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[firex]

hit is universal so you just need to get as much as your mage has for raiding. or however much you needed for heroics. expertise just boosts your dps by resulting in less dodges, so when you're hit and expertise capped, all your attacks are either hit or crit.

 

[Chris R]

hit is universal so you just need to get as much as your mage has for raiding. or however much you needed for heroics. expertise just boosts your dps by resulting in less dodges, so when you're hit and expertise capped, all your attacks are either hit or crit.

assuming I'm behind the mob correct? Just trying to figure out how much hit and expertise I need to start doing heroics basically. I know the figures you are giving are raid figures, which are much higher, I just don't know the heroic numbers

 

[TheExodu5]

assuming I'm behind the mob correct? Just trying to figure out how much hit and expertise I need to start doing heroics basically. I know the figures you are giving are raid figures, which are much higher, I just don't know the heroic numbers

Hit doesn't mean everything around the Heroic level.

Going into Heroics, I had like 180 hit with my Rogue. After getting some Heroic gear, I went down to about 55 hit since a lot of the gear was focusing crit/haste. Now I'm back up to about 200 or so.

Test your dps on a raid boss dummy. If you're getting over 1000 dps, then I'm sure you're geared well enough for any Heroic (remember to fight from behind). 1000 dps will probably translate into 1400+ dps in an actual instance. Now to mention, you're enhancement, so people will want to bring you along for Windfury totem.

Don't be afraid of joining a Heroic and having people get mad at ya. There are some really bad players out there man. :lol

 

[firex]

assuming I'm behind the mob correct? Just trying to figure out how much hit and expertise I need to start doing heroics basically. I know the figures you are giving are raid figures, which are much higher, I just don't know the heroic numbers

expertise is just for melee, and yeah, you need to be behind the mob. If you know the spell hit cap for level 82 mobs, that's how much hit you need to do heroics.

 

[Angry Grimace]

See thats the thing I'm getting so confused about, melee hit, spell hit, and expertise :lol Also, only going for 5 man heroics at the moment, no 10 or 25 raids just yet, so the hit required should be much lower. I'm at like 180ish right now hit wise, so I think that is enough.

I like how on my mage I just need to have 369 hit, nothing else to worry about :lol

Melee hit and spell hit are one stat, but you get different percentages of either at different levels of generalized "hit rating." 180 hit probably IS enough for heroics, because miss percentages get really inflated on +3 level mobs (which is what skull mobs count as).

 

[TheExodu5]

expertise is just for melee, and yeah, you need to be behind the mob. If you know the spell hit cap for level 82 mobs, that's how much hit you need to do heroics.

He definitely doesn't NEED that hit to be viable in Heroics. I was pulling over 2300 dps with 54 measily hit on my Rogue. A lot of gear around ilvl 200 blues seems to not really focus on hit very much.

Your DPS is all you should care about right now...that's all hit effects in the end.

 

[firex]

I personally don't bother with expertise capping until after getting hit capped. and as a rogue all your damage comes from melee, and the melee hit cap is pretty low. I'm just telling him what hit he should cap himself at if he can get there to do heroics. Maybe his server isn't as elitist as mine where they gear check people for everything, but if he's asking for numbers on a hit cap, it's not helpful to say "you don't need to reach a hit cap." Besides, getting heroic hit capped brings you further along to being raid hit capped.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I personally don't bother with expertise capping until after getting hit capped. and as a rogue all your damage comes from melee, and the melee hit cap is pretty low. I'm just telling him what hit he should cap himself at if he can get there to do heroics. Maybe his server isn't as elitist as mine where they gear check people for everything, but if he's asking for numbers on a hit cap, it's not helpful to say "you don't need to reach a hit cap." Besides, getting heroic hit capped brings you further along to being raid hit capped.

Hit is the most painful stat ever. :lol Mostly because it's virtually mandatory to cap hit, but even 1 over the cap is wasted.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Hit is the most painful stat ever. :lol Mostly because it's virtually mandatory to cap hit, but even 1 over the cap is wasted.

I'm over the cap and it's lame.

 

[firex]

Hit is the most painful stat ever. :lol Mostly because it's virtually mandatory to cap hit, but even 1 over the cap is wasted.

