Gunmonkey36
Member
Thanks for the responses. Game was already on the out and out for me, but if tanking stays like this I absolutely just can't. Really sad day 
Rip my glorious brewmaster days.
Rip my glorious brewmaster days.
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RoninChaos
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Designing shit in a bubble. That's been his problem for two expansions. Every single time they make decisions like this they're surprised that people object.
Tanked tonight on my DK. WTF. I feel like I'm made of tinfoil. 4 buttons. All the fun shit is gone. The changes are drastic enough that I'm thinking of just unsubbing. It's so bad.
Brewmaster has some fun tied to the artifact, but the spec we loved in MoP and WoD is very changed. I was extremely frustrated with the spec initially, but I've cooled off a bit and I'm willing to give it a shot with Mythic+ dungeons at least.
If you play it dangerously and let your hp fall below 35% to force spawn Gift of the Ox orbs it's interesting. That requires an artifact and the trait Obstinate Determination though, so you can't do this right now.
If you play it dangerously and let your hp fall below 35% to force spawn Gift of the Ox orbs it's interesting. That requires an artifact and the trait Obstinate Determination though, so you can't do this right now.
Just did a Mythic dungeon (with some less than geared players).
720 plate gloves drop *Shrug* Meh, I guess that's a disenh...
Wait a minute... The new personal loot? Oh that's right, I can trade these! Here you go buddy.
"Cool, cheers!"
No problem.
Damn, this new Personal Loot system is killer for PuG content.
720 plate gloves drop *Shrug* Meh, I guess that's a disenh...
Wait a minute... The new personal loot? Oh that's right, I can trade these! Here you go buddy.
"Cool, cheers!"
No problem.
Damn, this new Personal Loot system is killer for PuG content.
Said it since I got into the beta - Guardian Druid is amazing.
Rofl, they carried a fresh boosted mage of yours?
Guardian has been consistently praised in the beta so that isn't surprising.
Also, Prot Pallies do ridiculous damage in beta.
jaundicejuice
Member
There's no switching, you gain Archaeology at 20. It's neither a production nor gathering profession. Actually I haven't tried it in 7.0 yet, it's supposed to be a bit better now.
Edit: Beaten by a country mile. Helps to refresh before posting.
Some classes get their three major traits fastest in around 250-300k artifact power, while others take 600k plus.
HarryDemeanor
Member
So is it safe to delete characters after gathering transmog from them?
Outlaw Rogue tho
I heard it's awesome as fuck
This is the price we pay for the trees to sort of look like the weapon.
We 7 manned those bosses
Got a link to the full group you used?
Pretty cool even at 24. They nailed the pistol shots, and I really like the animation when your extra swing procs
The bug was hotfixed but it involved warlocks contributing to a single warlocks immolate (218m per hit etc)
Aha, that sounds pretty... Yeah, I've no words.
How can my guild still not have a good damn Warlock, by the way?! They're so rare.
A good Warlock, or a god damn Warlock?
A good, God damning Warlock.
Freeman76
Member
Man, if you think the loss of subs is due to much more than lack of regular new content i dont know what to say. It will be back up to its usual high subs soon, and then drop off again depending on how much long term content they add and how engaging the end game is. Its always been like that. So many people pay their sub and just moan about it, i dont get that at all.
Is M HFC now so easy that I could just hop into a pug and have a successful run? My DK is like 730 or something
You can just die in Valley of Spirits(or near the MOP portal in Stormwind) and use spirit healer/rez sickness naked and get them all that way. Resets the cooldown.
took me like 6 minutes tops
You can just die in Valley of Spirits(or near the MOP portal in Stormwind) and use spirit healer/rez sickness naked and get them all that way. Resets the cooldown.
took me like 6 minutes tops
Yeah...my prot warrior feels pathetic now. It feels like I have nothing to do. The new animations are amazing, and I'm liking fury, but I'm not sure if I'll be going warrior tank this expac.
Freeman76
Member
Mate never assume the complaints you read are the majority. You ALWAYS, every pre-patch, every Xpac, get the vocal minority who take to the internet to voice their displeasure because something isnt to their liking. The majority are enjoying the game as always, and dont need to throw their arms around over it.
I'm not even a person who can say I have agreed with everything they did. I unsubbed during Cataclysm as I really wasnt it feeling it then. However, there is a reason WoW is the undisputed king of MMO and has been for the last 11-12 years, and Blizz arent going to fuck that up now. For many people the new patch is great and brings lots of cool changes. The only concern I have is tanks are unhappy, which means long queues for dungeons, which of course Blizz will tackle as they want people happy, as happy people pay for subs. Some people are never happy, some of those unsub, some of them pay £10 a month to moan about what they dont like, let them get on with it but never feel bad that you dont feel the same as them man.
Im just happy usually when I resub I play literally like 15mins and go "yep still cba" and I wasted a minths worth of sub (or worse since I usually buy pre paid cards which are 2 months).
This time around Ive got some serious wow juices flowinh again. Im actually sitting at work thinking about playing it, about finishing my lock and playing my noobies hunter and rogue, but also wanting to try out the classes i have at 90 to see the changes.
Hell I may just get suddenly bored again tomorow who knows, but right its fun to feel this way again. I firmly believe you can have a steady fun super casual time with this game, I know I did in MoP where I got like 6 characters to max lvl (compared to 2 in Cata and 1 in WoD) and you guys saying tier is back in lfr has be excited to be casual again.
This time around Ive got some serious wow juices flowinh again. Im actually sitting at work thinking about playing it, about finishing my lock and playing my noobies hunter and rogue, but also wanting to try out the classes i have at 90 to see the changes.
