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[Macattk15]

Patchwerk is NOTHING like he used to be. He used to be such a bastard (I'm talking 40 man Naxx) ... was such a cockblock.

Anyway. I'm pulling over 3k DPS as a Fury Warrior in raids. I love Titan's Grip. I love Enhancement Shaman.

 

[Kletian]

OK, I think I'm in need of some DK tanking advice.

I'm doing great at tanking single mobs (currently Frost specced) and I do reasonably well at tanking groups thanks to DnD, Pestilence, Howling Blast, and Blood Boil. It's when I get adds or non-caster ranged mobs that things get hairy. Usually all my runes are on cooldown keeping everything else on me to effectively grab an add, and no matter how many times I death grip a ranged mob they always stroll away from me to go shoot arrows at everyone.

I can't link my build from work (though it's based off of Rcon's 'Death Rune extreme' build on wowwiki), but any assistance in a really good tanking build or strats would be great.

 

[Kintaro]

OK, I think I'm in need of some DK tanking advice.

I'm doing great at tanking single mobs (currently Frost specced) and I do reasonably well at tanking groups thanks to DnD, Pestilence, Howling Blast, and Blood Boil. It's when I get adds or non-caster ranged mobs that things get hairy. Usually all my runes are on cooldown keeping everything else on me to effectively grab an add, and no matter how many times I death grip a ranged mob they always stroll away from me to go shoot arrows at everyone.

I can't link my build from work (though it's based off of Rcon's 'Death Rune extreme' build on wowwiki), but any assistance in a really good tanking build or strats would be great.

Just remember, Death Grip will pull a mob do you, but it's not a taunt. Unless you build some threat on it, it'll just wonder off. Grab it, throw diseases on it, pestilence, blood boil (or a howling blast if it's up?) and go back to work I guess.

 

[Kletian]

Just remember, Death Grip will pull a mob do you, but it's not a taunt. Unless you build some threat on it, it'll just wonder off. Grab it, throw diseases on it, pestilence, blood boil (or a howling blast if it's up?) and go back to work I guess.

Yeah I know, i usually use Death grip to get it in range of all my other stuff, but they will usually turn around walk out of range of all my abilities to fire off their arrows, meanwhile the healer or AoE are building aggro on him and he changes targets.

The Troll Hunters in the Moorabi Cave portion of Gundrak are notorious for this.

 

[Macattk15]

OK, I think I'm in need of some DK tanking advice.

I'm doing great at tanking single mobs (currently Frost specced) and I do reasonably well at tanking groups thanks to DnD, Pestilence, Howling Blast, and Blood Boil. It's when I get adds or non-caster ranged mobs that things get hairy. Usually all my runes are on cooldown keeping everything else on me to effectively grab an add, and no matter how many times I death grip a ranged mob they always stroll away from me to go shoot arrows at everyone.

I can't link my build from work (though it's based off of Rcon's 'Death Rune extreme' build on wowwiki), but any assistance in a really good tanking build or strats would be great.

I'm no DK specialist, but in theory if it's just one add you could pull it to you and then freeze it in place with your chains of ice move or whatever ... and start going to town threat wise on that 1 mob (as the others should already be glued to you)?

I've never played a DK heh.

 

[Epix]

Some info on Dual-Spec:

When they are actually in the game we’ll have more details for you, but the idea is that you’ll be able to switch between two specs much easier than porting to a home city, resetting talents, clicking a whole bunch, and setting up the new abilities on your action bars.

Ooooh, it’ll reset the action bars too?

It’s something that was brought up as a possibility, but it isn’t a guarantee until it’s in the game. I just listed the process as it is right now and we want to make things go smoother.

 

[Weenerz]

OK, I think I'm in need of some DK tanking advice.

I'm doing great at tanking single mobs (currently Frost specced) and I do reasonably well at tanking groups thanks to DnD, Pestilence, Howling Blast, and Blood Boil. It's when I get adds or non-caster ranged mobs that things get hairy. Usually all my runes are on cooldown keeping everything else on me to effectively grab an add, and no matter how many times I death grip a ranged mob they always stroll away from me to go shoot arrows at everyone.

I can't link my build from work (though it's based off of Rcon's 'Death Rune extreme' build on wowwiki), but any assistance in a really good tanking build or strats would be great.

Line of sight pull them, or if its just one caster, use strangulate.

 

[No Means Nomad]

Damn. Protection warrior tanking is loads of fun now. With the ability to actual hold aggro on more than one guy easily it's finally not a nightmare of tab+sundering. Even when DPS was split on up to three targets I didn't have a problem keeping them on me.

