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TheDrizzlerJ11
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firex said:
+ it's AV weekend, id hit 70 and farm it as much as possible won't have another chance for a month.
I wish I was that lucky =(
I gave it a chance, and we lost all the games. One we lost it after 41 minutes and got 121 honor for it.
I'm tired of the retarded horde that doesn't understand that GYs are important to win and that if stuff in our base is assaulted, they have to recall.
I gave it a chance, and we lost all the games. One we lost it after 41 minutes and got 121 honor for it.
I'm tired of the retarded horde that doesn't understand that GYs are important to win and that if stuff in our base is assaulted, they have to recall.
Ysiadmihi said:
i want to say patch 2.3 removed disarm immunity from the game, so ya ppl can disarm
most rogues are shadowstep (20/0/41), so none really have riptose anymore, so you don't have to worry about that
most warriors are bad, and won't disarm, so idk i wouldnt worry about it
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Lain said:
I camp out on the RH flag every game now. Disc Priest or BM Hunter, all I need is a buddy backing me up and their capping of that takes forever if at all. The Galv Wipe strategy leaves the choke either open or undermanned, and then D is running around putting out fires rather than having enough numbers to thwart the zerg.
Flesh Into Gear
Member
I'm thinking of making a fury war, but am I just going to get asked to tank constantly? I used to tank with my paladin and I have no problems doing it occasionally, but i'm wondering if i'll have problems getting into a guild later on because of it.
Flesh Into Gear said:
you can tank as any warrior spec really, if you want a spot in most 5 mans or heroics, get used to tanking, cuz you will be doing it
now granted fury warriors are awesome dps at 70 when they have like black temple gear and shit, but i wouldnt worry about that if i were you
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Man, I'm on the nightfall battle group and us horde used to always win av, ever since the last patch we rarely win.. been doing a lot of premade AVs though for the past few days and winning 500-600 honor in less than 11 minutes fucking owns.. even when we let alliance win we still make more honor than them by like 200+
I've won a SINGLE av since starting playing again. Playing as horde, on my old server we used to win almost every time. Now it just seems the alliance jump the horde defenses and cap the GY within 5 mins, and kill the boss in 5 more. Horde meanwhile are fighting to cross the bridge and then boom, av is over. Not really fair IMO :| they have to fight maybe 5 or 6 guards and we have to fight tons.
krypt0nian
Banned
We've been walking through the Horde AV's tonight. Even a premade fell to us tonight.
Lots of honor for my welfare epics!
Lots of honor for my welfare epics!
krypt0nian
Banned
speedpop said:
Damn right.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
5 hours into my premade av now and im at 10.5k honor. I didn't make it into a few games though cause of the addon.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
speedpop said:
It's because the mechanics of Warrior PvP don't really require it at a basic level anymore. It used to be that Disarm was the shit, and Overpower was a huge amount of the damage. With changes to Rage generation values, Imp Intercept with MS, and other factors, its only for Reflect macros for most really. The high-end Intervene funny business is above this, of course.
SatelliteOfLove said:
no
disarm wasnt really used at lvl 60 because most serious warriors or rogues either had stronghold gauntlets or bloodfang gloves
so disarm has always been something that was used in rare occassions, like seeing that warrior in flameguard gauntlets
and if you are specced 33/28 with no tactical mastery its not usually worth switching stances to disarm unless u are being FF
if you are specced for TM, then disarm is great utility for assisting your healer and what not
but ultimately disarm is just utility, its not gamebreaking
and it always seems that when u want to disarm someone, he parries or dodges, so ultimately you waste a lot of rage for nothing
ToyMachine228
Member
The Horde premades in my Battlegroup are so stupid...They turn AV into a 50-minute battle and finish with 500 bonus honor. Grats, in normal 15 minutes AVs, both teams will leave with 300-400 or more, especially on AV weekend. Where is the logic here?
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Woot made enough honor yesterday for my bonegrinder and I slapped my executioner on it. Today I'm going for battlemaster's determination.
