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World of Warcraft |OT7| Feel the hatred of 10,000 Murlocs
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You can make Draenor recipes from level 1. They don't have any unique stat benefits anymore, pick whatever you want. Might want to look up the Legion changes to professions before you choose though.
finalflame
Member
I'm considering jumping in the game for the first time, but really want to progressively explore the PvE content, instead of rushing to endgame. Is this still a viable way to play WoW as a new player?
Yes, the quests you do while leveling up were overhauled a few expansions ago. If you want to do raids and stuff at their original levels that will be difficult though.
finalflame
Member
I don't care so much about the non-endgame raids and such, I just don't want to get the game and immediately boost to 100. I'd like to have the classic MMO leveling experience, going through PvE content, seeing new areas, meeting new people, etc.
I figure with WoW being out for so long now, everyone in the game is basically just rushing through everything to get to endgame or whatever, but my favorite part about MMOs is the feeling of exploring the world and seeing the PvE content with others.
Yeah, most people just blow through the content and try to get to 100 ASAP. You'll see people out in the world still if you're on a decently populated server. Most grouping while leveling is done for dungeon runs, though. Quests and stuff are largely solo content.
jaundicejuice
Member
Some of the store mounts are really cool though
, especially if you're Horde
Novel Mike
Member
So after Thursday raid last week my guild basically fell apart again (third time this expansion). We've been working on Mythic Archimonde for maybe 3 weeks and haven't been able to burst it down to only get 1 doomfire and several people (our healers mostly) decided that they just wanted to bitch about everyone being bad all of the time instead of helping anyone play better and just in general negativitiy constantly which was driving people to burn out faster then we already were (I nearly fucking rage logged on Tuesday when someone said my doomfire damage was low when they don't understand how a fucking soul cap trinket works) so after several of us expressed to our GM about said negativity and bitchiness 9 or more people left (including all of our healers).
My sub is up in like 2 days and I seriously doubt I'm renewing it. It's far to late in the expansion to recruit people to actually finish out the expansion and down Archimonde as a guild and honestly I don't even care at this point. Almost all of the HFC fights are stupid as hell on mythic generally requiring certain classes on several fights and the dps output between classes and specs is far more unbalanced then ever before and if I'm being honest I never find any of the actual mechanics challenging and they just use far to many instant wipe mechanics.
My sub is up in like 2 days and I seriously doubt I'm renewing it. It's far to late in the expansion to recruit people to actually finish out the expansion and down Archimonde as a guild and honestly I don't even care at this point. Almost all of the HFC fights are stupid as hell on mythic generally requiring certain classes on several fights and the dps output between classes and specs is far more unbalanced then ever before and if I'm being honest I never find any of the actual mechanics challenging and they just use far to many instant wipe mechanics.
You'll see plenty of people with CRZ no matter where you are honestly.
Also most importantly worth mentioning is they recently did a bunch of balance changes/QoL improvements to the low level questing experience so it feels better now. Curiosity got the better of me (and the desire to do some zones I simply sped trough in the past instead of soaking in) so I've been occasionally leveling a dwarf monk and it's been fun. Must have awakened the same feelings in other people because I've actually seen a ton of people out there questing with no heirlooms.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
This is kinda true for me, but I do want to hit 250 at least since I'm only ~20 away. 300? Meh.
Spiritwalker
Member
holy shit FINALLY
yellow submarine
Member
I think I boosted the wrong character. Not enjoying warlock gameplay at all, I feel like a gimped mage. Filed multiple back and forth tickets with the GMs, but they refuse to undo the boost and give it to another character. Feels bad man.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
They're doing a trial period in legion where you can test out a character before you boost it.
But there's nothing wrong with warlock. They have as much usefulness as a mage.
Yeah, Locks and Mages are two of the highest DPS classes.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Case study for why they're doing the test drive thing in Legion for boosts. But you really should do more research if you're not sure you'll like something. Especially if you haven't played it at all before. They've no real reason to undo the boost, if they even can (it wouldn't be easy to do unless you hadn't played at all). Warlocks are totally fine by the way.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Add in a jewelcrafting level 2 hut follower mission each day and you're raking it in.
Funny, I'm feeling the opposite way with my fire mage, though according to my guildies fire's not really 'worth' playing til HFC 4 piece
Probably shouldn't have boosted it lol, the only class I'd never played. Shoulda picked shaman, lol.
If the mounts were 5-10 they'd sell like gangbusters, but I'm sure someone at Blizz has worked out the profit margins vs how much they sell for now.
I really want the bug one, because archaeology for the qiraji mount is a biiiiiitch.
This is Blizzard's biggest shortcoming, both in WoD and in Legion. Classes/specs should be fun to play, and that fun should be enhanced by gear. As it stands, a lot of classes/specs aren't fun to play, and having gear makes them decent as best. They should be decent/good to start with, and great with gear.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
You had me there until you said it's like that in legion.
It's not like that in legion, secondary stats scale nearly linearly so that specs can be balanced right off the bat and they won't have to be nerfed/buffed when new sets of gear come out.
