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[Haly]

The art is great though.

Red on black on black on red.

Tentacles.

C'thun painted red.

Cenarius painted red.

Fat Xavius.

5-6 identical looking dragons.

American furbogs.



Elerenthe Renferal is the only notable design and that's just another "not nerubians rly" design like the "fal'dorei".

 

[Lanrutcon]

So the consensus is that Emerald Nightmare is inferior to Highmaul and Blackrock Foundry?

Muuuuch better than Highmaul. I find it more fun than BRF, but that's because a lot of the fights there were stupidly biased (oh? playing a caster with no mobility? TROLOLOLOL).

 

[cdyhybrid]

Red on black on black on red.

Tentacles.

C'thun painted red.

Cenarius painted red.

Fat Xavius.

5-6 identical looking dragons.

American furbogs.



Elerenthe Renferal is the only notable design and that's just another "not nerubians rly" design like the "fal'dorei".

It's okay to not like things.

 

[Haly]

I had enough of red-black on red-black from Act 4.

Let's not forget the final boss room is literally featureless except for some dull fog textures.

 

[Xeteh]

Is it faster to just quest through zones hitting the side stuff or main line the story bits in each one?

 

[Rhaknar]

diablo has custom ui mods?

...or mods in general?

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Let's not forget the final boss room is literally featureless except for some dull fog textures.

Its underwhelming unless you look up, but thats what the Rift of Aln is.

 

[NumberThree]

Yeah, I'm not really happy with any of the mail sets for Hunters. I wanted to go something engineer themed but its goggles and weapons, none of the armor fits. So I just have some super plain transmog going (that I actually like) because I can't find a set that I like.

Ugh, I really want a good looking engineering themed transmog for my shammy to go with my favourite weapon transmog (Misplaced Servo Arm). I've been going with dumb low level crafted gear mostly, but it's not that great so I usually use a non-engineer transmog instead.

 

[Xeteh]

diablo has custom ui mods?

...or mods in general?

That is Path of Exile, not D3.

Ugh, I really want a good looking engineering themed transmog for my shammy to go with my favourite weapon transmog (Misplaced Servo Arm). I've been going with dumb low level crafted gear mostly, but it's not that great so I usually use a non-engineer transmog instead.

Yeah, its frustrating. You'd think there be cog/engineer styled armor with how many weapons/goggles there are but nope.

 

[Lanrutcon]

diablo has custom ui mods?

...or mods in general?

That's Path of Exile. Aka Diablo 2.5.

 

[Ark]

So the consensus is that Emerald Nightmare is inferior to Highmaul and Blackrock Foundry?

I really like the art for EN, even if it is all red-on-black. I also really like the Nythendra fight for some reason, we downed her on Mythic last night and I just enjoy that fight.

The rest of the bosses are largely lacklustre. Especially as a tank. My life in EN basically boils down to tanking adds when not tanking boss, or taunting on X amount of cooldown stacks.

 

[NumberThree]

Yeah, its frustrating. You'd think there be cog/engineer styled armor with how many weapons/goggles there are but nope.

Yeah, and hunters can have mechanical pets now too. I'd be fine with just simple overalls but both models that are in the game are cloth. Maybe we'll get a Gnomeregan raid at some point.

 

[Einchy]

Is it faster to just quest through zones hitting the side stuff or main line the story bits in each one?

Way faster to quest until you have the dungeon quest, do that and then head to another zone. The dungeon quests are worth a shit ton of EXP.

 

[dimb]

Seems crazy to say that Emerald Nightmare is better than Highmaul. EN is just a total mess. If you were making a list of the best raid bosses in the game would anything in EN even crack the top 30? Very forgettable fights that do not communicate visual information as well as the stuff in WoD. Presentation in Highmaul was just so much better where you're riding up the elevator into an arena to fight Kargath. That fight is so much easier to read for new players and so much more wild than Nythendra that it's just not even comparable.