ManaByte
Gold Member
border said:It was a pretty fun night for my guild. We raided Ironforge, Darnassus, Exodar, and Stormwind. We killed every faction leader except the bishop dude in SW. They were only worth about 50 honor each, but it was cool since I'd never done anything like that in my 3 years of playing. They really oughtta make daily quests to go kill leaders :lol
Surprisingly none of the faction bosses were that hard, except Bronzebeard.....and that's only because we probably spent 15 minutes regrouping in Deepraum Tram and gave the allies enough time to put together a good defense. When we got to Bronzebeard we wiped because they were so many allies and spawned guards that everyone lagged out. We waited around for the allies to disperse, rezed simultaneously, and murdered him. Then we stayed for a bit to kill anyone foolish enough to enter the room, and finally ported out to Org.
Not a lot of bitter tears, but this was nice to hear:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103826496&sid=1
My friends were in middle of Onyxia attunement when the raid happened. They've been waiting for Bolvar to respawn for about an hour now. GG.
Alliance on Daggerspine tried to avenge this today.
They're so badass...they raided Tarren Mill and held it most of the afternoon.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Archimonde is a bass-ackwards fight; the less you do the better. It's also more like BG healing than any other fight Ive seen.
Pre-BC: check for dark red gloves on rogues, stronghold's color on warriors, or Crusader going off. Now, like I said, it's different.
yacobod said:
Pre-BC: check for dark red gloves on rogues, stronghold's color on warriors, or Crusader going off. Now, like I said, it's different.
Flesh Into Gear
Member
ManaByte said:
I'm not sure if that's what it was about. A ton of Horde raided Southshore friday and demolished me and the like 6 other defenders there. :lol I think this was the response to that. Do you have a character on Daggerspine, Mana? We should meet up for hugs <3
Sigh, I have suddenly lost motivation to play. I hit 70 with my holy pally a couple of weeks ago, completely by accident. It was too easy to level, I haven't even been trying to gain exp recently; I have just been messing around and completing all the 60-69 dungeons as a three man (me, a rogue and a frost-mage).
So once I hit 70, I thought that I would quickly attempt to get all of the 70 pvp gear. I already had enough honour to get 4 pieces, and I had enjoyed pvping on our server (Auchindoun) so far so I didn't mind the 'long grind' too much. What is bugging me at the moment is the attitude of these level 70s.
As soon as a battle starts it's "okay I am taking control" and then someone else says "no I am going to be leader", and that there is the first argument. Then during the game we get the usual "omfg you are all n00bs", except in much worse context - even if we are winning by miles. Yesterday I got a "omfg you are such a n00b healer", even though I regularly top of the healing ranks and spamming heal is quite literally all I do in bg.
I find myself wandering around outside shattrath, looking in at the crowd next to the battlemasters but being too chicken to get involved.
Gaf, help my poor broken wow-heart!
So once I hit 70, I thought that I would quickly attempt to get all of the 70 pvp gear. I already had enough honour to get 4 pieces, and I had enjoyed pvping on our server (Auchindoun) so far so I didn't mind the 'long grind' too much. What is bugging me at the moment is the attitude of these level 70s.
As soon as a battle starts it's "okay I am taking control" and then someone else says "no I am going to be leader", and that there is the first argument. Then during the game we get the usual "omfg you are all n00bs", except in much worse context - even if we are winning by miles. Yesterday I got a "omfg you are such a n00b healer", even though I regularly top of the healing ranks and spamming heal is quite literally all I do in bg.
I find myself wandering around outside shattrath, looking in at the crowd next to the battlemasters but being too chicken to get involved.
Gaf, help my poor broken wow-heart!
Flesh Into Gear
Member
ManaByte said:
we can still give hugs <3
Do not listen to anyone who plays WoW. The game has one of the worst communites ever. Don't let it get to you. When BGs suck I tend to put on my King Leonidas gear and run around screaming at people.
Sybari said:Sigh, I have suddenly lost motivation to play. I hit 70 with my holy pally a couple of weeks ago, completely by accident. It was too easy to level, I haven't even been trying to gain exp recently; I have just been messing around and completing all the 60-69 dungeons as a three man (me, a rogue and a frost-mage).
