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World of Warcraft |OT8| CITIZENS OF DALARAN
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coldflame23
Member
Newbie here, I don't play since The Burning Crusade. Is there any major quest/item I should do/obtain? Right now I'm doing Draenor quests and invasions with Demon Hunter.
Sadly there won't be another version of the movie, even though it seems Duncan wants to do one.
Duncan seems seriously bummed out about how it all turned out.
You should try and do Archimonde Heroic to get the Grovekeeper mount since that will be going away in just over a week.
Which do you have the problem with?
Orochinagis
Member
Tried the new healing shaman, I am gonna miss keeping the aoe ring indefinitely as long as you keep healing
I missed my chance at a set piece so many times because some fucktard rolled for a chance of warforged that never came...Happy with that change
jaundicejuice
Member
They upgraded server capacity for Legion launch.
Sax Russel
Banned
Did a clean WoW reinstall and cut ~15+ gigs off of it. Manage your files/patching better Blizzard, damn.
Yeah but Illidan is 'full' and Moon'Guard is 'high', is the difference between those 3 realms that big? I always thought they were pretty close.
jaundicejuice
Member
I need coffeee.
The server list has also been kinda borked since they upgraded server capacity.
Because we went to tokens for a reason: no one is happy when the boss keeps dropping paladin tier when you've got one or two in the raid while you've got several people missing their pieces. It still happens with tokens but at least you've got a 1/4 chance of getting the right thing.
Your master looter was shit, not the fault of the system.
The current scenario and some artifact quests currently.
Blizzcon baby.
RoninChaos
Member
So wait... instead of a token the armor just drops? So 4 pieces of shaman gear as opposed to 4 tokens that certain classes can use?
WHAT THE FUCK!?
Seriously, why can't blizzard iterate without over compensating? They are the fucking KINGS of fixing what isn't broken.
Star Falcon
Member
One of my favourite tracks too. They had it on the title menu for HotS not long ago when Chromie debuted.
If only the instance itself was a little more...streamlined.
where did you see this? dont remember them saying anything of the sort but i could have zoned out and missed it
nvm just noticed you said DH livestream which is older now
Trickster
Member
Alright thanks
About that here's the interesting interview with Duncan Jones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HD9MPXLTvU
Almost every master looter I've seen in WoD then. This shit was widespread. People don't only raid in a guild.
PUGs generally mean shit master looters by default
I hope whoever was talking was just fumbling with their words, because that is so so awful.
Making personal loot better is fine, but master loot shouldn't be terrible
pugs can't use ML in Legion anyway
I was in three different guilds in WoD, and all three would pug a healer and maybe some dps and then not give them trinkets and then kick them without a word when guildies showed up.
Every WoD PUG was 'tiers and trinkets on reserve', the shit got so out of hand that I can't blame Blizzard for cleansing it with flames.
Every WoD PUG was 'tiers and trinkets on reserve', the shit got so out of hand that I can't blame Blizzard for cleansing it with flames.
King Gilga
Member
That is the blizzard modus operandi.
PUGs generally mean shit master looters by default
True
Yeah that's a great thing btw.
Do we really want to break down why every single ability got removed? Most of them seem pretty straightforward.
Spell reflect is really neat, but how much does it belong on DPS warriors? Thematically it makes no sense, you just kind of raise up this shield from nowhere. Being targeted by a spell was a rarity, and having a reason to reflect instead of using an answer like pummel was something even rarer. How often would the reflect even provide a damage bonus over the buff you could get off pummeling? You needed Mass Reflect to really make much use of it, which rarely provided returns. Its uses wind up primarily being PvP (where you can still pick it up), and cheesing stuff like Challenge Modes. Instead the ability can be refocused to Protection where it belongs and boosted up to combat magic damage in a more general sense.
