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[ToyMachine228]

So I'm way late to the party on the new Dustwallow Marsh quests, but what a great addition this was. The quests are all pretty quick and interesting, and they're grouped well. Got three solid levels out of it, and enjoyed it quite a bit.

 

[Xabora]

So I'm way late to the party on the new Dustwallow Marsh quests, but what a great addition this was. The quests are all pretty quick and interesting, and they're grouped well. Got three solid levels out of it, and enjoyed it quite a bit.

30 - 40 was SLOW before that came around.

 

[DarkJC]

30 - 40 was SLOW before that came around.

I don't remember it being slow, I usually got to 40+ just doing STV. 40-50 was the slow part for me.

Edit:

I don't know if this answer is really right, but I've got to say it: You're full of shit.
Not because the theorycraft of what you're saying isn't true. It's true. A lvl 75 has a very hard time hitting a lvl 81 and the hits he takes hurt.
But you're full of shit because of the aggressive way you answered before and keep answering now (I wasn't aggressive at all in my first post, just stating something I did in reply to you making fun of a 75 that said he could tank the oculus... probably he couldn't have, but I just happened to have taken part in doing that and so posted).
You're also full of shit because you called me a liar since I did something you think it's not possible: I killed the first boss in The Oculus when I was 78 with a party full of level 75, and you did it not knowing a thing about the people I did it with and the gear they were wearing (you assume they are wearing crap gear? why? because they were lvl 75?). I didn't even say it was easy, I only said the warrior didn't have problems tanking, it doesn't mean he hit autoattack and went afk, just that as people attacked and I healed, he didn't lose aggro left and right, but I guess the hunter helped with that as well. When we engaged, we thought we'd wipe, but instead we killed him (and managed to pop the second boss which whooped us).
Is this too much for you to accept? Sheesh.

I'd just like to quote this cause it deserves to be quoted, Farnack was being an idiot. Theorycraft is just that, theory. The theory behind the game mechanics give a 75 tank very low odds of downing the first boss in Oculus, but to say it's impossible and call someone a liar over it is just being a troll.

 

[Farnack]

I'd just like to quote this cause it deserves to be quoted, Farnack was being an idiot. Theorycraft is just that, theory. The theory behind the game mechanics give a 75 tank very low odds of downing the first boss in Oculus, but to say it's impossible and call someone a liar over it is just being a troll.

Right, hope you enjoy low levels running high level instances with you. Or do you really?

You probably wouldn't let a 75 in an 80 dungeon, much less a tank. And it's not theorycraft, it's hard numbers and experience. I never let anyone 3 levels below the mob tank anything anymore.

 

[Onemic]

Got to outland for the first time today and I gotta say that the way quests are handled in outland is much better than in Azeroth, since you don't have to travel everywhere jsut to get a few quests. It seems that everyone(including myself) in outland is a Death Knight though. At least in Tichondros it is.

 

[Flesh Into Gear]

yep, i've run out of shit to spend emblems on

decided to make a warrior as my 3rd and final character. I'll use her for prot and some fooling around with fury. I have my pally as ret offspec'd with holy and I'm not sure what to do with my shaman yet, either going ele or enhance.

 

[Eteric Rice]

All of them have a shift alt.

Blood Strike + Pest + Bloodboil
Obliterate + Death Strike
Plague Strike + Death Coil
Runic Strike + Auto Attack

Then to the right you see my mouse binds.

I like to keep my stuff condensed.

I just use my mouse.

Never learned how to do the shift thing. :|

 

[Won]

Ah damn....what was I thinking, when I created an Undead DK. First pair of Northrend shoulders look better than the Outland stuff, but are barely visible on my character. :lol

 

[DarkJC]

Right, hope you enjoy low levels running high level instances with you. Or do you really?

You probably wouldn't let a 75 in an 80 dungeon, much less a tank. And it's not theorycraft, it's hard numbers and experience. I never let anyone 3 levels below the mob tank anything anymore.

What? Quit putting words in my mouth. In fact, I don't think anyone in this discussion has been saying that they want very low levels in their groups. It didn't have anything to do with your preferences either.

One poster said that a level 75 tank downed the first boss in Oculus. You proceeded to use theorycraft as reasoning for calling them a liar and telling them to cut the crap. My post and the post I quoted were responses to that, there's nothing advocating severely low level players in groups at all...

Have you actually been reading the posts or just posting whatever you felt like posting?

 

[speedpop]

Question time. How the fuck do you raise 5,000g to get epic flying skills? Let alone the 1,000g for Cold Weather Flying and then some more for the actual mount.

