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World of Warcraft |OT7| Feel the hatred of 10,000 Murlocs
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Wow, this is really neat to see
and dat Morgan
Reminds me of Greg Kasavin's original GameSpot review for World of Warcraft, always love watching that https://youtu.be/j6idVDFNZJU
One point he makes that really was a big deal to me when I first started playing (and it's still applicable today tbh)
You don't get profession world quests until skill level 300, and mats are much more scarce in Legion, so it's worth considering the profession boost.
The Disc mechanic is a fun idea, but it's kind of like Glad spec where I don't know what they're thinking adding it because I don't know how you make it viable without making it ungodly OP. So it's either not good enough or way too good.
You'll have to try it out. I really dislike the new version, but there are some people who are big fans. It does seem pretty polarizing though.
I'm sure some people will like it but it feels way too finicky to me. Maybe with time it'd grow on me, but it felt like there were too many conditions I needed to meet to preform any specific action.
As interest in the game increases the price will most likely go up. I bought a bunch of tokens now because I don't see the price going down any time soon, although once Garrison gold is nerfed it's hard to know exactly what will happen with the token price.
The Shadow Mending drawback seems to be misunderstood. It ticks on the target until it has taken X amount of damage from ANY source. So an active tank should take little or no friendly fire. In practically all cases, Shadow Mending is vastly better than using, say, Penance with The Penitent talent.
I've been running a full-on Atonement spec: Schism, PW:S, and Purge the Wicked with Halo as my choice for L90.
You can get to 300 in mere minutes with wod shit though.
So what is the status of tanks for legion? I watched the preach vid a few weeks back where he basically said how much he dislikes how they've made tanking and isn't going to tank in legion at all. Just wondering how it feels, I'm probably going DK or warr for legion (fury and frost look awesome) so having a fun tanking off spec would be nice.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
PSA the Qiraji Guardling outside AQ should be spawning now, today or tomorrow depending on your time zone
Prices going up from increased player activity would not last very long, when people see the price of tokens go up other people see easy gold and try to cash in on that. Prices go in waves and when WoD was actually an active expansion those waves were pretty big compared to now (right now those waves are usually +/- 3k gold), the lowest point of all time was around 19k per token but just 2 days before that the price hit up to 27k gold. If 7.0/Legion actually brings a decent chunk of people back to the game (even just short term) prices might rise but they would be followed by a crash as well.
At the end of the day though I can't realistically see prices going up with more people playing the game (in the long term). Those people who quit WoD early on are not coming back to the game with disposable income to spend on tokens. They are probably poor as fuck.
Obviously this is on NA realms, just realized I should have mentioned that anyway though.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
regarding price of the token, i would think that when the expansion starts people will want to buy gold to jumpstart their characters in professions etc.
i feel like the token should go down considerably, but that depends on how high it gets before that happens.
i feel like the token should go down considerably, but that depends on how high it gets before that happens.
Yeah, but then you have to do WOD stuff
I mean, it's probably a thousand gold tops on the AH to max a couple professions. maybe a bit more idk.
Token prices have been generally trending slightly lower the last two weeks or so (after reaching nearly 50k in the US), presumably the summer effect kicking in. They don't seem to be dropping significantly though. I expect the midsummer event will push them back up slightly, and I can only see them going up again with the 7.0 event and Legion release, but that's hard to say. We've also yet to see what the gold flow is in Legion but generally leveling is a fairly rewarding process in the beginning. But that garrison nerf will hurt for sure, and anyone who doesn't buy Legion may as well quit come the end of August because there's not going to be anything paying for their tokens then. Long term I expect this time next year we'll be lamenting the low prices from this year, just as we're lamenting last year's low prices now. No matter what they do, mudflation is inevitable.