Highmaul's low point is Butcher, but it is just packed with loads of cool stuff, and nothing there feels exceptionally painful. Imperator Mar'gok was probably too long in its early phases but the coordination required makes Xavius and really most everything else in EN look like a joke. Not only are the EN fights super forgettable but they aren't even very diverse. Very single target heavy for fights that are straightforward to begin with.

 

[Lanrutcon]

Seems crazy to say that Emerald Nightmare is better than Highmaul. EN is just a total mess. If you were making a list of the best raid bosses in the game would anything in EN even crack the top 30? Very forgettable fights that do not communicate visual information as well as the stuff in WoD. Presentation in Highmaul was just so much better where you're riding up the elevator into an arena to fight Kargath. That fight is so much easier to read for new players and so much more wild than Nythendra that it's just not even comparable.

Highmaul's low point is Butcher, but it is just packed with loads of cool stuff, and nothing there feels exceptionally painful. Imperator Mar'gok was probably too long in its early phases but the coordination required makes Xavius and really most everything else in EN look like a joke. Not only are the EN fights super forgettable but they aren't even very diverse. Very single target heavy for fights that are straightforward to begin with.

Highmaul started slow, then...er...continued pace...then had a brief highlight with the Mountain, then fell apart. Just thinking about Imperator or that fucking mushroom fight makes me want fall asleep. As mediocre as EN is, it's still miles better than anything Highmaul offered.

And just to be clear: imo neither of those raids cracks the top 50%.

 

[vocab]

I didnt like Highmaul. Mythic brackenspore made me puke. Also, not many people saw mythic chogall because blizzard cut highmaul short.

Highmaul felt like a raid from a different game. First raid to deal with "man we cant dps on the move anymore" and it felt like it.

 

[Fonds]

The only gripe I have with EN is that it's pretty much a hub with loading zones.
It just doesn't feel as good as say old Karazhan or Ulduar in the sense of exploring a vast dungeon/ castle which you can naturally progress through.

Besides that I think the fights are pretty fun and the aesthetic is pretty damn good.

I do really hope the Nighthold offers more of a dungeon crawl experience in that sense, since Trial of Valor will not.

 

[Lanrutcon]

The only gripe I have with EN is that it's pretty much a hub with loading zones.
It just doesn't feel as good as say old Karazhan or Ulduar in the sense of exploring a vast dungeon/ castle which you can naturally progress through.

Besides that I think the fights are pretty fun and the aesthetic is pretty damn good.

I do really hope the Nighthold offers more of a dungeon crawl experience in that sense, since Trial of Valor will not.

I hope Nighthold has a boss where the raid stands around talking shit and drinking, and the raid boss has to don a disguise and navigate through the raid to reach an arbitrary objective. If he lingers too long near us, we spot him and his disguise fall away. We then proceed to beat the shit out of him until he respawns 2 zones away, and has to trek all the way back. Every time we spot the raid boss, one of the Blizzard developers loses a toe to gangrene and we get loot.

I think that would be a good encounter.

 

[Moff]

I haven't raided seriously since wotlk, but I agree that EN is very boring. Super boring setting/design and the bosses are forgettable. The only one I kinda like is ursoc.

 

[Lanrutcon]

I haven't raided seriously since wotlk, but I agree that EN is very boring. Super boring setting/design and the bosses are forgettable. The only one I kinda like is ursoc.

Ok, but you're pretty much just coming off the best expansion ever with 2 of the most significant and unique raids every designed. Comparing EN to what is arguably the pinnacle of WoW will only result in EN looking shite.

 

[erawsd]

As a bitesize "intro" raid I think EN is fine -- I like it better than Highmaul but its def worst than MSV. Now if this was coming in the middle of an expansion or considered a "full tier" like the shitshow that was ToGC then I'd be a lot more critical of it.

 

[Fonds]

Ok, but you're pretty much just coming off the best expansion ever with 2 of the most significant and unique raids every designed. Comparing EN to what is arguably the pinnacle of WoW will only result in EN looking shite.