That's why I'm actually glad a lot of the conquest gear has hit on it. makes it easier for fresh 80s to get awesome gear that will put them close to the cap. Same with some of the valor pieces, too.

 

[Angry Grimace]

That's why I'm actually glad a lot of the conquest gear has hit on it. makes it easier for fresh 80s to get awesome gear that will put them close to the cap. Same with some of the valor pieces, too.

I probably won't even bother to gear my priest unless I can get it into Ulduar 10. Might as well just wait until 3.2 since anything I get would be replaced.

 

[Bisnic]

About hit rating, what is the cap for warrior tanks? I'm at 229 with mine, who is a draenei so +1%, gives me 7.98% Hit rating. I got a little less than 20 Expertise rating since all my tanking gear kinda lacks a little in that, and even +16 Expertise gems aren't enough. Should I sacrifice 2 of my +16 hit rating gems for more expertise?

 

[Angry Grimace]

About hit rating, what is the cap for warrior tanks? I'm at 229 with mine, who is a draenei so +1%, gives me 7.98% Hit rating. I got a little less than 20 Expertise rating since all my tanking gear kinda lacks a little in that, and even +16 Expertise gems aren't enough. Should I sacrifice 2 of my +16 hit rating gems for more expertise?

8 percent is the melee cap. I don't think you can "cap" expertise as a tank as the dodge and parry percentages are too high from the front.

 

[Chris R]

I probably won't even bother to gear my priest unless I can get it into Ulduar 10. Might as well just wait until 3.2 since anything I get would be replaced.

Exactly why I'm just trying to get placeholder gear right now, because when 3.2 comes, 226 iLvl epics for everyone!!!

 

[Angry Grimace]

Exactly why I'm just trying to get placeholder gear right now, because when 3.2 comes, 226 iLvl epics for everyone!!!

Of course, that only applies to like the 5 to 7 slots you can fill with badge gear.

 

[Chris R]

Of course, that only applies to like the 5 to 7 slots you can fill with badge gear.

Well with those slots filled basically in 2 or 3 days I'll be able to join 25 naxx/ulduar pugs with the people I normally pug with right now on my mage maybe even Colosseum if it is a faceroll like ulduar was.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Source: Ghostcrawler
In the next (hopefully) PTR build, we are going to try:

Shield Specialization: This warrior talent now provides 5 rage on block, dodge, and parry instead of 2 rage on block.

There might be other changes that we aren't ready to talk about.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031077300&sid=1&pageNo=1#2

 

[firex]

About hit rating, what is the cap for warrior tanks? I'm at 229 with mine, who is a draenei so +1%, gives me 7.98% Hit rating. I got a little less than 20 Expertise rating since all my tanking gear kinda lacks a little in that, and even +16 Expertise gems aren't enough. Should I sacrifice 2 of my +16 hit rating gems for more expertise?

Hit is way more important. You don't need a whole lot of expertise to tank, really. It's impossible to reach the expertise cap as a tank, even as a druid tank with their insane free expertise and ability to use expertise leather in their tank set. Honestly, I find that tanking, I'm fine with about 5% hit, and you're already at the melee hit cap anyway.

 

[Quake1028]

I think you are worrying way too much about Heroics. I run with people all the time who do under 1k DPS, and no one really bitches at them. Do UK/Nexus/VH every day for the Emblems and SKS and you will be fine. Pick the faction that will give you the best Shammy gear and go to town.

 

[funkmastergeneral]

I think you are worrying way too much about Heroics. I run with people all the time who do under 1k DPS, and no one really bitches at them. Do UK/Nexus/VH every day for the Emblems and SKS and you will be fine. Pick the faction that will give you the best Shammy gear and go to town.

I don't like being carried, regardless of whether people bitch or not.

 

[cubicle47b]

Started real work on hard-mode Mimiron tonight (10). It's definitely a good challenge. Our Pally tank is a tad on the slow side and the resto druid didn't seem to think he should help on Plasma Blast the first X number of fights so we had some problems we had to work out on phase 1. Phase 2 was relatively easy, though. Going into phase 3 we have bloodlust up and about 5:45 seconds left on enrage but we had a tanking issue with assault bots and a bomb bot reach the raid in the couple attempts we got there. I think our best attempt was about 15% in phase 3 but people had to go.

