what about transferring a character that isn't level 70 yet?CassSept said:The problem with PvE -> PvP transfer is that leveling on PvP server wouldn't make any sense. It takes way longer and is way harder to level up on PvP server, especially in mid-20s and late 30s/early 40s range when you have to get through Hillsbrad and STV (nesingwary camp ganking ugh)., so that would be just unfair to those who leveled up on PvP serv...
This argument is dumb because you can just as easily level up on a low-pop pvp server without any issue and then transfer to a "real" pvp server if your goal is just easy levelling. It's a dumb restriction and that doesn't even make any sense when you take the case of a player levelling up on a pvp server, deciding to transfer to a pve server, and now being restricted on ever going back to a pvp server.Mr Pockets said:I never understood why people want PVE to PVP transfers.
I don't see Blizz ever allowing it, defeats the purpose of a PVP server. Leveling up in a pvp environment is the point.
Transfering a fully made character from PVE to PVP is the same as buying gold IMO.
Lazy.
And no...I am not one of those so called "elitists"
have you ever had a PvE character that you wanted to transfer to a PvP server so you could play with friends?Mr Pockets said:I never understood why people want PVE to PVP transfers.
See my post above. Blizzard only need to place a restriction that characters at 67 and under will be able to transfer. When WotLK hits, make it 68 or 70 and under. that way you're forced to level up through a big chunk of world PvP content. simpleMr Pockets said:I don't see Blizz ever allowing it, defeats the purpose of a PVP server. Leveling up in a pvp environment is the point.
... your opinion is WRONG.Mr Pockets said:Transfering a fully made character from PVE to PVP is the same as buying gold IMO.
it's easy but tediousHero said:If leveling is so easy to do then stop bitching about not being able to transfer on a PVP server and level a new toon.
Hero said:Earn your stripes.
As a guy who has never leveled a PvE toon past level 10, I can say that I pretty much don't give a fuck if someone wants to transfer a character from PvE to PvP.Hero said:If leveling is so easy to do then stop bitching about not being able to transfer on a PVP server and level a new toon. Especially considering how they made 1-60 easier to level, it's pretty obvious that Blizzard has no intents on PVE->PVP server transfers except for extreme circumstances. There'd be too much backlash. Earn your stripes.
Where can I see Horde/Alliance ratios per server?Alex said:Blizz is apparently allowing PvE to PvP transfers on an Oceanic transfer, Alliance only, to fix an imbalance. I personally dont care, but maybe reading some of the assured meltdown will blow some idle moments at work tommorow.
edit; holy fuck, I see why they're doing it though:
Horde 16,111 (95%)
Alliance 874 (5%)
If I worked at blizzard, I would put fucking tumbleweeds into Alliance towns on that server for the hell of it
Where can I see Horde/Alliance ratios per server?
Cool, thanks! I wonder if it's an advantage or disadvantage to fun to be in the majority. You get ganked less often but you have less players to engage...Alex said:http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php
It's not 100% accurate, like Blizzard always whines when WCR is sourced, but it's not too far off I assume. I've always found it to be pretty much correct, especially when using the tool/addon on their site to take an active census.
Also, I like Humans!
How often do they add new servers? Is there a way to tell how old a server is? Does it matter? Are the biggest pros on the older servers?firex said:I think if I played alliance I would be a gnome, dwarf or draenei. even though I think draenei are the most retarded race lore-wise since it literally required retconning like all of the biggest warcraft villains.
honestly the race I hate the most is blood elves. I think they've already become the most popular horde race by far even on my old-ass server.
Scrow said:it's easy but tedious
and i already earned my stripes getting to 70 on a pvp server before
besides, like i already said. there's plenty of chances for people to earn their stripes from 70-80 if blizz allows it for WotLK.
I've been through all that and more. On both the giving and receiving ends. Multiple times.Hero said:There's more to "earning" it than participating in world PVP while leveling in the new zones. You obviously never experienced the frustration of trying to zone into an instance where a max level character of the opposite faction was powering his friends alts and was steamrolling through your own party at the meeting stone.
You must be one of those elitists. Hi.You're entitled to your opinion dude, but Blizzard's stance hasn't changed since release and it doesn't look like they're going to. QQ.