Dunno if I'd call Draenor the pinnacle of wow in terms of raiding.
It might be nostalgia talking but imho WotLK was absolutely perfect in that sense.

Revised Naxx, Trial of the Crusader, Ulduar, Icecrown Citadel... All major raids and unique in their own way.
Besides that we had Vault of Archavon, Ruby Sanctum, Obsidian Sanctum, Eye of Eternity and revamped Ony as bitesized raids...

Sure raids are flashier in terms of mechanics and graphics now... but I mean... c'mon thats quite the list...

 

[Rhaknar]

did you just call ToC a major raid?

 

[Fonds]

did you just call ToC a major raid?

Well perhaps the raids itself can be called bitesize yeh ... But the patch around it was amazing. The entire tournament camp, dailies, raids and rep were a worthy release imho.

 

[Rhaknar]

oh shit Blizzcon is this weekend? I thought it was next

 

[Mupod]

nightbane has better gear than heroic trial of valor (which isn't even out yet) and he's a yoke

not to mention kara trinkets are really really good even more so with the 30% amp from the chest (and some of the other stuff like the tank ring/neck, healer cloak)

Yeah the Eye of Command at 860 is easily better for single target than any other trinket I have. And we'll have Nightbane dead tonight, I'll probably burn a bonus roll just to try and secure the chestpiece to buff the trinket. Even though it's likely we'll get our first mythic EN boss this week.

Dunno if I'd call the speed run a joke though, at least for people not crushing it with mythic EN gear. But in 2 hours of learning we've got it down enough that we should consistently clear it from now on. Compared to learning mythic raid bosses that's a small time investment.

Just need to get better at dealing with those firelands portal mobs before the first crystal, and figure out why spiders randomly aggro from 40 yards.

 

[Shahadan]

The worst thing to me in Emerald Nightmare is that I can't see shit. Purple ground? Okay here is purple shit you shouldn't stand on. Red ground? Red zones of shit that'll kill you and make the raid hate you.

 

[Lanrutcon]

Dunno if I'd call Draenor the pinnacle of wow in terms of raiding.
It might be nostalgia talking but imho WotLK was absolutely perfect in that sense.

Revised Naxx, Trial of the Crusader, Ulduar, Icecrown Citadel... All major raids and unique in their own way.
Besides that we had Vault of Archavon, Ruby Sanctum, Obsidian Sanctum, Eye of Eternity and revamped Ony as bitesized raids...

Sure raids are flashier in terms of mechanics and graphics now... but I mean... c'mon thats quite the list...

Yeah, I meant Wotlk. Ulduar and ICC are 2 of the best raids in the game. Hell, I even like TotC.

 

[Pickman]

My guild made it to 4/7 last night and will easily get Igly tonight. Won't be there for it, but wishing them the best of luck. Killed 2 new bosses last night! Woo!

 

[Ark]

oh shit Blizzcon is this weekend? I thought it was next

Oh fuck. Will have to make sure I buy a virtual ticket tonight.

Edit: Arms artifact appearance is up in EU today! Fuuuuck work.

Also, quick question: How many healers should we be running for Mythic EN? We usually run with four but I'm wondering if the norm is four or five.

 

[Guhnmystro]

it only took my guild 3 pulls to kill H cenarius, I thought he was supposed to be much harder.

edit: any we are by no means a good guild lol, half of us are baked most times

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

Yeah, and hunters can have mechanical pets now too. I'd be fine with just simple overalls but both models that are in the game are cloth. Maybe we'll get a Gnomeregan raid at some point.

I tried putting together a steampunkish outfit for my hunter but quickly realised that wasn't going to happen, so went with the sort of outfit he might wear in the workshop rather than a 'my armour is made of machines' look. Sorry for the low res app screenshot:

I'm using the bronze mechanical spider with this set at the moment but need to go back and get the silver version for Hati.