It looks doable on Monday if we can actually get a good group together. Then we'll just have 3 hard modes left. Vezax (shouldn't be too bad), YS, and Algalon. I kind of wish our guild would implode and reform as a 10 man guild but after I get my Val'anyr.

 

[Arozay]

Finally got an item specialist to tell us what our bugged loot was. Included this gem... great job Blizzard.

they are using the same artists who designed the ugly AQ tier 2.5 armor sets

this new raid instance will be a bastard child like AQ before icecrown, it reeks of half ass

It was great back in the day when Blizzard didn't realise they could recolour shit.

 

[AceBandage]

Did all of Ulduar 10 man tonight, one shotting Yogg.
Got a lot of the hard modes done, too.

 

[zam]

I personally don't bother with expertise capping until after getting hit capped. and as a rogue all your damage comes from melee, and the melee hit cap is pretty low. I'm just telling him what hit he should cap himself at if he can get there to do heroics. Maybe his server isn't as elitist as mine where they gear check people for everything, but if he's asking for numbers on a hit cap, it's not helpful to say "you don't need to reach a hit cap." Besides, getting heroic hit capped brings you further along to being raid hit capped.

Hope you are talking about yellow hit cap, because the white hit cap for rogues (or other dual-wielders) is in the range of 700 hit rating..

 

[Angry Grimace]

Hope you are talking about yellow hit cap, because the white hit cap for rogues (or other dual-wielders) is in the range of 700 hit rating..

But the problem is that the hard cap for dual wield hit it's just too high. The yellow cap is usually considered a soft cap; in that the value of stacking hit beyond the special-cap is subject to extremely diminishing returns due to the amount of hit required to stack and the fact that the hit cap isn't even really possible to reach. Granted, it's true that hit isn't useless for dual wielding classes in that case.

 

[firex]

Hope you are talking about yellow hit cap, because the white hit cap for rogues (or other dual-wielders) is in the range of 700 hit rating..

yes, because nobody goes for the DW hit cap. So the melee hit cap is pretty much the lowest in the game at 8%.

 

[Quake1028]

I don't like being carried, regardless of whether people bitch or not.

But you are going to have to get somewhat "carried" in your first few heroics. But, I don't think doing 1.2k+ DPS is being carried, so I dunno.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

the mods on the EJ forums are like nazi's

ppl get banned for the smallest things there

This is true. I will never again try and post on their site. But I still browse through the forums on occasion for good info.

However, my problem with EJ is that they test everything into the ground so much and then some that the game loses all its fun. They've got the exact spec to be, the BiS gear that you should be wearing, and then some. I'll go there looking for some help and leave wanting to quit WoW. It's like... why bother? Everything has been figured out; there is nothing else to discover; and you are now a robot. Prepare to be assimilated and lose the freedom to enjoy the game for yourself.

Haha. Maybe it's not that bad, but I keep a certain distance away, so that I can still pretend that I'm learning things for myself, which is a lot of the fun for me.

 

[funkmastergeneral]

Thanks for t he help guys I was able to bump up my boss dps to about 1800, which I don't think is too shabby considering my awful gear. My trash dps is still failing though due to time being wasted setting up my totems

 

[Xabora]

- Draenor Set

Azuremyst Isle - 1 to 10
Bloodmyrk Isle - 10 to 20

Eversong Forest - 1 to 10
Quel'thalas - 10 to 20

Hellfire Peninsula - 58 to 62
Zangarmarsh - 60 to 64
Terokkar Forest - 61 to 65
The Deadlands - 63 to 67
Nagrand - 64 to 68
Blade's Edge Mountains - 66 to 70
Netherstorm - 67 to 70
Shadowmoon Valley - 69 to 70

- Northrend Set

Borean Tundra - 67 to 70
Howling Fjord - 67 to 70
Dragonblight - 69 to 72
Grizzly Hills - 70 to 73
Crystalsong Forest - 72 to 75
Zul'drak - 73 to 76
Sholazar Basin - 75 to 79
Storm Peaks - 76 to 80
Icecrown Glacier - 78 to 80