I'm 76 and currently have the currency value of 1,500g. Quit WoW a year ago so I'm not running around with bags full of money. Then again I've yet to sell my BoE junk in the AH.

 

[Weenerz]

Get someone to DE any and all boe greens you find. Also, stop going to the AH to buy upgrades, get them from instances.

Gold is so easy to get, I make a couple hundred just doing heroics. I don't do daily quests anymore.

 

[Farnack]

What? Quit putting words in my mouth. In fact, I don't think anyone in this discussion has been saying that they want very low levels in their groups. It didn't have anything to do with your preferences either.

One poster said that a level 75 tank downed the first boss in Oculus. You proceeded to use theorycraft as reasoning for calling them a liar and telling them to cut the crap. My post and the post I quoted were responses to that, there's nothing advocating severely low level players in groups at all...

Have you actually been reading the posts or just posting whatever you felt like posting?

No, that guy said a 75 tank tanked all of Oculus. Why are you supporting having low levels in high level dungeons then? It IS impossible for a SIX level lower tank to tank SIX] level higher ELITES. They are lying. Either that, or they were completely ambiguous that the dps were the ones actually tanking and the healer was damn good at the job.

Have you even done Oculus? Do you even know how hard are the fights? Oculus is the hardest of the 80s dungeon that a bunch of ragtag non-80s will definitely not beat it with a 75 tank.

 

[No Means Nomad]

Question time. How the fuck do you raise 5,000g to get epic flying skills? Let alone the 1,000g for Cold Weather Flying and then some more for the actual mount.

I'm 76 and currently have the currency value of 1,500g. Quit WoW a year ago so I'm not running around with bags full of money. Then again I've yet to sell my BoE junk in the AH.

I came in without an epic flying mount and 1,500g and I had my epic flying mount and cold weather flying by the time I hit 78. I have no idea how this happened, but I've heard a lot of people aren't making that much money. I've pulled in nearly 3000g in quest rewards alone, Selling junk to vendors is huge on cash (1300g), and I've pulled only about 500g-ish from Auctions. Ignore your professions (unless they're gathering, sell the materials you find), and ignore abilities that won't have immediate use (every ability costs like 20g).

If you're a disenchater you're at a huge disadvantage. Selling crappy greens to vendors is big money.

 

[Eric WK]

If you're a disenchater you're at a huge disadvantage. Selling crappy greens to vendors is big money.

You mean selling a green that values for 2-5g rather than d/eing it into Infinite Dust which is selling for upwards of 7g each? Or selling a green weapon that sells for 7-10g rather than de/ing it into Essences which sell for 25-30g?

 

[Lain]

No, that guy said a 75 tank tanked all of Oculus. Why are you supporting having low levels in high level dungeons then? It IS impossible for a SIX level lower tank to tank SIX] level higher ELITES. They are lying. Either that, or they were completely ambiguous that the dps were the ones actually tanking and the healer was damn good at the job.

Have you even done Oculus? Do you even know how hard are the fights? Oculus is the hardest of the 80s dungeon that a bunch of ragtag non-80s will definitely not beat it with a 75 tank.

I said We killed the first boss in the oculus, are you even able to read what people write? Or are you too full of yourself to admit you're wrong? Still calling people liars? Please, stop.

Edit : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13710628&postcount=21799
Why didn't you call me a liar when i posted it the same day I did it? Seriously, I don't get you.

 

[Farnack]

I said We killed the first boss in the oculus, are you even able to read what people write? Or are you too full of yourself to admit you're wrong? Still calling people liars? Please, stop.

Edit : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13710628&postcount=21799
Why didn't you call me a liar when i posted it the same day I did it? Seriously, I don't get you.

You wouldn't be able to kill the first boss either. So please stop.

 

[Ripclawe]

Nuts, I think I did all the regular non instance dungeon quests to get my alliance vanguard rep to 8000 into revered. I want that biker recipe!

 

[Yasser]

Bloodfeather-EU

what's your server like? i'm on ravencrest but after my guild broke up it's been pretty dull and have been thinking about transfering to a different server

 

[MrPing1000]

hmm trying to figure out wtf to spend my badges on. I have 63, protection warrior.

Atm the only item that is useful right now is the neck and thats not much of an upgrade. Tier 7 would put me below the 540 def cap, which I'm not willing to do. Hmm maybe I'll get some enchants and reassess the situation.

 

[Lain]

You wouldn't be able to kill the first boss either. So please stop.

And yet I killed it.

 

[zam]

My guild (and I) went into Obsidian Sanctum 25-man for the first time tonight, though we could only get 20 players together, one-shotted every Twilight Drake and Sartharion too, and got an achievement for killing him with less than 21 players Damn he is an easy boss, all you have to do is watch out for the lava, that's it.