 

[Azwethinkweiz]

OK, I think I'm in need of some DK tanking advice.

I'm doing great at tanking single mobs (currently Frost specced) and I do reasonably well at tanking groups thanks to DnD, Pestilence, Howling Blast, and Blood Boil. It's when I get adds or non-caster ranged mobs that things get hairy. Usually all my runes are on cooldown keeping everything else on me to effectively grab an add, and no matter how many times I death grip a ranged mob they always stroll away from me to go shoot arrows at everyone.

I can't link my build from work (though it's based off of Rcon's 'Death Rune extreme' build on wowwiki), but any assistance in a really good tanking build or strats would be great.

If you're frost spec I wouldn't bother with DnD. What I normally do is Icy Touch the pack to me, then Plague Strike, Pestilence, Howling Blast and Blood boil. At that point no one is going anywhere. The problem with using DnD is that after IT, both your frost runes will be on cooldown and you can't howling blast (unless you get lucky and rime procs). I used to use DnD but I found that I was generating a lot more threat with howling blast. That would be my advice. Also, in reference to your problem with adds. If it's just some random add, I would death grip it to you and start the rotation I mentioned above (on the add mob). If some runes are on cooldown just taunt it for a few seconds. All the other mobs should already be glued to you as someone mentioned earlier, so focus firing on the add should be no problem.

 

[speedpop]

Damn. Protection warrior tanking is loads of fun now. With the ability to actual hold aggro on more than one guy easily it's finally not a nightmare of tab+sundering. Even when DPS was split on up to three targets I didn't have a problem keeping them on me.

I can vouch for this as someone who was healing in several instances a few nights ago. Same group for them and a Prot Warrior leading the charge. There was never a moment where I was hit by a stray mob, and the only time I ever had to heal other people in the party was when they weren't taking heed of the Warrior's threat levels at the beginning of a pull.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Damn. Protection warrior tanking is loads of fun now. With the ability to actual hold aggro on more than one guy easily it's finally not a nightmare of tab+sundering. Even when DPS was split on up to three targets I didn't have a problem keeping them on me.

I still can't figure if Glyph of Sunder Armor puts the Sunder threat on the second target. I know it at least works with devastate, but that's a question I haven't answered yet. I guess I could figure it out with a modicum of effort :lol

I have a Glyph of Devastate too, but I dont' know if that actually puts double sunder threat on the target either.

 

[The Lamonster]

So I'm a lvl 66 now, and I have about 650 gold. Should I skip the slow flying mount when I reach 70 and save up for the epic?

 

[Angry Grimace]

So I'm a lvl 66 now, and I have about 650 gold. Should I skip the slow flying mount when I reach 70 and save up for the epic?

You can't skip Riding 225, becuase you can't train Riding 300 without it.

So, no.

 

[Weenerz]

Dont buy it till 77 tho, theres no point.

Also the sunder glyph builds threat on both targets.

 

[Kweh]

I'm levelling my Druid atm, it's currently Balance and I'm just not feeling it. It's 72, and just wondering, is it possible to get to 80 as Feral and then respec Resto? What would I need to do, the closer I get to 80, start picking healing gear as my quest rewards? Or should their be plenty of quests remaining once I hit 80 to pick it all up?

 

[Angry Grimace]

I'm levelling my Druid atm, it's currently Balance and I'm just not feeling it. It's 72, and just wondering, is it possible to get to 80 as Feral and then respec Resto? What would I need to do, the closer I get to 80, start picking healing gear as my quest rewards? Or should their be plenty of quests remaining once I hit 80 to pick it all up?

If someone could point me to a level 80 Resto druid guide, they'd be the first.

 

[Kweh]

What?

 

[Angry Grimace]

What?

I have yet to see anyone write up a guide that has all the quest rewards, craftables, rep rewards etc. that are best suited to resto druids that you'll still want to use when entering Heroics, etc.

I'm trying to find one for my GF's Resto Druid but I haven't seen anything written up quite yet.

 

[Farnack]

I have yet to see anyone write up a guide that has all the quest rewards, craftables, rep rewards etc. that are best suited to resto druids that you'll still want to use when entering Heroics, etc.

I'm trying to find one for my GF's Resto Druid but I haven't seen anything written up quite yet.