- Maelstrom Set

Gilneas - 77 to 80
Grim Batol - 78 to 81
Kul Tiras - 79 to 82
Kezan - 81 to 86
Tel Abim - 83 to 85
Zandalar - 84 to 87
Plunder Isle - 86 to 88
The Broken Isles - 87 to 90
The Maelstrom - 89 to 90

- Plane Set

Pandaria - 1 to 10
Hiji - 10 to 20

Wolfenhold - 1 to 10
Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20

The Green Lands - 88 to 91
The Dying Paradise - 91 to 94
The Emerald Nightmare - 94 to 97
The Eye of Ysera - 97 to 100
Deephome - 88 to 91
Skywall - 91 to 94
The Abyssal Maw - 94 to 97
The Firelands - 97 to 100

- Legion Set

K'aresh - 96 to 99
Argus Meadowlands - 97 to 100
Mac'Aree - 99 to 100
Maw of Oblivion - 100+
The Burning Citadel - 100+++

I've had this list for a long long time.
But guess what popped up!

http://worldofraids.com/news/697-random-ramblings-maelstrom-the-next-expansion.html

hai!




Also this dude's ramblings a few months back:
http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417502

Well,

With the failing economy and the initial 4% stock fall Blizzard decided to take precautions and shave about seventy of its "fluff" employees as they call them. We do little things around Blizzards HQ. Honestly it just looks good on a college graduates resume. But I was there long enough to make some decent friends in the company. And I learned a few things from some friends who shared with me things they ought not be sharing.

Like the details and plans for the next expansion that they have already started on.

Right now it is tentatively being called "Depths of the Dark Tide" or sometimes the name "Depths of the Emerald Tide", or "The Surging Depths" all names are getting tossed around for finality. DotDT Great acronym right? Well anyways, as always, Blizzard keeps coming up with new ideas to keep the game fresh. They have some real whoppers they are planning apparently.

Here is just a few things I heard/seen would be in there.

-No New Races
-Two New Hero Classes
*Archdruid
*Blade Master
-New Ocean Exploration System
-Underwater and Sea Top Siege Combat with Customizable boats and submarines.
-"Shove Off" Zoning from anywhere in Azeroth
-Level Cap is only 85* There are some discrepancies.

Apparently Azshara has been cooking something up. Deep within The Rift of the Maelstrom, Azshara has been up something new. She has began using Titan Technology along with the dark energies still resonating from the Well of Eternity to... create water? That's right. She creates huge pulses of water in the Rift that spew up into the world creating massive tidal waves causing the ocean to slowly encroach on the rest of the world. Flooding the world is her dream, however there are side effects she wasn't expecting. The floods or named by the outside world as "The Surge" are pulses of stormy waves that crash into everything raising the water level. This is sending the world out of balance and adversely affecting the Emerald dream, causing the nightmare to swell like the tides rising in the real world. This apparently colapses the planet eventually, meaning all the heroes of the world have the stop Azshara before she screws things up.


Tentative Zone Lists

Zones work differently after you leave Gilneas. They are separated into Seas. Subzones are the islands and various other thing's you come across. The subzone islands aren't as big as normal zones, but the ocean is supposively going to be of grandeur size.

Gilneas
Finally you get to see behind the gate. Gilneas led by Tarn Greymane finally opens it's gates as the Surge threatens to over take them. Because of this calamity both horde and alliance can prove themselves through a series of phase quests.

They are leading supplier of boats at the beginning of the expansion.

Kul Tiras
One of the main islands, A town called Boralus will be a major port here for the alliance and will be used a bit through out the expansion. It's one of the few non tropical islands in the expansion. This is where the alliance starts to first learn about the Surge.

Tel Abim
Tropical island of Tel Bim. Concept art is showing it to be a bright and tropical paradise with very scenic beaches. The Goblins are trying to start tourism/vacation resort here, but of course they need you to clean the island up for them first.

Zandalar Island
Whats an expansion without a Troll area. The trolls are trying to get their great land tamed and are attempting something called "Land Mending" involving weaving ley lines to repair their fractured island. There are various tribes of Trolls here from all around the world, friendly and unfriendly.

Kezan
The big island is home to many things including the home town of the Goblins... Undermine. The Goblins facing the Surge agreed to let the alliance and the horde use Undermine as a home base to combat the Maelstrom. This will be the one of the two next Shattarah/Dalaran type cities. Goblin submarines are popular here as well.