Hell I may just get suddenly bored again tomorow who knows, but right its fun to feel this way again. I firmly believe you can have a steady fun super casual time with this game, I know I did in MoP where I got like 6 characters to max lvl (compared to 2 in Cata and 1 in WoD) and you guys saying tier is back in lfr has be excited to be casual again.
i dont see why you wouldnt do it this way either, they insta res you and you insta die?
also you can get rng fucked on the pamphlets so that 6 minutes turns into 20 for most people
you die near the mop portal in sw and they res you literally right on top of the doomsayer, its the fastest way no question
NotMyUsername
Member
I'm liking Enhance Shaman with these changes. I should probably poke around the talents more, though.
After a year+ off I got into a big guild and offered to run a low level through a dungeon of their choice. They chose Uldaman and on the way through Badlands I happened to get a Darkling Whelp or whatever those pets are called. That was a nice, random grab.
Did all the stuff to get access to Tanaan Jungle and have now started looking around in there. Seems like a good time. And today went from ilvl 646 to 664. Not too bad at all. And got two new mounts so now I start the crawl up to 300. I guess I'll have to get Legion. I'm currently at 253 mounts so it may not be too bad.
After a year+ off I got into a big guild and offered to run a low level through a dungeon of their choice. They chose Uldaman and on the way through Badlands I happened to get a Darkling Whelp or whatever those pets are called. That was a nice, random grab.
Did all the stuff to get access to Tanaan Jungle and have now started looking around in there. Seems like a good time. And today went from ilvl 646 to 664. Not too bad at all. And got two new mounts so now I start the crawl up to 300. I guess I'll have to get Legion. I'm currently at 253 mounts so it may not be too bad.
What about those of us that aren't Alliance scum?
NotMyUsername
Member
I've never used weakauras but is that one of those that tells you when things are procced and ready to use? I'm a bit rusty on names of abilities now but Lava Lash is the one I'm missing since it only highlights the little icon and doesn't have a screen decoration like the maelstrom proc for when Stormstrike or whatever is good to go. And I don't have anything close to a rotation at this point. I just mash Rockbiter and then mix in other stuff off of cooldown and do some Lava Lash when maelstrom is high but don't let it get too low so I can hit things off of cooldowns that need the new resource.
I honestly don't notice any of the new melee animations but the big lightning crash is great. And Rockbiter sounds good.
I also completely forgot about totems and haven't dropped a single one. I need my totem add on again as that was essential for me to use them.
Edit: Did they remove totems? I only see Earthgrab Totem. What happened to shamans!?
Valley of Wisdom. There's a doomsayer right across the pond from the spirit healer by the tauren camp.
You are a prince, sir.
Lanrutcon
Member
So Weakauras can do a number of things, warn you about cooldowns/durations, tell you when you're resource has reached a certain breakpoint, tell you when your buffs need to be refreshed. Basically the new Enh (when talented appropriately) have 3 buffs to keep up (Frostbrand, Flametongue, Boulderfist) that help your DPS by a ton.
And no, we don't have totems anymore. I think Ele and Resto got em all.
Well ret pally feels like absolute poop now. I'm all for getting rid of bloat but with this patch I now feel like I truly have just three usable skills, with the rest on my bar just waiting for my holy power to fill up. I especially feel sparse on abilities when the three that I can use have 4-6 second cooldowns, and if I spam them all I'm left scratching my bum until holy power is full ans then I use one of my powered abilities.
Definitely need to test more but I am just not having fun. Time to level a druid, I'm hearing great things about them and on my old server during wotlk I loved playing druid.
Definitely need to test more but I am just not having fun. Time to level a druid, I'm hearing great things about them and on my old server during wotlk I loved playing druid.
howzat? You can't use Consecration in your rotation?
I didn't pick consecration in my current build, but if that's going to be necessary just to be able to do something else when I'm waiting for cooldowns then pally is not gonna be my main this expansion.
Too much gear on screen. Very confusing.
I heard the next expansion name was leaked, Reavers of the North Gate
You don't get it - the spec is built to have as many or as little buttons as you want through the talent tree. If you want to be all passives, you can do that. If you want to push buttons, you can do that.
The base spec is five or so abilities yes, but how you want to play it is determined in the talents.
Like it should be.
NotMyUsername
Member
I just looked through talents again and I figured Boulderfist might be the way to go but right now I have Hot Hands in that tier. Why would Frostbrand be used, though? Is it dropping Lightning Shield for Hailstorm? Otherwise the damage from Frostbrand is lower than Rockbiter and Rockbiter generates maelstrom instead of Frostbrand using it. But the buff from Frostbrand seems largely pointless for PVE content.
Boulderfist is going to annoy me with how I have my keys set up since I'm at essentially my ideal amount of abilities for my current set up. But I suppose I could shift something around and get one more in there.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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So have you guys picked your main for Legion yet?
Going all in on WW, which is really surprising since I was dead set on Fury or Shadow.
Going all in on WW, which is really surprising since I was dead set on Fury or Shadow.
Lanrutcon
Member
Frostbrand without Hailstorm is pointless in PVE, yes. Boulderfist is amazing. Like, no-brainer good.
Your rotation should be something like: apply your 3 buffs (Boulder, Hail, Fire) and keep them up. Feral Spirit when it's up. Stormstrike and Crash Lightning when they're up. Lava Lash to dump Maelstrom when your buffs are up and SS/CL are on CD. Boulder to build Maelstrom if you don't have any.