The guides tell you which stats are good, but since WoW gets updated, they won't waste time updating their lists with new gear. Just look at wowhead, filter the stats, and look for the best. Type them down to a notepad.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

So I'm a lvl 66 now, and I have about 650 gold. Should I skip the slow flying mount when I reach 70 and save up for the epic?

From 70-77 you can't use a flying mount in Nothrend. So I'd wait until 77 to buy the 225 and 300 skill. Then I'd buy a 280% epic flying mount skipping the blue 60% flying mount(which is only 200 or less gold).

 

[The Lamonster]

From 70-77 you can't use a flying mount in Nothrend. So I'd wait until 77 to buy the 225 and 300 skill. Then I'd buy a 280% epic flying mount skipping the blue 60% flying mount(which is only 200 or less gold).

Cool, that's kinda the plan right now. Shit is expensive!

I looked into it and it looks like I can only buy a Gryphon. How do I get one of those dragons, I think they're called Drakes?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Cool, that's kinda the plan right now. Shit is expensive!

I looked into it and it looks like I can only buy a Gryphon. How do I get one of those dragons, I think they're called Drakes?

there's multiple ways to get drakes, including running COT: Strat (H) in a certain time, as well as other things.

The most common one you'll see is grinding rep for Wyrmrest to just buy the Red Drake for 1600g. (it's listed as 2000g, but I *think* it would be less when you got Exalted....right?) That's relatively simple due to the Championing mechanic. The hard part is coughing up an addition 2600g.

 

[The Lamonster]

there's multiple ways to get drakes, including running COT: Strat (H) in a certain time, as well as other things.

The most common one you'll see is grinding rep for Wyrmrest to just buy the Red Drake for 1600g. (it's listed as 2000g, but I *think* it would be less when you got Exalted....right?) That's relatively simple due to the Championing mechanic. The hard part is coughing up an addition 2600g.

damn.


New question. How do I fight in the arena and what's all this about seasons? Do I have to wait till 70 to participate and how do you join a team and learn about seasons and stuff? It's all still very confusing to me, and I've been casually soloing since February!

 

[DarkAngelYuna]

damn.


New question. How do I fight in the arena and what's all this about seasons? Do I have to wait till 70 to participate and how do you join a team and learn about seasons and stuff? It's all still very confusing to me, and I've been casually soloing since February!

Arenas are at 80 now, not 70. Next season starts on December 16th. You either make a team in the sizes of 2v2, 3v3 or 5v5, which ever you want to play. You can join a team instead, you can be on 1 team of each size.. but each tuesday when you get your arena points from your teams performance you only get points from 1 team, that will be from the team with the most people, aka 5v5 if youre on one of those. They are worth more points than 2v2..etc....my typing right now sucks...but mmmm taco bell big bell combo...eating..nom nom.

 

[Angry Grimace]

damn.


New question. How do I fight in the arena and what's all this about seasons? Do I have to wait till 70 to participate and how do you join a team and learn about seasons and stuff? It's all still very confusing to me, and I've been casually soloing since February!

From what I hear, running COT: Strat in 30 minutes to reach the Infinite Corrupter is quite doable, but you'll need heroic/raid level AoE and a pretty damn good Pally Tank. I wouldn't doubt that there are guilds that will decide to take people on runs of it for cash.

You would think I would be less lazy about farming cash. For a 440+ BS, it's relatively easy when you know what to sell. I've got 2,500g or so still in the bank. I'm not exactly going money crazy yet though cause I have no clue what I'd spend it on.

 

[The Lamonster]

Thanks guys. So basically it's don't worry about gold, flying mounts or arenas for another 10 or so levels!

Also, :lol @ Taco Bell. I love it too.

 

[Dutfish]

I have yet to see anyone write up a guide that has all the quest rewards, craftables, rep rewards etc. that are best suited to resto druids that you'll still want to use when entering Heroics, etc.

I'm trying to find one for my GF's Resto Druid but I haven't seen anything written up quite yet.

http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/12/02/dressing-up-your-druid-in-blues-and-greens/

I don't know how good, or how useful, it will be. Nevertheless, I found one.

 

[Flesh Into Gear]

From what I hear, running COT: Strat in 30 minutes to reach the Infinite Corrupter is quite doable, but you'll need heroic/raid level AoE and a pretty damn good Pally Tank. I wouldn't doubt that there are guilds that will decide to take people on runs of it for cash.