 

[Onemic]

You wouldn't be able to kill the first boss either. So please stop.

I think you're assuming that everyone in the group had the crappiest gear imaginable just because the tank was 75.

You assume way too much.

 

[GhostRidah]

do you need rep for the lvl 80 heroics?

 

[Flesh Into Gear]

do you need rep for the lvl 80 heroics?

nope, you can just walk on in

 

[No Means Nomad]

nope, you can just walk on in

One does simply walk into heroics?

 

[Aeana]

We managed to get through heroic Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Violet Hold, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning and Drak'tharon Keep pretty easily last night... but the pull before the first boss of heroic Azjol-Nerub with the three groups is really causing us problems. :\ Any insight on this would be cool, but I think it's probably just because we're not killing them fast enough.

 

[Onemic]

I'm still wondering this, is there any use of blood strike when you get heart strike from the blood talent tree?

And is on a pale horse a worthwhile talent to get?

 

[BigJonsson]

Made my engineering helm today, next up is the DPS gun..maybe

I kind of want to turn all the titanium I find into titansteel to sell while its still insanely priced in the AH

No point even trying to go for the Chopper until I get well over 12,000 gold anyway

 

[Xabora]

Because 8 just isn't enough. :lol

1 Death Knight:
16 Army of the Dead Ghouls (2 Army of the Dead Groups)
2 Risen Ghoul
1 Dancing Rune Blade

We had our other DK (Amice) summon 1 army of the dead (8 units)

 

[Weenerz]

Army of the dead is so annoying. Was doing a heroic yesterday when a dumbass DK used it, I kicked him right after we killed the boss. Fucking idiot.

 

[Aeana]

Army of the dead is so annoying. Was doing a heroic yesterday when a dumbass DK used it, I kicked him right after we killed the boss. Fucking idiot.

Really? What's annoying about it? The death knight in our group has helped us in tight spots with it before, but I play a healer, so I might not notice any possible annoyances.

 

[DarkJC]

No, that guy said a 75 tank tanked all of Oculus. Why are you supporting having low levels in high level dungeons then? It IS impossible for a SIX level lower tank to tank SIX] level higher ELITES. They are lying. Either that, or they were completely ambiguous that the dps were the ones actually tanking and the healer was damn good at the job.

Have you even done Oculus? Do you even know how hard are the fights? Oculus is the hardest of the 80s dungeon that a bunch of ragtag non-80s will definitely not beat it with a 75 tank.

Wow I can't believe you just proved you don't read posts at all. No one is saying what you say they're saying. Quit trolling.

Oh, and:

Do you even know how hard are the fights?

:lol

 

[Weenerz]

Really? What's annoying about it? The death knight in our group has helped us in tight spots with it before, but I play a healer, so I might not notice any possible annoyances.

Well the mobs constantly taunt, and we were fighting Mal'Ganis, which has a frontal cone attack, so that hitting the group instead of just me (the tank) makes it a sucky group spell.

 

[Xabora]

Army of the dead is so annoying. Was doing a heroic yesterday when a dumbass DK used it, I kicked him right after we killed the boss. Fucking idiot.

We pre-planned it because our healer had some mana issues. So we were given the go to pop it to releave some stress from him.

 

[Tamanon]

I'm still wondering this, is there any use of blood strike when you get heart strike from the blood talent tree?

And is on a pale horse a worthwhile talent to get?

Heart strike replaces blood strike. No reason to use it anymore.

 

[GDJustin]

I ran heroic Culling of Strat for the first time tonight, and got CRAZY lucky with drops. I ended up getting three big upgrades - one from each boss. It was the daily, and the five badges got me exactly to 25, which I spent on a neck upgrade.

After enchants and whatnot, I ended up gaining 133 spell power and 1200 HP from that one run (and the badge loot), plus a little Int, Hit, and Crit. o.0 That's pretty insane, for a Warlock.

I think it'll be literally impossible for me to get anymore giant upgrades like that, as I replaced pretty much my four weakest gear slots. Including my last piece of BC gear (goodbye Frozen Shadoweave Shoulders).

 

[Lord Phol]

Despite playing on a PvP server my pvp knowledge is pretty limited, don't really like WoW's pvp very much. Anyway theres a lot of Dk's but most of them are 80 already :lol I think theres a 60:40 maybe 66:33 balance in the horde's favour on the server. I could be completely wrong though

Ah thanks for the info mate :d, pretty much what I felt as well.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

MT'ed All 4 Horde bosses. 8)

 

[Hero]

Army of the dead is so annoying. Was doing a heroic yesterday when a dumbass DK used it, I kicked him right after we killed the boss. Fucking idiot.