Yeah that's the conclusion I reached when I was hemming and hawing over buying tokens at 45k today. The gold is absolutely there while levelling, it's going to give a lot of people a bump. Garrisons are going away, but overall income from 'normal' sources is inflating as it always does, plus we're at a year of content drought right now, that's not going to happen again any time soon, prices should be going up on average with the xpac for sure imo.
Made a Human Prot Pally to slowly level up and experience Alliance quests with.
Well, it was mainly to use the movie transmog items, but there's one problem. Everything clips through the shield. My hair, my cloak, my elbows, and the movie sword all clip through it when it's on my back, and my shoulders clip through it when I'm holding it.
Blizzard pls
Well, it was mainly to use the movie transmog items, but there's one problem. Everything clips through the shield. My hair, my cloak, my elbows, and the movie sword all clip through it when it's on my back, and my shoulders clip through it when I'm holding it.
Blizzard pls
First off, I think that off specs and alts are going to be harder than ever to keep up. I could be wrong if it turns out that the difference between a fresh 110 and one with 4M Artifact Power isn't as profound as it looks. But, I'm figuring that it will be somewhat like live, where someone in BiS everything is about 10x more powerful than someone who just dinged.
None of the tanks feel as self sufficient as they are on live. DK is the one that may end up having just as much self-healing, but it's tricky to play now and it seems like it will only be more so in Legion.
Trying to decide which healing class to play during Legion and I'm having a tough time. Fistweave monks look super interesting but apparently they're scrapping that in PvE so that's a bust for me.
Looks like Discipline priests will fill that offensive healing niche now, and while I like the damage-dealing healer premise, the disc rotation looks fairly boring on paper.
Pally's proximity based healing seems interesting, and I like their new frontal cone AoE heal. I guess I'm leaning towards that so far.
..and the rest of the healers seem pretty homogeneous and boring. Are there any other unique play styles I've missed?
Looks like Discipline priests will fill that offensive healing niche now, and while I like the damage-dealing healer premise, the disc rotation looks fairly boring on paper.
Pally's proximity based healing seems interesting, and I like their new frontal cone AoE heal. I guess I'm leaning towards that so far.
..and the rest of the healers seem pretty homogeneous and boring. Are there any other unique play styles I've missed?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Quite possibly the largest waste of time I've ever done. Thanks E3 podcasts.
jaundicejuice
Member
Man, how. WoD Archaeology is so pointless and boring.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Archaeology has always been pointless and boring since Path of the Titans was cut, its just moreso in Mists and WoD. I think the Mists one actually looks worse tbh. The ONLY reason the WoD one is tolerable now is because of flying. Doing Archaeology without flying is pointless.
I guess I can try and become Best Friends with Nat Pagle now? Only fishing thing I havent done besides the garrison turtle mounts and WoD water strider.
Tomorrow I get the Qiraji Guardling pet outside AQ for World Safari and can finally do Midsummer festival, the last thing I need for What a Long, Strange Trip Its Been. I don't think I've ever been subbed during Midsummer. After that I'm probably just done with WoD outside of racking up money for Legion.
It's not and at least you get a title for it.
Robin64
Member
Quite possibly the largest waste of time I've ever done. Thanks E3 podcasts.
That was surprisingly easy for me compared to MoP (still need 3 pristines urgh kill me) because you can spam archeology missions and instant complete them with the right building. Also the fragments are reaaaally cheap.
Robin64
Member
I quite like the Legion LFR sets. Well, specifically the colours chosen, because they are the T19 models.
Though I hate whenever Paladin has a dress instead of legguards. Always looks fine standing still but goes silly and stretched during animations.
Though I hate whenever Paladin has a dress instead of legguards. Always looks fine standing still but goes silly and stretched during animations.
Lanrutcon
Member
The LFR sets are meh. Any set with small shoulders can go to hell in my book. I want to block out the sun.
Nudge on this.
Damn, you must really be out of achievements to chase if you're doing that.
Quite possibly the largest waste of time I've ever done. Thanks E3 podcasts.
Damn, you must really be out of achievements to chase if you're doing that.