So once I hit 70, I thought that I would quickly attempt to get all of the 70 pvp gear. I already had enough honour to get 4 pieces, and I had enjoyed pvping on our server (Auchindoun) so far so I didn't mind the 'long grind' too much. What is bugging me at the moment is the attitude of these level 70s.
As soon as a battle starts it's "okay I am taking control" and then someone else says "no I am going to be leader", and that there is the first argument. Then during the game we get the usual "omfg you are all n00bs", except in much worse context - even if we are winning by miles. Yesterday I got a "omfg you are such a n00b healer", even though I regularly top of the healing ranks and spamming heal is quite literally all I do in bg.
I find myself wandering around outside shattrath, looking in at the crowd next to the battlemasters but being too chicken to get involved.
Gaf, help my poor broken wow-heart!
I just don't even look at BG chat, there's never anything useful there. Run instances! Or just screw it and spec shockadin or ret and go on the offensive in BGs.
Flesh Into Gear said:
Tamanon said:
:lol The prospect of my doing either of these things made me chuckle, thank you.
Hey Weenerz! Hawt belfs are always welcome on Auchindoun ~ especially pallys! Ofc, I am smelly horde also. Congrats on level 24
If I don't see you on before, you should msg me if you need any help with anything ^.^edit: oh, my character name is the same as my username btw, Sybari.
Flesh Into Gear
Member
Tamanon said:
Ret was a lot more fun when barely anyone was spec'd into it. I'd run up on some mage and they'd ignore me, probably thinking "ret lol". Makes 2 shoting them much easier :lol
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Is there any class that most people pretty much all agree is fun at 70 in pvp? So far I find my rogue, mage, warlock and priest extremely boring in 70 pvp. My new 70 warrior is fun but he's only been 70 for a week so he's on a long honor grind for now. I need to have another toon to level for when I can't stand anymore bgs every now and then. I was thinking about leveling an enhancement shammy but then when I looked at the stats and noticed that at 70 they pretty much have to be elemental to be great at pvp. My other choices are pally, hunter and a druid.. I dont really care about which is fun to level nearly as much as I care about how fun they are in pvp and bgs at 70 ><
pally was the most boring class for me ever in pvp. ret = snore against any good dps since they will kill you (maybe better after 2.3 though because I haven't played my pally since 2.2) and holy is the real pvp spec for a pally anyway, and it's boring shit. If you want to do arena then the hunter is probably weaker than most other classes, but in BGs they are strong since they can generally start every single fight with the first hit. I think mostly I just hate running into them because of arcane shot's dispel bullshit against my earth shield.
Sybari said:Sigh, I have suddenly lost motivation to play. I hit 70 with my holy pally a couple of weeks ago, completely by accident. It was too easy to level, I haven't even been trying to gain exp recently; I have just been messing around and completing all the 60-69 dungeons as a three man (me, a rogue and a frost-mage).
So once I hit 70, I thought that I would quickly attempt to get all of the 70 pvp gear. I already had enough honour to get 4 pieces, and I had enjoyed pvping on our server (Auchindoun) so far so I didn't mind the 'long grind' too much. What is bugging me at the moment is the attitude of these level 70s.
As soon as a battle starts it's "okay I am taking control" and then someone else says "no I am going to be leader", and that there is the first argument. Then during the game we get the usual "omfg you are all n00bs", except in much worse context - even if we are winning by miles. Yesterday I got a "omfg you are such a n00b healer", even though I regularly top of the healing ranks and spamming heal is quite literally all I do in bg.
I find myself wandering around outside shattrath, looking in at the crowd next to the battlemasters but being too chicken to get involved.
Gaf, help my poor broken wow-heart!
WoW's community is so fascinating to me, I'm hard pressed to find a more snarky, elitist group of people.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Stealth edit instead of a whole new post.. I think instead of starting a 6th damn 70 I need to just pick one of my other 4 70s to work on when I'm not in the mood for MS\Spamstring..