 

[Fonds]

.... half of us are baked most times

Isn't everyone?

 

[Lanrutcon]

 

[Sarcasm]

Wait, how...I just got the fight 3 pets and I am donnneeee.

 

[Fonds]

Fucking awesome mount.jpg

Damn... I might just start getting into lvling pets... might.

 

[ElyrionX]

Never played WoW ever. Got a bunch of friends who played this at various points in the past years and recently they got back in at the start of Legion. I am thinking of joining them now as a complete newbie. Good or bad idea?

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

I got the snowfeather mount earlier. I see I chose poorly.

Unless somebody finds a similar exploit to the one for the timeless isle bloody coins I can't ever see me getting exalted with the hidden PVP faction tied to these mounts though.

 

[Sarcasm]

HOW guys howwwwwwww

 

[Robin64]

HOW guys howwwwwwww

A trick that has since been hotfixed, where you could switch between multiple 110s to get more than the one daily quest.

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

For the first week they were available you could summon a pet, do their quest, log another level 110 character, summon the same pet, do the next day's quest etc. since they're all account-wide. So since I have four level 110s I was going through the quests four times as fast as you're supposed to. They fixed that this week though. I have one mount, another hatchling nearing completion, one about half way through and one only a couple of quests in.

 

[Mupod]

Couple questions about Nightbane if anyone knows.

1. When you get another stack of the crystal buff, does it add time to your existing buff? Like Rad Racer or Outrun or something. Or does it just set it to 7 minutes or whatever number? If it's the latter then I need to dramatically speed up how I pull in Curator's room. If it's the former then we'll finish it next time with 3+ minutes to spare.

2. Once Nightbane is summoned could you not just have one player zone out and bring in someone else to sell them the mount? We'll definitely have buyers once we all have it...

 

[Sarcasm]

I am pretty much done with battling pets even though I have the 3 pet quests for each.

Screw pet battles. I could barely stay awake. I don't even care about mounts lol. I use the same one I have always used. I can't even believe I wasted my time pet battling.

 

[Lanrutcon]

I got the snowfeather mount earlier. I see I chose poorly.

Unless somebody finds a similar exploit to the one for the timeless isle bloody coins I can't ever see me getting exalted with the hidden PVP faction tied to these mounts though.

I'm an Orc Warlock. Seemed right to go for the green and purple mount.

 

[LogicStep]

Is that with AS or Hailstorm? It looks like your stat priority is basically in the right place since you have a lot of Mastery for 857. It's so hard to drop Crit from everything, and it's not really worth it. Would also be nice to know what trinkets you are using.

I'm actually at 861 now. I'm using Hailstorm. These are my stats now and my trinkets.

 

[Rhaknar]

good lord man, quote those images

 

[BolognaOni]

Well perhaps the raids itself can be called bitesize yeh ... But the patch around it was amazing. The entire tournament camp, dailies, raids and rep were a worthy release imho.

The real shame with ToC is that it cut short Ulduar, which is still probably my favorite raid ever. Huge raid with really entertaining mechanically activated hard-modes- and it was one of the shortest raid tiers time-wise because of ToC. Boo.

Oh and screw jousting, that was just annoying.

 

[LogicStep]

good lord man, quote those images

Woops sorry, on mobile, couldn't tell how big they were.

 

[ShinMaruku]

Console port settings are now nearly perfect.

Here is a little peek at how I play demon Hunter on pad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJxoyrdy0-c

 

[Xeteh]

I tried putting together a steampunkish outfit for my hunter but quickly realised that wasn't going to happen, so went with the sort of outfit he might wear in the workshop rather than a 'my armour is made of machines' look. Sorry for the low res app screenshot:

I'm using the bronze mechanical spider with this set at the moment but need to go back and get the silver version for Hati.

I tried something similar with the same chest/shirt combo but it looks dumb on females since the swashbuckler's shirt doesn't cover the belly.