I actually got to it with a pug the other day. We had a good pally tank and a resto shaman. The other two dps were lagging behind me pretty badly but we got there with 2-3 minutes to spare. I lost the roll on the drake though

 

[lexi]

From what I hear, running COT: Strat in 30 minutes to reach the Infinite Corrupter is quite doable, but you'll need heroic/raid level AoE and a pretty damn good Pally Tank. I wouldn't doubt that there are guilds that will decide to take people on runs of it for cash.

I've done it as a druid tank.

 

[Weenerz]

I almost got the timed as a prot warrior yesterday. We had 2 awful dps melee dps. Boss despawned with 100k hp left.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I almost got the timed as a prot warrior yesterday. We had 2 awful dps melee dps. Boss despawned with 100k hp left.

Ugh.

I was wondering, as a prot warrior myself, if you can even do this with one since all I'm hearing is "ZOMGZ NEED PROT PALADIN!!!11"

 

[MrPing1000]

So I'm trying to get the sword from heroic utgarde pinnacle.

I've done 6 runs or so so far, the first one was successful but i was fury at the time so sword went to prot warrior.

5 or so runs since I haven't got past the harpoon event. Even with the reset/harpoon farming method, people seem incapable of not dying.

Frustrating.

 

[No Means Nomad]

So I'm trying to get the sword from heroic utgarde pinnacle.

I've done 6 runs or so so far, the first one was successful but i was fury at the time so sword went to prot warrior.

Should have rolled need and hearthed.

 

[Angry Grimace]

:lol

Should have rolled need and hearthed.

I tried to convince my brother naming himself Mcninja wasn't a good idea becuase "ninja" has a bad connotation, but he didn't believe me.

 

[Oni Link 666]

Cool, that's kinda the plan right now. Shit is expensive!

I looked into it and it looks like I can only buy a Gryphon. How do I get one of those dragons, I think they're called Drakes?

You can do the Netherdrake questline in Shadowmoon Valley and get a free dragon of your choice. You just have to do a few quests and a group quest to start the chain. You can start the quests by talking to the Blood Elf hunter running around in front of the Sanctum of the Stars in Shadowmoon Valley. Where all the dragons are flying around. You have to buy epic flying before you can get past neutral and start the dailies on the floating island but, you have to have epic flying to ride any dragon anyway.

 

[OriginX]

Just ran nexus for the first time on my DK and I must say this one of the coolest instance atmospheres I've experienced since old hillsbrad. The mix of the visuals and music is epic.

 

[witness]

So 5 days in a row of heroic UK and UP, prot. pally, and still no tanking ring or cloak out of UK, and no red sword of courage from UP. We go into naxx thursday, I'm going to be the main tank and I need these freakin items, bah.

Did get my T7 gloves though from emblems, that deff. helped out my stamina.

 

[Weenerz]

I've run so many heroics since hitting 80, I am exalted with all 4 tabard factions, I bought a black mammoth for 300 stone keeper shards, bought the badge trinket, 2 chests, and 1 pair of gloves and still have 18 badges. I'm working on my other t7 tank gloves. Tank gear is offset, but with no other upgrades to buy atm, I guess I'll get those.

 

[ToyMachine228]

In the middle of leveling my second Paladin, and I haven't made up my mind on whether I'm going to go Holy or Ret at 80, but I just ran through both trees all the way through and I'm pretty let down that Ret got some of the best healing talents. Instant cast Flash of Light? A HoT? Divine Storm sounds pretty sick too, but I can understand that being in Ret. And Holy gets...Increase in haste and and increased chance to hit toward the bottom of their tree? And Holy Shock now apparently costs a shit ton of mana? Come on man!

 

[lexi]

I've run so many heroics since hitting 80, I am exalted with all 4 tabard factions, I bought a black mammoth for 300 stone keeper shards, bought the badge trinket, 2 chests, and 1 pair of gloves and still have 18 badges. I'm working on my other t7 tank gloves. Tank gear is offset, but with no other upgrades to buy atm, I guess I'll get those.

Yikes. I've got like 60 badges and I thought I've been doing well. No faction exalted yet either.

 

[BigJonsson]

Finally hit 80

Replaced my Blade of Infamy with the Krol Cleaver I got from a junkbox and my damage went up by almost 200 lol

Finally an upgrade haha

 

[Weenerz]

Just finished up my first successful CoT strat timed run. I lost the mount tho =/
Theres always tomorrow, we all decided to run together till all 5 get it.

Love my black war mammoth.

 

[Onemic]

Anyone on GAF in Tich and on the side of the Horde? I just noticed that I have no Gaffers on my friends list whatsoever.

 

[keeblerdrow]

Wow, seeing a non-widescreen resolution now is kinda jarring.