Intervene is really so similar. Extremely narrow use cases that thematically does not fit a DPS warrior at all. Part of the mess that WoW got itself into, particularly with Mists, was the amount of stuff shared not just between classes, but inside a class across specs. If you are a damage dealer, particularly one that takes more damage than anyone else, why do you have an ability to intercept damage on allies? Instead Warriors can find mobility elsewhere through stuff like Heroic Leap.
You miss a heal that doesn't need Bloodthirst? How many do you need? Enraged Regen is still there. Survivability needs limits. You miss Heroic Strike? Why does a GCD capped class need something extra to press after we saw what a nightmare it was with Gladiator? And maybe it's just personal preference, but the banner stuff just does not fit the aim of what a Warrior should be in WoW at all. They should not be buff bots. The arms race for middling raid utility had to end.
irfaanator
Banned
k, I'm firetross in game
german fansite vanion.eu had the confirmation interview according to reddit
King Gilga
Member
Spell reflect and intervene were some of the most interesting most fun spells a warrior had.
The fact that you're defending their removal just shows why the game has fallen so low.
The fact that you're defending their removal just shows why the game has fallen so low.
King Gilga
Member
I mean I've played for exactly one month this year and don't plan on buying legion.
I'm also the only one of my circle who even gave prepatch a chance.
So yeah it does show how low it's fallen.
tossssssssssssss
King Gilga
Member
Have they confirmed that it's kosher to use the holy buff for faster killing? I don't want to get banned right before legion...or at all.
They're not going to ban anyone for it, they even hotfixed it to lower the damage for lower levels.
Agree. Really dislike that token change for master looter though, it only makes things more annoying for guilds
Have they confirmed that it's kosher to use the holy buff for faster killing? I don't want to get banned right before legion...or at all.
I mean, you're clicking an item to get a buff, and invasions are supposed to make it faster to level. Blizzard isn't going to be like "yo, use it on lowbies", but they won't ban for it either.
The buff doesn't work on players anyway, so it's not like there's a griefing concern.
Sgtpepper89
Member
Hopefully they change the ML thingy when enough guilds starts complaining. I mean almost every boss in the Nighthold drops a tier piece, and top guilds wanting the chance of maximum optimisation gonna be pretty frustrated..
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Wow, you totally convinced me that I shouldn't miss things I liked about my main. Nice!
This whole time I thought liked those things but you made me see the light.
Death Grip is underrated
I saw some Horde player trying to reach a treasure on a tree (which the game actually lets you reach with the gliders that are already set up), but then he gave up trying to jump onto the tree and I was waving and following him for like 15 minutes until he came with me and I pulled him onto the tree after a few unsuccessful attempts
Edit: and now some Horde kills me as I'm trying to do a bonus objective. We need to wipe them off this planet.
I saw some Horde player trying to reach a treasure on a tree (which the game actually lets you reach with the gliders that are already set up), but then he gave up trying to jump onto the tree and I was waving and following him for like 15 minutes until he came with me and I pulled him onto the tree after a few unsuccessful attempts
Edit: and now some Horde kills me as I'm trying to do a bonus objective. We need to wipe them off this planet.
Personal loot solves no problems.
It solves the issue that the person could get SOMETHING before getting kicked from the group rather than getting kicked and getting nothing.
Spell reflect was super buggy or broken in dungeons, basically unheard of in raids, and requires aggro that you usually do not want. Its interesting elements show up in PvP, and it is still there. These are abilities that are interesting on tanks but not on DPS...which is why they were able to be buffed/played up for Protection once they were removed from the other classes.
Dragonblight is redeemed by the Keristrasza questline, which was gripping and heartbreaking.
It's fine. There was an "exploit" with it where it granted as much of a buff to a level 15 as a level 100 and instead of banning people for using that, they just put out a hotfix to scale the power of the buff to level. That means they know about it and that's what they decided to do about it. No danger.Have they confirmed that it's kosher to use the holy buff for faster killing? I don't want to get banned right before legion...or at all.
Sgtpepper89
Member
Didnt that zone have the questline with loads of cinematics and where you were saving Undercity or something like that. It was the only reason I replayed that zone on alts.