The DH set doesn't even look like a compete set... it's like underwear, shoulders and a belt.
Parts of it are not properly rendered in that picture. It is also sort of a shirtless look where the solution for female models is "hmmmm....ahhh...ummm....hmmm....". It's one of the better sets for the tier though.
JSoup
Banned
Quite possibly the largest waste of time I've ever done. Thanks E3 podcasts.
Nice. I'm pretty close to finishing these too.
Decided to kill Galleon/Sha/Oondasta weekly on all my toons... Bad idea.
Out of interest, how many points are you on to attempt something like that?
Out of interest, how many points are you on to attempt something like that?
JSoup
Banned
Well, I'm attempting it for the same reason I did MoP archaeology and that would be for achievement hunting. But I'm currently at 19070.
At least MoP archaeology gave a cool title - I was glad to finally get mine! Draenor, though... Not sure I can be bothered doing all that for no reward, so credit to all you that can manage it.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Robin64
Member
I'm all for levelling dungeons, I think they are great. It's nice to have that choice. But I'm not sure I like that in Legion, there are mandatory dungeons. Having been questing through Azsuna, I now need to dive into Eye of Azshara to complete the zone and get the Pillar of Creation.
I'm sure it's easy enough, and I'm sure it will be fine, but that's not my issue with it. I think dungeons should be optional, full stop, and serve to enrich the zone they are in. I mean, if I'm not in the mood to do it (and I wasn't last night, when I got there), then my questing/story just stops. I can go elsewhere and start something else, but that's not awesome.
I'm sure it's easy enough, and I'm sure it will be fine, but that's not my issue with it. I think dungeons should be optional, full stop, and serve to enrich the zone they are in. I mean, if I'm not in the mood to do it (and I wasn't last night, when I got there), then my questing/story just stops. I can go elsewhere and start something else, but that's not awesome.
Jag
Member
Nice. I was friendly with one of WoW original programmers on another forum (has some items named after him) and he hooked me up with Betas over the years. Unfortunately he recently left Blizz.
What? How? Are you using crates to buy missions? I was kind of hoping to use crates to buy frags rather than go farm them. I still need a few arch toys and pets. Just can't get the will up to farm them.
BTW, today's maintenance was changes to rolling restarts.
JSoup
Banned
Hmm? You mean making the missions that grant fragments as a reward?
While I'm not crazy about some of the changes to the classes, I do like that they're pruning a lot of the abilities and they seem to be really focused on making specs seem unique. They might not be 100% successful, and probably irk some people by shuffling talents into trees that don't make sense (ambush on combat only now? ok), but I have to commend them on refining things.
For instance, I've dabbled in the death knight a few times, always leveling one up each expansion and giving up. Mostly because the class has (imo) been a complete cluster since inception. To me it has always seemed way too convoluted and cumbersome with abilities spread all over the place. It always felt to me like "hit all the buttons, especially the ones that light up" no matter what spec I was playing.
But after messing around with the PTR they've really improved the cohesiveness of the class. Builders, spenders and thematically it's so much more streamlined and fun (again, my opinion). It almost feels like they've taken some queues from Diablo.
For instance, I've dabbled in the death knight a few times, always leveling one up each expansion and giving up. Mostly because the class has (imo) been a complete cluster since inception. To me it has always seemed way too convoluted and cumbersome with abilities spread all over the place. It always felt to me like "hit all the buttons, especially the ones that light up" no matter what spec I was playing.
But after messing around with the PTR they've really improved the cohesiveness of the class. Builders, spenders and thematically it's so much more streamlined and fun (again, my opinion). It almost feels like they've taken some queues from Diablo.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
You need to leave.
Jag
Member
Interesting guide on how to quickly proceed to endgame in Legion.
I'm not in beta, so any information like this is helpful.
brb, printing gold.
I'm not in beta, so any information like this is helpful.
brb, printing gold.