 

[Weenerz]

Wow, seeing a non-widescreen resolution now is kinda jarring.

Mine broke recently and I just haven't gotten a new one set. Maybe Santa Claus will reward me for being a good little WoW player

 

[Xabora]

Karazahn now has a new purpose:

 

[border]

How many people do you need to kill Attumen, at level 80? From the screens it looks like you 3-manned it...with that many, I imagine the trash pulls would be harder than the boss.

 

[Xabora]

How many people do you need to kill Attumen, at level 80? From the screens it looks like you 3-manned it...with that many, I imagine the trash pulls would be harder than the boss.

We 3 manned it because we both wanted the mount and he has a multi-box healer. :lol
I let him have the 1st one as long as I got the second one.

Took 8 minutes to clear to him and down him.
Stupid easy really.

A pally *might* be able to solo it if they had some Tier 7.10/7.25 gear.

 

[Alex]

So, since I'm 80, I can start doing things by myself when my duo partner isn't logged on without screwing up our EXP deficit anymore

I'm still a fresh transfer on my server, don't got a guild, playing an old character with fresh scrubby 80 gear so I queue up for a pug set of instances.

I'm very much trying to be as nice and understanding and overall kind as possible, since I'm a pretty casual player now and I don't want anything to come back and bite me in the future when I'm trying to get into an entry level guild somehow

Now these people are dumb as rocks, I hate to sound like such an ass, but it's a very typical PUG, lazy people who won't walk to the instance (leaving me alone at the summon stone since only I made the trip) don't know anything about the bare bones basics and talk exclusively in short hand internet speak

I can shrug all of that off, it doesn't need to be the ritz

But this:

This never fails to fucking infuriate me. "DPS Warrior", says he can't tank, we have to find another tank capable class for our fifth.

I get an extremely hearty chuckle at DK's I see sitting in LFG for long streches of time with the comment "DPS only". Of course since my pal is a competent DK, we never need an outside tank but it's migraine inducing even moreso than Warrior considering how tanking is done on DK.

Fucking morons.

 

[Hero]

So, since I'm 80, I can start doing things by myself when my duo partner isn't logged on without screwing up our EXP deficit anymore

I'm still a fresh transfer on my server, don't got a guild, playing an old character with fresh scrubby 80 gear so I queue up for a pug set of instances.

I'm very much trying to be as nice and understanding and overall kind as possible, since I'm a pretty casual player now and I don't want anything to come back and bite me in the future when I'm trying to get into an entry level guild somehow

Now these people are dumb as rocks, I hate to sound like such an ass, but it's a very typical PUG, lazy people who won't walk to the instance (leaving me alone at the summon stone since only I made the trip) don't know anything about the bare bones basics and talk exclusively in short hand internet speak

I can shrug all of that off, it doesn't need to be the ritz

But this:

This never fails to fucking infuriate me. "DPS Warrior", says he can't tank, we have to find another tank capable class for our fifth.

I get an extremely hearty chuckle at DK's I see sitting in LFG for long streches of time with the comment "DPS only". Of course since my pal is a competent DK, we never need an outside tank but it's migraine inducing even moreso than Warrior considering how tanking is done on DK.

Fucking morons.

For normal level 80 instances most DKs should be able to tank as long as they're Frost or Unholy.

But for level 80 heroics it's a whole different story. It is extremely difficult to hit the 540 defense cap for a Death Knight since there are no two-handed weapons with tank stats on them, they cannot equip shields, no gun/bow/crossbow/thrown and there are like three or four sigils in the game and none of them have tanking stats or abilities onto them.

Even with the defense cap Death Knight tanking is very bursty and most healers cannot accurately gauge when to use big heals or cooldowns to keep them up. When a Death Knight uses abilities like Icebound Fortitutde or Lichborne or Bone Shield it'll be nice and smooth for 10-20 seconds and all of a sudden they take three hits for 75% of their health bar. Expect this to change however since Ghostcrawler has stated they're looking into tweaking Death Knight tanking.

Edit:

However I will reiterate my own opinion that the following classes with these specs are failure for 5 man heroics.

Shaman-Elemental
Shaman-Enhancement
Paladin-Retribution
Druid-Balance
Priest-Shadow
Warrior-Arms
Warrior-Fury

Nobody wants you guys in 5 mans. If you want badges and gear then do us all a favor and respec to a spec that works well until you get your shit. I don't see how it could be worse than being stuck in LFG channel all day because nobody wants your shitty spec.