Gentleman Jack
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I just noticed your vids cut off the actual deaths of every boss except Kromog and Gruul
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I just noticed your vids cut off the actual deaths of every boss except Kromog and Gruul
Schweinehund
Member
First week of these raids in pugs are awful
Was hoping most raid gorups would have the first few bosses on farm but lots of groups I get into have trouble on oregorger. It will get better though, highmaul's first week was awful as well.
Was hoping most raid gorups would have the first few bosses on farm but lots of groups I get into have trouble on oregorger. It will get better though, highmaul's first week was awful as well.
I had gotten so used to the slow, plodding pace of 2H frost that dual wield is a brain shock. I have to get used to banking runic power so I always have enough to cast frost strike on killing machine procs.
My numbers are lower for now but we killed heroic oregorger today and dps steadily climbed as I got more used to it.
My numbers are lower for now but we killed heroic oregorger today and dps steadily climbed as I got more used to it.
Gotta give it a week or two for the pugs to start understanding the fights, not worth the trouble atm.
Guess I'll go back to Heroic Highmaul then
Oh that's even worse right now because everyone that knows the fights and has the gear is trying to move onto the new one. Last few nights I couldn't find a decent group for anything.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
3/10 bosses down on heroic, on Operator Thogar right now. This boss looks fun.
RazorbackDB
Member
I got 4 bosses down with pugs, Hans'gar and Beastlord on first try, Gruul took a couple of wipes, Oregorger was the most difficult because of too much people dying in the first rolling phase everytime and camera boss, I also switched to fire, fuck RoP.
I'll wait until next week for my buddies on vacation to continue but yeah pugs should get a lot better once everyone gets a couple of trys.
I'll wait until next week for my buddies on vacation to continue but yeah pugs should get a lot better once everyone gets a couple of trys.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Thogar is insane.
Yeah, I might just switch to Fire. ROP is getting annoying. Are you using IF then?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Doing the train fight
Fire is back baby
Fucking fantastic
Fire is back baby
Fucking fantastic
RazorbackDB
Member
Probably going to switch to IF, RoP is supposedly the best talent for fire but I don't think is worth the trouble, specially when learning new fights.
I pugged the love ray achievement a bit ago and it was a bit like watching a sinking ship. Like I was about halfway down on the list and it was starting to get sketchy if people could hold it together before my turn came up (as people were bad at timing the rays and people were slowly running out of charges faster than we were getting new people). Occasionally a new person would come in and I just wanted to tell them that the chances of them getting it done in this group was probably not good, but, I had to make sure I actually got mine done. I feel bad about it >_>
there isn't a single fight in foundry you should use ROP as fire on, since the single target encounters are arcane fights.
IF is viable as arcane on all of the fights outside of gruul, where you just stand there anyway, the other fight i would consider it extremely strong for is kromog.
it can be played on all of the arcane fights however barring blackhand, but its not an immense dps loss to play IF.
the 5 fire encounters are all the same talents basically.
heavy movement, aoe.
LB-IF-kindling
you can swap kindling with meteor in some situations in this instance, but none of those situations have really shown light on heroic for me.
once you get the goren soul repository trinket your openers become consistent enough, 4 pce obviously being king of all tier right now but goren trinket does a solid job at giving you some decent openers as well.
without tier i had a 22k opener combust on thogar tonight for example, mostly due to the crit the trinket granted me, since I'm so damn low on crit thanks to mastery enchants and gems.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
The model viewer sometimes misses up.
it is a bug
Trickster
Member
They must be hiding a pretty big secret on the PTR, then.
I stopped doing weekly garrison mission very quickly, like 2-3 weeks into the expansion. I thought they were just completely unrelated weekly mini quest hubs? Is that incorrect, and there's actually an overarching storyline?
Robin64
Member
The first bunch are part of a random selection, but then the order becomes linear and there is indeed an overarching story.
Near the end a story actually starts, not really interesting but its the first time in the expansion at level 100 where something was actually happening on Draenor so its better than literally nothing. Didn't end on a cliffhanger or anything really so who knows what's next.
Trickster
Member
Damn, guess I should start doing them again. Main reason I stopped was that it just felt like dumb random grinding quests with no real story or purpose.
Robin64
Member
Oh don't worry, some of the quests are far from grinding. One of them is "Go and kill this named mob" and you do and they give nothing else. That's you done for the week!
Really bad questline, in my opinion.
Yeah twitch sucks dickI just noticed your vids cut off the actual deaths of every boss except Kromog and Gruul
Didn't do it yet, but I'm willing to say the answer is yes. He's the final boss of the instance and isn't happy that we are wrecking havoc on his foundry.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
You can beat a boss and they don't die.
