for a second.

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Hupsel

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After failing like 40 times to Nibbleh (I never want to see this snake again), I finally made my way to Ahroo, the last boss in the Brawler's Guild!

Im playing my rogue and died almost instantly during the first few tries until I really started to pay attention to the orbs. Guess I cant cloak of shadow and just run around touching the different orbs =/
 
I raise you Maraudon and Uldaman.

Uldaman was actually my 2nd favorite vanilla instance after Sunken Temple (cata sunken temple is nowhere near as cool though).

The first time I did it, hunting for those two parts of the staff, putting them into the miniature town, watching the laser beam shoot out off and outline the door was ridiculously awesome.

Felt like something out of a disney movie too me.

I liked maraudon, big sprawling, but not confusing and especially because I nobody new the slimes had and AOE damage aura thing and as the tank me and the melee dps died literally every pull on them, and we were all too dumb to realize it. Cata maraudon is horrible though.

Good times, good times.

Wailing Caverns didn't have a single redeeming feature.
 

Data West

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I think my issue with the boosted 90s currenlty is if I want to spend it on an alliance and have a 'different side' on a lower pop server to play with my brother or if i want to have an easy 90 to do crafting for my horde characters.
 

Benutzer

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After five 90s, and with my current leveling alt sitting at 83, I'm ready for paid 90s for one reason and one reason only: Cross-realm zone ganking. I know I'm on a PvP realm, and I'm ok with that, but when I'm trying to quest and I get pounded on by 90s from three different servers who have nothing better to do...

Sorry, just ranting is all. But if I can pay 15ish bucks to avoid this bullshit? I'm in.

if it were like level 19 twinks ganking, ok... but 90s ganking in low-level zones really drains the fun out of questing. 15 dollars might be to low... i bet it's more :(
 
R

Rösti

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So beta (announcement) before, on or after the 6th of February? What do you think?
 

Robin64

Member
if it were like level 19 twinks ganking, ok... but 90s ganking in low-level zones really drains the fun out of questing. 15 dollars might be to low... i bet it's more :(

Recently got a character to Hellfire and figured I'd do the quest to capture the three PvP points. Bad idea. Level 90s just camping the area and killing people who tried. I really have no idea why..
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Is OpenRaid better than OQ for finding World Boss runs? The one time I tried to use openraid all I saw was a firelands raid
 

RPGCrazied

Member
Yer it's very easy nowadays, hit him, kill add take flying disc, kill rest of adds.

Get 5 stacks of 3, the healing hot thing, then just spam 1, 1, 2, 3, and repeat till he's dead.

That's it? I'll try it. So when the actual fight starts, hit the 3rd skill 5 times, then just do 1, 1, 2, 3 and do the chain again?

Didn't know it was so simple, always had problems with this fight. lol
 

Tacitus_

Member
if it were like level 19 twinks ganking, ok... but 90s ganking in low-level zones really drains the fun out of questing. 15 dollars might be to low... i bet it's more :(

Has always happened, will always happen. I tried leveling a character on a PVP server once, but STV made me nope back to my carebear PVE server.
 

Ultratech

Member
That's it? I'll try it. So when the actual fight starts, hit the 3rd skill 5 times, then just do 1, 1, 2, 3 and do the chain again?

Didn't know it was so simple, always had problems with this fight. lol

Yup, it's pretty easy. Especially so for bursty ranged.

Just try to not spam the button combinations.

Like wait a little bit, hit 1, wait a sec, hit 1, then wait until you got enough energy to hit 2, and then hit 3, and repeat.

The reasoning for this is to keep the DoT stacking, since it does increasingly more damage to Malygos.
 
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