Unless it's a fight where you have to tank the boss away from the party or what not, there's absolutely no reason to not use Army of the Dead. It's a pretty significant DPS burst and they taunt it off the MT and eat hits which give the healer more breathing room. Maybe you should relax.

We managed to get through heroic Utgarde Keep, Utgarde Pinnacle, Violet Hold, Culling of Stratholme, Halls of Lightning and Drak'tharon Keep pretty easily last night... but the pull before the first boss of heroic Azjol-Nerub with the three groups is really causing us problems. :\ Any insight on this would be cool, but I think it's probably just because we're not killing them fast enough.

You pretty much nailed it. It's all about DPS. My group today consisted of me (Unholy DK), Prot Paladin, Frost Mage and a Combat Rogue. They go down quick with AOE. Also people NEED to attack the webs when you/your party gets caught up in them. Don't let mobs CC you.

 

[EekTheKat]

Just have to say..FUCK I feel stupid.

I just realized Death Knights can knock down Death and Decay's cooldown to 15 seconds. Making it an effective cooldown window of 5 seconds.

I was having problems tanking Heroic Halls of Stone's Brann Bronzebeard's escort event (where shitloads of mobs rush you on the 3rd phase) because my DnD cooldown was 30 seconds. Now I feel like I actually stand a chance in fights like those lol

 

[Oni Link 666]

I got revered with the Knights of the Ebon Blade and got that sweet MH sword they have. Then I went to Outland to see what I could do solo in a dungeon because I really wanted the 25 tabard achievement and I'm not exalted with most of the BC factions. Basically, anything that gives me rep is way too hard for a Rogue to solo and you only get 2 or 3 rep points for killing each mob making it a huge waste of time. Hopefully they'll add more Tabards later on. I have 18 now. The only ones I could see myself getting now are the 180 BG marks Horde tabard, the Frostwolf tabard, the Defiler's Tabard, and maybe the Consortium, Ogrila, and Shatary Skyguard tabards since they don't require me to run dungeons for rep. That would make it 24. I guess I could buy one of those TCG ones off Ebay for the last one. :lol

Here's what I have now

Guild Tabard
Tabard of the Scarlet Crusade
Competitor's Tabard
Tabard of Summer Flames
Tabard of the Argent Crusade
Tabard of the Argent Dawn
Tabard of the Ebon Blade
Tabard of the Kirin Tor
Tabard of the Wyrmrest Accord
Cenarion Expedition Tabard
Mag'har Tabard
Scout's Tabard
Scryers Tabard
Sporeggar Tabard
Tabard of the Shattered Sun
Warsong Battle Tabard
Tabard of the Explorer
Green Trophy Tabard of the Illidari


Grats on your new Black War Bear LAUGHTREY!

 

[speedpop]

Was trying to run Azjol-Nerub for a few days now, and every group I was lumped into was forcing me to heal.. when I knew for a fact that an Elemental Shaman will never be able to heal the first wave & boss of AN without a decent HoT and Earth Shield.

First group wiped it again, so I said fuck it, spec'd to Resto and we went again. Bam! Down goes AN without a hiccup whatsoever. So whilst I'm fiddling around for awhile, a group in Old Kingdom had their Paladin who was healing quit from the 2nd last boss onwards. Asked me to heal it - sure let's go. Down they go without any hassles.

They wanted to do AN, said I had already done it but what the heck. That run was better than the previous.. probably because the tank actually knew how to tank. I think we completed it within 15 mins.

But now I've respec'd back to Elemental. Tasting Resto again gave me more enthusiasm to reach 80 and respec back to home glory.

 

[TomServo]

You mean selling a green that values for 2-5g rather than d/eing it into Infinite Dust which is selling for upwards of 7g each? Or selling a green weapon that sells for 7-10g rather than de/ing it into Essences which sell for 25-30g?

Tis true. I haven't bothered to level my tradeskills at all. I had three stacks of greater cosmic essence in my bags from all of the BoE and quest reward disenchants. Jaw droppped when I saw the market price for a stack of them valued at 300g on my server.

Depressing part was that I decided to use them to level my skills, and all the enchanting and tailoring mats I've been saving up as I've gotten about halfway to 78 got me about 15 points in tailoring and 20 points in enchanting. As a casual player I'm realizing it was a bit of a mistake not to just take two gathering professions. I may hit 450/450 tailoring/enchanting by 2010.

 

[Macattk15]

I've never had a problem with Heroic Azjol ... even this chain pull stuff with the Skirmishers. They are usually dead before they even do their "I'm not leaving this target" thing.

