Angry Grimace said:
wat
See the above post; the fact the overall encounter takes the same amount of time doens't negate that you're making it 3x harder for the tank and healer by refusing to follow the kill order.
Umm no wat to you my friend, and get it right the overall encounter doesn't take the same amount of time, it takes LESS time to group them and AE them down. Thats the freaking
POINT. So long as theres nothing wrong with your tank (I.E. he can handle building proper AE threat) and theres nothing wrong with your healer (He can support the damage the tank is taking) then there is NO REASON NOT to want to get rid of the trash faster.
Oni Link 666 said:
It's simple. Three mobs do more damage than 2 or 1. It has nothing to do with how long the encounter lasts and everything to do with how many mobs are up and doing damage.
No it doesn't it doesn't have god damn thing to do with how many mobs are dealing damage unless your tank is freaking under geared for it, your healer is under geared and cannot support the damage, or its 1 out of 10 gimmick trash fights that you pulled out trying to act like its the norm (Yeah bring up the mobs in that one instance where it doesn't work, lets ignore the other 95% of WoTLK instances where AEing the trash is a perfectly viable and much faster method genius).
And it has
EVERYTHING to do with how quickly you can get them killed.
Thats the freaking point. You use CC when it is necessary for efficiency. Im sure EVERYONE uses CC in HoL Heroic but thats an outlier, not the norm. I have stormed through every heroic thus far and the vast majority of them can be sped up substantially by gathering and AEing them. Single targeting them is slower and theres no reason for it. ESPECIALLY in a time like this, when not all of your guild is level 80 yet. In times like this shortly after an expansion you can find yourself in PUGs for heroics. And I dont think anyone would argue that its a shitload easier to tell stupidmage#1 to use blizzard once the tank groups them, than to try and get that same mage to understand kill orders, assist the tank and watch his freaking sheep so it doesn't break and beeline for the healer. This way is just easier, and faster, period.
Not that your opinion on it matters though, its largely based on bullcrap pointless damage meter envy and will dissapear once Blizzard gets around to
giving your class as well as others AE abilities to help support this newly popular "AE the trash" mechanic that they themselves fully support. 90% of tanks and healers demand I use volley and demand AE from every other dps class capable in order to speed up the runs anyway
because it makes the most f***ng sense. If your group tried to Mass pull and AoE in HoL then you all were either on your first run in, or you yourself failed to speak up and let them know it wouldn't work there, or you were running with bad players, period. But again, thats not a fault of the strategy, it works fine in 90% of the Wrath instance, that one happens to be one where CC needs to be used, but its one of the exceptions not the rule.
No idea why you brought up Moroes and other
boss fights in a topic about
trash. Makes no sense, so I wont even bother responding to it.
And to Angry Grimace you should read the responses before replying, noone here is talking about bad players spamming volley and blizzard on pulls that are actually marked up with a skull and X and so on. We are talking about pulls where there are no marks because the tank and healer intend for them to be damaged simultaneously anyway. There is no "kill order" in that scenario.
Edited for profanity. :lol
