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World of Warcraft |OT8| CITIZENS OF DALARAN
- Thread starter ampere
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At least get Clique if nothing else. That lets you heal via combinations of modifiers and clicks on the party frames. I won't heal without clickcasting in some form in this game; every other way is just way less efficient. Note that other party/raid addons have this functionality, like VuhDo which is what I use.
How much rep do you need? Im at like 7k or something
You need 8000 into Honored to unlock the 9th quest line for the Good Suramaritan achievement, and the Suramar dungeons.
Oh ill get that soon then.
phoenix296
Member
I just make macros for all of my healing spells and put mouseover modifier on them.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
help
do i keep pouring all my effort into my 812 frost DK or do i level my warrior to tank
do i keep pouring all my effort into my 812 frost DK or do i level my warrior to tank
Well, Frost is currently dead last in terms of single target.
You mouseover healers are weirdos.
Aquavelvaman
Banned
I tried to use Clique but I found that it would break all the time, especially when switching between two specs that shared a lot of abilities. I ended up just making mouseover macros for all of my heal spells.
Me personally would never play a dk again after the cull. Go unholy till frost gets love. Warrior tanking is broken with ignore skill, and arms is a caveman spec that does good st damage.
NumberThree
Member
I'm ridiculously behind on Nightfallen, I'm not even close to honored with them yet. I just keep doing world quests instead of Suramar things. Instant rewards are too tempting.
Suramar quests give the most AP in the game, it's infinitely more rewarding than WQs
Aquavelvaman
Banned
Nothing is going to be as crazy as IP spam right now but bears are pretty good.
Using your frenzied regen at the right time makes a big difference. There are weakauras that will help you keep track of how much it will heal for.
Maximize your rage generation so you get tons of ironfurs.
Bank ironfurs and stack them for predictable damage.
One thing to keep in mind with bears is that their cool downs are amazing and they have a lot of them. Survival Instincts has two charges so if you're not tanking something where you think you're going to need both charges in one fight, feel free to use one on big trash pulls just to make use of the cooldown. Barkskin is a short cooldown that gets shorter with artifact traits, and the artifact ability is a pretty short cooldown that gets an awesome 25% leech buff with one of the gold dragon traits.
NumberThree
Member
Suramar quests give the most AP in the game, it's infinitely more rewarding than WQs
Yeah but the AP bar going up doesn't feel nearly as rewarding as upgrading a piece of my gear.
Lanrutcon
Member
So I think the WQs that give BOEs is a masterful design. Not only does it help the community at large gear up, it also provides a monetary incentive to do shit for pieces you would otherwise have ignored.
If WQs keep scaling with raid content, then I see no excuses for anyone not to keep up with the gear curve.
If WQs keep scaling with raid content, then I see no excuses for anyone not to keep up with the gear curve.
Yep, it feel super weird to me too. People that mouseover are weirdos that don't like things that I do.
... or something.
neurosisxeno
Member
I think mages should have more utility. The trade off in old(er) wow for having lower utility was that mages were almost always among the hardest hitting DPS specs in the game. That's no longer the case; mages are middle of the pack DPS wise but they still have only barebones utility (TW is the only major thing; remove curse is gone; spellsteal is borderline worthless in PvE; ice block is useful in specific encounters for specific things). I dunno what kind of suitably magey thing they could add though that doesn't intrude on the utility of other classes (not, to be fair, that blizzard have any qualms about overlapping utility).
Lanrutcon
Member
What kind of utility would you like? You already have better mobility, dps, interrupts, cc and defensive abilities than my Warlock. Would you like to be able to conjure healthstones? hmm? Summon other players?
Maybe you'd like a goddamn voidwalker to go with your goddamn snack table, mage.
They should summon pets! And each one should have a unique purpose, that will slowly become less and less unique/useful over the next few expansions, and then one of their specs will be focused on maintaining a buff on your summons, that will be mind numbingly tedious to play, while not doing all that much damage.
Oh wait I described warlocks. My bad. :<
doing a lot less stuff on my DK this time around. Did all of Highmountain (minus the bonus objectives) but Aszuna and Val I only did the main quest really for the pillar. Im still friendly with each rep anyway (well honored with highmountain) so thats enough for now. Ill do those other quests maybe when im in the zone and doing the world quests or something
Middle of the pack? I guess if you don't spec fire or something..
SV is a blast, a damn glorious blast. I played every iteration of SV since WOTLK (except Draenor) and I absolutely loved it and I love the new SV. The burst is amazing and the rotation is so busy that you don't even have time for the filler Raptor strike (which is probably one of the worst abilities in the whole game btw). Of course nothing matters now, but nevertheless I've been topping the meters too.
Screw the "right" spec to play, I'm going with fun this time around.
Screw the "right" spec to play, I'm going with fun this time around.
SV IS the right spec to play if you want to top meters as a Hunter.
Well I think Warlocks need more works than mages from everything I've read but I don't play one so I can't comment in more detail.
Arcane, but AFAIK even fire is barely in the top 1/3rd of DPS specs right now. Which is fine; I mostly would just like a bit more texture to the class.
Lanrutcon
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I was just venting at ya
but for reals: Fire mages are in a great place atm. Stack crit. Win.Not according to literally every guide ever. MM is the best for raiding, BM for dungeons and SV is shit and nobody wants a melee hunter. Fuck that noise
this motherfucker for the 8k+ nightfallen rep quests wants 1200 mana >_>
thats for my next withered run damn you
edit: oh wait its only one or the other? I still have the quest but I dont see it on the map anymore after I helped the other lady
thats for my next withered run damn you
edit: oh wait its only one or the other? I still have the quest but I dont see it on the map anymore after I helped the other lady
No it's both. The map marker just disappears for the 1200 mana one.
wtf...sigh off to wowhead I go
I mean, arcane has often had that spot as well, or warlocks, or rogues or hunters back in the day. Mages as a whole were legitimately awful in Sunwell also. (Just worse warlocks)
He's right where the couriers always are. I thought it was odd there wasn't an icon either once you talked to him the first time. Oversight for sure.
I'm showing my age here, but for the first three expansions mages were only top dos in two instances - fire mages in original Naxxramus with the stacking ignite and the first fight in th cho'gall instance where mages could spread ignite to everything. For most of vanilla and all of TBC mages were one of the worse dos in the game. Either because you had to spec frost as everything was fire immune, or because mages were nerfed off the bat at the start of TBC and that was left in place the entire expansion.
Again, showing my age!
Lanrutcon
Member
MoP Warlocks were good, I'll admit. WoD Warlocks were average (they had a small stint with Demo being badass, but that got nerfed quickly). Legion Warlocks are bottom tier. And before anyone comes at me with "The sims say Demo is good!" I goddamn double dare you to try that out in practice. Go run some Mythics alongside any spec that has burst damage.
Ignite stacking wasn't even actually anything insane, it just made your one mage that inherited everyones ignites look REALLY good...and then die horribly from having 4+ people's worth of threat. Meanwhile the rogues were doing their piddly 1,000 dps and not having any thread of pulling aggro ever. I mean, the only time I remember mages actually being bad was sunwell, but yeah most of the early wow damage meters were rogues/warriors/warlocks depending on when you're talking about.
Warlocks actually are reasonably fine though. The class is full of whiners. By the logic that we should be running mythics, Aff and Frost are actually awesome.