It is like that for Prot Warriors. CD on SS & Revenge are so long that, without procs, we can be hitting devastate 3-4 times before hitting anything else. The most common defence of this I've seen is...
"Oh, but that can be fixed with haste."
SHOULDN'T NEED HASTE TO MAKE THE SPEC FUN! Should be fun by default.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Eh, some of it is probably my long melee-only history coming into play, and fire's relative lack of involvement outside of tracking pyroblast crits for combustion.
I should try to learn frost, but that would require changing out all of my crit gear for multistrike, lol.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Who's posed that defense though? Blizzard or fans?
The specs aren't designed to be reliant on gear anymore, so that's just how the spec is designed.
You have a completely different problem, you don't like prot warrior design in legion.
Fans. I see what you're saying.
Not sure how anyone could like a design where a flat-damage filler ability can be hit 3+ times in a row without anything else being usable.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
But I mean there's also still doing some radical tuning on the beta as of now. Demon Hunters got Eye Beam nerfed by 50% just last week.
Well Warriors have seen no changes for a while, so I'm not holding much hope. Don't care about numbers, as those will be tweaked... We just need another 1/2 abilities.
oh yeah?
Azzurri
Member
Considering Tanks are just destroying everything in PvP and Blizz hasn't done anything about it makes me a bit worried. Plus removing AoE from classes that already have little to none doesn't sit well with me. But I guess will see how it tunes out.
I'm probably gonna main a Rogue come Legion since Melee just dominate in PvP, being a caster is just no fun when melee have ultimate mobility and inst cast everything.
I'm probably gonna main a Rogue come Legion since Melee just dominate in PvP, being a caster is just no fun when melee have ultimate mobility and inst cast everything.
If it were one tank being a little OTT in PvP I'd be more worried, but the fact that pretty much all the tanks are ridiculously over the top will surely give Blizzard cause enough to nerf the shit outta them.
RoninChaos
Member
Do tell. I'm still trying to get to 250. It's driving me nuts.
Got a link to your SimpleArmory?
RoninChaos
Member
http://simplearmory.com/#/us/draenor/Roninchaos
The thing I don't get is when I log into that character if says I have 234.
Also, what's this I hear about changing your battle net tag? Zenax, I know you have yours displaying Zenax without the number. How can I do that?
Guardian Druid has had two offensive buttons for the entirety of Draenor - one on a CD that can be reset, and one that is infinitely spammable. It stacks a dot up to 3, but that's not exactly the most thrilling thing in the world. Then for snap cone threat you've got an infinitely spammable AoE. For me, it still doesn't get dull because if the rotation is simple, you can concentrate on making sure your raid doesn't get ganked and that you execute the movements, swaps, and your active mitigation as smoothly as possible.
It counts mounts your acharacter can't use. The Simplearmory one is spot on with what you need.
http://simplearmory.com/#/us/draenor/roninchaos/collectable/mounts
227.
+8 from stables (235)
+12 from tournament (247)
+8 from Kurenai (255)
+5 from Sha'tari (260)
Plenty of mounts to get with next to no gold spent.
What about people that can do both, though? Keep an eye on a more indepth rotation and still keep upto speed with boss positioning?
On the beta right now, Prot Warr kinda plays just like a slower, less involved Bear... I genuinely don't see the point in it.
I forget how you do it now but a week or so ago they offered btag changes. Not sure why it shows me without the number though, I still have a number in my name.
Yeah oh!
There was a presser event of sorts at Blizzard today with everyone who was from the premier last night. There's an NDA till Thursday at midnight.
RoninChaos
Member
I don't think I have it in me to grind the tournament mounts.
For the shatari and the kuranai, how long is the grind?
RoninChaos
Member
What's my name show up as? RoninChaos or my real name?
Eh...while there are NDAs in place until then, I've heard from a good source that its likely to be underwhelming.
I saw someone theorize that it involves this whole Facebook thing. Those at this summit thing are streamers and Youtubers, and the Facebook thing involves streaming...
Kuranai can be done in a few hours (if it's like Maghar). Shatari, I can't remember.
You show up as RoninChaos, to have someone show up as their real name you have to add them and then from the bnet app friend list right click on their name and click "Send Real ID Request."
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Sha'tari Skyguard is maybe a couple weeks.
Unless they changed something you can just grind mobs to reach exalted. Can pretty easily do it in one day.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Apparently there's a quest in Legion that gives you 33k gold.
It's a glitch.
It's a glitch.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Or that. I don't remember.
BTW anyone know if keys went out/got keys from the Wishpond givewaway?
Same. If it was at 60 bucks or something I'd seriously consider it.
I'd sell you my beta for a few store mounts. Damned automatic account flagging!
jaundicejuice
Member
Shat'ari Skyguard can happen as quickly as you want it to. If you want to stay sane, you spread it out over a couple of weeks. If you literally have nothing else fun to do instead, like rubbing your genitals on a rusty cheese grater, you can grind the rep out in a day. Killing mobs, getting that potion, killing shadow mobs, getting the scrolls to summon those rares/elites/whatevers over and over and over and over. Provided no one else is doing it too. Surprisingly, that area in Terokkar is pretty active. Even the area in Blade's Edge can be.