Alex said:http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php
It's not 100% accurate, like Blizzard always whines when WCR is sourced, but it's not too far off I assume. I've always found it to be pretty much correct, especially when using the tool/addon on their site to take an active census.
Also, I like Humans!
you obviously don't know what you're talking about. it has happened, i got over it.Hero said:You obviously never experienced the frustration of trying to zone into an instance where a max level character of the opposite faction was powering his friends alts and was steamrolling through your own party at the meeting stone.
certainly won't change if no one debates it. which is why i'm here.Hero said:You're entitled to your opinion dude, but Blizzard's stance hasn't changed since release and it doesn't look like they're going to. QQ.
You are one of those people aren't you?firex said:If they let every race be every class, I would finally have a high level rogue since I'd be playing a tauren rogue.
Scrow said:you obviously don't know what you're talking about. it has happened, i got over it.
certainly won't change if no one debates it. which is why i'm here.
i understand where they're coming from too, i just don't think it's a good enough reason.Son of Godzilla said:Granted, you'd still have to deal with some of the bullshit that is the latter, but I can kinda understand people being butthurt over it.
I'll agree with you on one condition.Alex said:No one agrees with me, but I really wish they'd tear down the wall and let Horde and Alliance play together. I don't care how they develop around it, I'm just sick of having a server where I can't play with 50% of the people.
Of course, I also wish they'd let every race play every class. I hate this restrictive bullshit. LOL DRAENEIS CANT BE WARLOCKS OR ROGUES, THAT'D BE UNSAVORY. BUT OH HERE, HAVE A DEATH KNIGHT.
Also, this! O:<firex said:If they let every race be every class, I would finally have a high level rogue since I'd be playing a tauren rogue.
I'd just want to play classes that break all the ideas of like, what that race/class combo is about! gnome druid, tauren rogue, undead/troll/orc paladin... who am I kidding, though, I'd just find the class that has the craziest shoulder armor for their different sets and then make an orc of that class.Son of Godzilla said:You are one of those people aren't you?
But yea, troll pallies and gnome shaman. Should have been done long ago.
Leveling up on a PvP server *IS* kind of obnoxious. And having to deal with shit like Isle on a constant basis *IS* really fucking obnoxious. Granted, you'd still have to deal with some of the bullshit that is the latter, but I can kinda understand people being butthurt over it.
Alex said:No one agrees with me, but I really wish they'd tear down the wall and let Horde and Alliance play together. I don't care how they develop around it, I'm just sick of having a server where I can't play with 50% of the people.
Of course, I also wish they'd let every race play every class. I hate this restrictive bullshit. LOL DRAENEIS CANT BE WARLOCKS OR ROGUES, THAT'D BE UNSAVORY. BUT OH HERE, HAVE A DEATH KNIGHT.
But imagine if you could dick over everyone!Kletian said:I don't necessarily agree with tearing down the walls (I like dicking over Horde players on quest mobs/nodes )
border said:Affliction warlocks should be drain-tanking until at least their 50's. At some point you get enough dots so that all of them applied will kill a mob while it's Fear'ed, but that doesn't happen for a while.
paaronormal said:Warlock's lvl 48. I really think I could do it now, but my level 30 gear and whopping 12 spell damage is probably the thing holding me back (thanks AH gougers on Deathwing!). UA will definitely help a lot, too.
Richiban said:Big fight in my LFG channel last night as to what sort of DPS/Damage/Crit you should be at when you run Kara.
There was a faction of people who were convinced if you don't have 1700AP and at least 30% crit as a DPS, you're pretty much useless.
What have you guys seen on your Kara runs.
After respeccing, I think I'm at about 1300AP, 124 Hit Rating, and 24% crit but I'm not done getting all the stuff I want before I join a raiding guild. I have done a bit of Kara a few times (Survived Prince and Netherspite, but Aran kicked the group I was in to the ground..."I WILL NOT MOVE DURING FLAME WREATH") and I seemed to be doing OK DPS-wise, but really, are those above stats useless?
Tamanon said:http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
Mounts at 30! Cost reduced to 35g. That's awesome, because 30 is when you start getting quests farther apart.
30 to 40 is definitely one of the lowest points for leveling. The reduction in cost will also really help new players.Tamanon said:Mounts at 30! Cost reduced to 35g. That's awesome, because 30 is when you start getting quests farther apart.