And shouldn't be surprising. Blizzard has been bad about content release/pacing in literally every single expansion. Vanilla is the last time they released shit at a reasonable rate.
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World of Warcraft |OT7| Feel the hatred of 10,000 Murlocs
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And shouldn't be surprising. Blizzard has been bad about content release/pacing in literally every single expansion. Vanilla is the last time they released shit at a reasonable rate.
Just in time!
And the irony is that content was experienced by the lowest proportion of people. We've gone from the most content done by the least people to the least content done by the most people.
I just wish they'd drop this whole "releasing expansions faster" facade. Pace content to release over two years. Plan for a two year expansion cycle. Develop more than one tier from the beginning. No one wants to buy expansions more often other than the accountants at Activision. People just want a steady stream of content at a reasonable pace.
CarbonatedFalcon
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I guess it's a good thing then at least about a quarter of the people on my team don't need one or shouldn't be getting one anyway -_-
CRACKING DOWN ON MISTAKES THIS WEEK BOIS
So that makes, what, 14 months of playing the same raid content. Is that a new record?
Autumn actually start on September 21st, so you're still 3 weeks off. Still count as summer.
Not like Blizzard actually cares about what counts as "summer" to people still at school.
Autumn actually start on September 21st, so you're still 3 weeks off. Still count as summer.
Not like Blizzard actually cares about what counts as "summer" to people still at school.So that makes, what, 14 months of playing the same raid content. Is that a new record?
Autumn actually start on September 21st, so you're still 3 weeks off. Still count as summer.
Apparently it will fall short of SoO's time by about 20 days.
This kinda just reinforces my belief that WoD was dead on arrival. They probably knew it wasn't up to snuff and practically abandoned it to get all hands on deck for Legion. Seems like they're basically all-in on Legion.
At least this will give me plenty of time to get HFC gear for my DK. Got Heroic 2pc last night 😁
At least this will give me plenty of time to get HFC gear for my DK. Got Heroic 2pc last night 😁
Yeah, 100% agree. Said it a million times but 2 years with reasonable paced patches is pretty much the dream for me. I thought it worked so perfectly in vanilla and the way things went down in TBC, then Wrath, then Cata, then MoP, and now WoD has left me shaking my head each time. They really need to let go of this 1 year expansion plan that I've never seen anyone yelling from the rooftops about wanting anyway.
I mean yeah I guess :|
I'd prefer that situation to the one we have right now for sure, even if I don't like either.
Remember that the playerbase hit 10 million again during WoD release. The expansion wasn't successful because of Blizzard's handling of it after launch.
All the stuff that brought those people back was in at launch. The leveling experience, etc. One people hit 100 and found out there was nothing to do but raid, it dropped off quickly and Blizzard didn't really do anything about it. Guessing they left a small team on 6.2 shortly after launch and pretty much wrote off the expansion otherwise.
CelticKnight
Member
August 30th!?!
Jesus fucking wept...
Jesus fucking wept...
its even better when they haven't hit one year.....since they announced faster expansions. They still seem to come out almost every 2 years
yes, lol just checked Lich King was the only expansion to hit the 1 year mark....everything else is almost 2 years....they have not done a good job AT ALL.
So almost no content patches and they can't hit their yearly expansion promise.
Blizzard really can't do anything correctly.
They need to just release World of Warcraft 2, bring back vanilla in their own form and make everything fresh again....start the levels over.......levels are just becoming fucking insane. I mean 110......whats the next expansion going to do? 120......we will be at double the levels since the launch!
So almost no content patches and they can't hit their yearly expansion promise.
Blizzard really can't do anything correctly.
They need to just release World of Warcraft 2, bring back vanilla in their own form and make everything fresh again....start the levels over.......levels are just becoming fucking insane. I mean 110......whats the next expansion going to do? 120......we will be at double the levels since the launch!
Autumn actually start on September 21st, so you're still 3 weeks off. Still count as summer.
I don't know what funky calendar you've got there, but here autumn starts on september (literally called autumn month) It's also when the temps start dropping and it starts raini--- scratch that, low temps and rain is the usual summer anyway
>_>
RoninChaos
Member
L O FUCKING L. Jesus christ, Blizzard. You better knock legion the fuck out of the park.
WOTLK was even a bit of a cheat since they launched with a totally recycled raid.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Well, it also launched with the biggest new landmass and more new dungeons than any subsequent xpac, so I'd say that's kind of a wash.