The end boss has caused a problem in one of the groups I was in though, those poison spitting mobs are pretty badass.

The worst heroic in my mind is Old Kingdom. I haven't really had a problem with ANY of the others.

I'm a fury warrior with Titan's Grip and usually run heroics with my guild (usually a pretty set 5 people ..... prot war, holy priest, fury war, blood DK, marks hunter or fire mage).

Things die so fast we don't have problems with anything usually.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Sicar

That is me, haven't had great luck at all in getting heroics drops unfortunately. Start in Naxx this week, luckily I've done most of Naxx Pre-TBC ... so I should be able to just explain everything.

 

[dave is ok]

I got revered with the Knights of the Ebon Blade and got that sweet MH sword they have. Then I went to Outland to see what I could do solo in a dungeon because I really wanted the 25 tabard achievement and I'm not exalted with most of the BC factions. Basically, anything that gives me rep is way too hard for a Rogue to solo and you only get 2 or 3 rep points for killing each mob making it a huge waste of time. Hopefully they'll add more Tabards later on. I have 18 now. The only ones I could see myself getting now are the 180 BG marks Horde tabard, the Frostwolf tabard, the Defiler's Tabard, and maybe the Consortium, Ogrila, and Shatary Skyguard tabards since they don't require me to run dungeons for rep. That would make it 24. I guess I could buy one of those TCG ones off Ebay for the last one. :lol

Here's what I have now

Guild Tabard
Tabard of the Scarlet Crusade
Competitor's Tabard
Tabard of Summer Flames
Tabard of the Argent Crusade
Tabard of the Argent Dawn
Tabard of the Ebon Blade
Tabard of the Kirin Tor
Tabard of the Wyrmrest Accord
Cenarion Expedition Tabard
Mag'har Tabard
Scout's Tabard
Scryers Tabard
Sporeggar Tabard
Tabard of the Shattered Sun
Warsong Battle Tabard
Tabard of the Explorer
Green Trophy Tabard of the Illidari


Grats on your new Black War Bear LAUGHTREY!

DON'T BUY ONE OFF OF EBAY!

You already have the 25, all you need to do is destroy your Green Trophy tabard. If you destroy and go see the tabard NPC, you're given the option of getting the Green one OR the Purple one back, and they both count.

(for some reason the appropriate NPC isn't in Stormwind, go to Ironforge assuming you're alliance)

 

[The Lamonster]

One does simply walk into heroics?

:lol

 

[SuperAndroid17]

Any DKs around having problems killing fucking ret paladins? I mean seriously , Im all in half naxx/heroic gear and these pieces of shit manage to burst me down in almost 3 hits.

80 blood dk btw and no I dont fucking suck , I've managed to get 2200+ in 2v2/5v5 on my priest.

I guess because Im wearing no resil gear , but still .. its absolute bullshit

 

[Evlar]

Penance is fucking awesome.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

So I'm ready to quit this game I guess. The way raids are playing out is far too disappointing. The badge system is *horrible* as implemented. I'm fine with giving better upgrades to 25 mans. I think it's retarded, but I'm fine with it. But not providing lesser options for the 10 man/heroic badges? What the flying fuck am I supposed to do with heroic badges now? I've gotten a neck, a trinket, and a belt. There are no more upgrades, just fucking Bind on Account gear.

Combine that with how totally fucking boring Naxx is and the whole endgame is just blah once you are fully kitted.

Leveling was fun though, I don't regret buying WotLK. Storm Peaks was worth the price alone.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

I've never had a problem with Heroic Azjol ... even this chain pull stuff with the Skirmishers. They are usually dead before they even do their "I'm not leaving this target" thing.

The end boss has caused a problem in one of the groups I was in though, those poison spitting mobs are pretty badass.

The worst heroic in my mind is Old Kingdom. I haven't really had a problem with ANY of the others.

I'm a fury warrior with Titan's Grip and usually run heroics with my guild (usually a pretty set 5 people ..... prot war, holy priest, fury war, blood DK, marks hunter or fire mage).

Things die so fast we don't have problems with anything usually.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Sicar

That is me, haven't had great luck at all in getting heroics drops unfortunately. Start in Naxx this week, luckily I've done most of Naxx Pre-TBC ... so I should be able to just explain everything.

Ahn'kahet is fine once you know the pulls and especially when you have the dps and/or regen to make the last boss trivial. Now Gundrak? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieht them Mammoth and Rhino bosses are healer nightmares. Any damage spike is GG if you're on GCD attending to group damage or you happen to be closer during Impale than your screen seems to say. Got really unlucky with Naxx25 drops yesterday too, so it's delaying just being able to out-HPS it for a bit more.