Blackhand is captured and sentenced to trial, but on its trip to Shattrath the prison cart he's being transported in tumbles over; the crafty work of the Kairozdormu's ghost. With the assistance of this spectral time lord Blackhand spirals off to another timeline of Draenor, a reality where the native orcs actually stand a chance.
Nice. But seriously though, it sounds so stupid that somehow I'm expecting Blizz to do it.
I'm well aware of that. I'm speaking in context to Blackhand as I very much doubt he'll live past BRF.
KJ gets what he wants. What can you do if he sticks a green rock in your chest?
Yeah, we've not got Oregorger yet, and part of that's due to taking a few goes to find a positioning where people can actually *see* what's going on.
You forgot the part where the final boss of the next expac is Blackhand's dad
Grom is a terrible and boring villain : /
Just sent my followers to their first highmaul mythic mission with 86%... wish them luck
I'm switching back to boomkin after all the crap I talked about it lol
I still like playing feral over balannce but just the blast furance fight which is 2 phases of adds proved very diffiult as a feral and I already had trouble in a couple of highmaul fights and we will still run hc highmaul and try to progress on mythic
Our co-gm which is also the raid leader agreed and said he would prefer if I played but told me to stick with it if I switch
I'm gonna swith to either a hunter or warlock at some point as my main but I honestly can't decide which is more fun to play..
Warlock has awesome spells and some complexity with metamorphosis plus great raid utility
Hunter mobility is so goddamn on its own
I'm switching back to boomkin after all the crap I talked about it lol
I still like playing feral over balannce but just the blast furance fight which is 2 phases of adds proved very diffiult as a feral and I already had trouble in a couple of highmaul fights and we will still run hc highmaul and try to progress on mythic
Our co-gm which is also the raid leader agreed and said he would prefer if I played but told me to stick with it if I switch
I'm gonna swith to either a hunter or warlock at some point as my main but I honestly can't decide which is more fun to play..
Warlock has awesome spells and some complexity with metamorphosis plus great raid utility
Hunter mobility is so goddamn on its own
Gentleman Jack
Member
People can stay in the center and call out where he's going (as well as run past him after a collision) and your more mobile dps use this information to clear the perimeter so they don't need to constantly twirl their camera to see where he is at all times.
Freakinchair
Member
I'm skimming through the thread and I'm seeing bits and pieces of potential story spoilers - can we keep those in spoiler tags please? Please don't say "lol who cares about the story" because I do and I'll hook u in the gabr m8.
RazorbackDB
Member
thanks for the info, that's what I got from guides, haven't used fire since the start of cata but the rotation is almost the same that I remember.
what about dps? I was doing around 24k with 666ilvl
I think Grom serves his purpose fine. I mean don't get me wrong, you are 100% right, he is not a great bad guy but I don't really think he is meant to be an interesting bad guy. I look at him as more of a side effect of Kairoz/Garrosh's actions, he is as much of a character as like say the heart of Y'shaarj was (though I think I'd argue Y'shaarj was more interesting than Grom lol).
I think my real problem with the whole thing is it feels like we're just spinning our wheels despite being at the start of the expansion. Between the Tanaan opening quest chain, the various dungeons, and BRF we've already dismantled like 95% of the Iron Horde so Grom seems like he is just cowering in a corner somewhere in Tanaan instead of actually doing something. To compound the problem they haven't really set up any other plot lines so if we get another raid before Grom's it is going to feel incredibly random story-wise. I mean there is whatever is going on with Gul'dan I guess (which I do find interesting) but I assume they are just going to drip that out slowly over the course of the expansion.
Schweinehund
Member
Why can't my mythic highmaul cache be from brf instead .
Seems odd Rukhmar doesn't drop pants/glove tokens. Definitely going to make getting a 4 piece tough.
.Seems odd Rukhmar doesn't drop pants/glove tokens. Definitely going to make getting a 4 piece tough.
It's not that odd. The MoP Celestials dropped tier so that casual players could attain some solid gear for a minimal time investment each week. Garrison missions fulfill that purpose in WoD.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Why can't my mythic highmaul cache be from brf instead
I believe those come with 6.1
Yeah maybe Tanaan will be really fleshed out when we finally get there and it will look like he has been doing something. Gul'dan is a better 'final' boss for the expac though
Schweinehund
Member
But they still drop normal qualtiy gear. Even if it were normal tokens that would be cool.
Good to hear, guess that will drop in the next few weeks.
It's Reyn Time!
Member
How cool would it be if we get back to Tanaan Jungle only to find the Burning Legion's shown up anyway?