I dunno, Hearthstone must be printing money and they need a much smaller devteam. 40 million accounts is a lot of money from card packs.
Melhisedek
Member
Damn just resubbed and EU token prices are insane
What do you need to do in order to make 86k+ each month for the token? I have 3 lvl 100s and I don't think it's enough. How many lvl 100s do I need
What do you need to do in order to make 86k+ each month for the token? I have 3 lvl 100s and I don't think it's enough. How many lvl 100s do I need
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
429 days of Siege of Orgrimmar, 434 days of Hellfire Citadel
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Siege was a good raid, at least. I barely did any of HFC before totally losing interest. I can't imagine folks doing it for a year.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
faster content cycles tho
remember when dragon soul seemed outrageous
well that raid was pretty bad
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
its been grating, and mostly because the difficulty progression is off balance, especially in mythic. the 5th boss (Gorefiend) is harder than like 5 bosses after him.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Sargillidan is going to dual-wield the corpses of Varian and Jaina in the final 7.3 raid encounter.
On the plus side, you can skip a bunch of bosses if you only need loot from a specific boss.
Damn just resubbed and EU token prices are insane
What do you need to do in order to make 86k+ each month for the token? I have 3 lvl 100s and I don't think it's enough. How many lvl 100s do I need
I have 5 moneymaking garrisons + my main, do cata25 HCs once a week on my main and have my money garrisons making crystals out of thin air. Slowly gaining money.
Azzurri
Member
Yea, that's why I said probably because I bet HS is pretty close or makes a little more now.
Anyways, they failed pretty hard on capitalizing on the movie release in early June. I think any moment they had with the movie will be gone 2+ months later.
Another thing, they must have some serious tuning left to do if the xpac releases 4+ months from now.
Yes
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I want to resub and get Legion so bad, but none of my friends play the game anymore
I want to resub and get Legion so bad, but none of my friends play the game anymore
Everyone comes back for the launch month.
I've spoken to people who came back for a few months in MoP & WoD who said they've no interest in coming back for Legion, and I believe most of them. Too busy with other games nowadays to bother with something as shit as current-state WoW.
Did just do another two CM's on Gold though. That was fun (albeit easy fun).
CarbonatedFalcon
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I'm thinking I might just buy the rest of my CMs. Don't know if I can be assed to finish them otherwise. Hopefully people don't inflate the price out the wazoo now that there's a date.
Yeah I don't know that we'll see nearly the number of people willing to drop $50+ to dabble in Legion, and I think there's a good number of people out there like me who will have active accounts due to tokens but won't buy Legion until it goes on sale. Providing the least amount of content for the highest price yet doesn't make people feel valued as customers. The timing is also terrible, right as school starts back up and there's lots of expenses and other things to do. Of course we'll never know, but it seems extremely likely to me that Legion will be the worst selling expansion on release by a long shot.
Which do you need?
jaundicejuice
Member
It will be interesting to see how many people actually do come back for Legion. Sincerely doubt it will be the impressive, short-lived spike WoD experienced at launch.
neurosisxeno
Member
WoD spike was because initially it looked so promising. It wasn't until you started playing that you realized it was rotten at its core...
jaundicejuice
Member
I could see a lot of people waiting to see what Legion's post-release support is going to be like before they commit to WoW again.
I have Legion pre-ordered so I'm in until the first major content patch at least. I'm going to use this time between now and Legion to finally wrap up Loremaster. So finish up WotLK (1 and 1/2 zones worth of questing left on my Shaman) as well as finally play through Cata and Mists once I'm done farming a few things for my Paladin. That way if Legion ends up being a shitter like WoD, I won't feel bad pulling the ripcord on my sub and bailing on the game.
I have Legion pre-ordered so I'm in until the first major content patch at least. I'm going to use this time between now and Legion to finally wrap up Loremaster. So finish up WotLK (1 and 1/2 zones worth of questing left on my Shaman) as well as finally play through Cata and Mists once I'm done farming a few things for my Paladin. That way if Legion ends up being a shitter like WoD, I won't feel bad pulling the ripcord on my sub and bailing on the game.
I'm going to take the way more cynical approach and say people never learn their lesson and will be back for Legion day 1. As big a spike as Warlords? No idea. To be honest they did a ridiculous amount of marketing for WoD I hadn't seen since like Wrath when they did those celeb ads. Dunno if they will put out that effort for Legion.