I really can't decent which to work on.. theres either a frost mage which is fun but when I'm on him I just feel like why play this when I could be a stronger caster class..aka my lock.
But when I'm on my lock I'm sl\sl spec since it's the only pvp spec thats worth specing anymore but I find it hella boring...
Then theres my rogue which I can only stand mutilate on but it pisses me off in arena and bgs getting told i'm not behind the enemy when I am and I scream...and finally my disc priest who I actually love healing in bgs with when I'm in the mood but shes a female be thats as white as c an be with lots of lipstick and looks like a fucking hooker in her s1 gear.
I really can't decent which to work on.. theres either a frost mage which is fun but when I'm on him I just feel like why play this when I could be a stronger caster class..aka my lock.
But when I'm on my lock I'm sl\sl spec since it's the only pvp spec thats worth specing anymore but I find it hella boring...
Then theres my rogue which I can only stand mutilate on but it pisses me off in arena and bgs getting told i'm not behind the enemy when I am and I scream...and finally my disc priest who I actually love healing in bgs with when I'm in the mood but shes a female be thats as white as c an be with lots of lipstick and looks like a fucking hooker in her s1 gear.
BigJonsson
Member
Instances are starting to get boring
Maybe its time to start doing PVP
Maybe its time to start doing PVP
I think the main problem with trying to play a Shaman premade is the fact that there's so many buttons and it can get quite overwhelming.DarkAngelYuna said:
Not only do you have countless spells, including rank 1's (earth and frost shock) to make yourself more viable, but you've got at least 5-7 totems that you can use. I even used Stoneclaw a few days ago on the PTRs because I was dueling a Rogue who would hit my totems regardless of what they were.
As for skill rotations.. I don't really think there is one with Shaman. I mean you have the blast DPS boom of an Elemental through Nature's Swiftness & Elemental Mastery coupled with Chain Lightning or Lightning Bolt... and maybe the sense that you need to use Frost Shock and Earthbind totem to good effect as Enhancement.
But overall Shaman seem to be a "play in the moment and adapt as best you can" type of class due to their countless abilities irregardless of talent spec. You don't control what happens at the outset (like you would a Rogue, Hunter, Mage, Warlock or even Druid), yet the best Shaman in the world is one that stands their ground and weathers the shitstorm, pumping out abilities and spells that are most suited to what is happening around them.
I can't count the amount of times I've had to sacrifice an Earthbind totem when I see a Priest run into a group of players and I immediately slap down Tremor totem nearby because I know a Psychic Scream is about to come off. Things like that is what makes the Shaman.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
For the moment I'm enjoying my frost mage I quit the same week he dinged 70.. so he only has 1 piece of pvp gear and the rest is lvling crap. I'm having fun trying to get shatter combos before they break free :lol
:lolI think it's mostly fun playing a shaman in pvp just trying to react to every situation. In my case I almost always get jumped by cocky rogues so I drop poison cleansing totem and earthbind and let my earth shield keep me alive while I either kite them or try to stay in front of them and NS heal if it gets really bad. Or drag them into a group of other horde so we can all get a free HK.
although I admit, it's chaotic as hell trying to heal in a BG. even AB/EotS/WSG are a bit chaotic (well, ok, not WSG since I just stay in the flag room on defense) simply because I don't have any like crazy raid heal monitoring addons, so I gotta do it manually.
although I admit, it's chaotic as hell trying to heal in a BG. even AB/EotS/WSG are a bit chaotic (well, ok, not WSG since I just stay in the flag room on defense) simply because I don't have any like crazy raid heal monitoring addons, so I gotta do it manually.
If you have thin skin you should probably get different gear and switch to a non-healing spec. Healers are the first to be blamed for everything that goes wrong.
I dunno why healers would wanna PUG battlegrounds anyhow. It seems to me that the attraction to the role is helping friends complete a prescribed strategy. In a PUG BG you're not with friends and there is no prescribed strategy.
I dunno why healers would wanna PUG battlegrounds anyhow. It seems to me that the attraction to the role is helping friends complete a prescribed strategy. In a PUG BG you're not with friends and there is no prescribed strategy.
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