The Broken Islands
Home of the Blade Master's starting island of Saramar, The Stormreaver Bay, Tomb of Sargeras, one of the first 5 mans.(And no, there is no Sageras in his Tomb)

Plunder Island
Home of the Bloodsail. A 5 man will be here as well as quite a bit quests dealing with the various attacks all over the South Sea's dealing with their raiding and ... well... plundering. The Bloodsails are almost as popular as Murlocs this time around. They are everywhere.


The Maelstrom is a main zone, with a bunch of subzones in it as well.
There are alot of 5 mans surrounding the main rift as well as the capital of Nazjatar. This zone is supposively massive. All of these zones are underwater mainly and require the goblin submarines to explore. A lot of siege vehicles come into play here. Much like the Boats work on the surface of the ocean, in the maelstrom the submarines come into play. Of course a lot of the zones have "air pocket" areas in them where you get off of your sub to explore.
The Rift is where Azshara is producing her mighty Surge and will be one of the final raid instances in the expansion.

Ok, this sounds like alot of zones... but the islands really aren't that big. All of the Ocean is maybe 4 zones.

This is where the Emerald dream comes into play along with the Arch Druid Hero class.

The Roaming Flats
The ever changing lands of the Roaming Flats... built to be a defense mechanism against invaders of the Emerald dream, of course the nightmare infection has messed things up here. It is highly confusing and never looks the same twice. From what I hear this is one of blizzard's new babies. The next step after phasing quests. The zone actually changes every hour and locations relocate themselves. This zone has a huge quest chain that you need to complete to get to the rest of the emerald dream.

The Dying Paradise
The most corrupt part of the emerald dream. Dying trees slowly fall down to the ground. Horrific twisted versions of azeroth animals roam attacking anything near them. Black darkness spreads in some areas while it looks like fall time in others. A huge offensive of druids attempts to push back the corruption.

The Tangled Sky
This sounds like the most interesting zone in expansion imho. A series of winding roots tangled through the sky. Not sure how this one will work to be honest. But it sure is... different?

The Eye of Ysera
Overly bright green energy spews in this still pristine part of the emerald dream. The flows are trying to push back the nightmare infection leaving pretty little rows of flowers and trees in it's wake. The architecture is unique slightly similar to the night elf structures. There is a massive town here and will act as another Dalaran/Shattarah.

The Sleeping Grove and The Breathing Grove
The starting area for the Archdruids. Not much else is known.


Ocean/Depths Exploration/Shove Off
Boats! Submarines!
The new system is going to involve you actually building and customizing you're own boats to sail the sea's with. The sea's are very open and full of little cavern's and other things in the middle of nowhere. Well this is what they are aiming for anyway. Pirate attacks and sea monsters to follow.
This is going to be one of the new selling points come the expansion. Boat and submarine battles amongst players.

You get to customize your boats with different parts improving it's performance, speed, armor, and weapons. They will be using the same system as siege vehicles but they will probably add more bells and whistles.

Also you can upgrade from boats at 84 to submarines. This will be the only way to enter Maelstrom. Subs will be much like boats be be underwater. The better parts will come from engineers. This will be their new direction. They will get epic parts like blacksmithing gets epic weapons.

Oh, no flying mounts when over the ocean. The Surge prevents you from flying. Enjoy the sea's. You can enter the sea's off any beach in Azeroth by going over the fatigue area while in a boat.


New Leveling System
They are pushing forward with a more story driven progression. Northrend has some great story driven quest lines.
You still gain experience but there caps. Upon reaching enough experience to level you must complete quest chains to unlock the next level. They will be soloable. It's just in concept stages right now, and they are expecting a lot of whining if they do decide to go through with it. But they want players to feel progression just besides gear and seeing new raids.
It might not make it through, but how many other things that are planned get scrapped?


Archdruids

Archdruids... why those are just leader druids. And who would want to play a normal druid when there are ARCH druids. Yeah I know right. But they do play quite differently.
The Archdruids are the druids trapped in the emerald dream. These druids focus more on the ethereal aspect of druids. Their abilities are suppose to reflect their control over the emerald dream. No spells have really been discussed that I personally know of.
They are going to continue like death knights and have an impressive starter zone inside the Emerald dream that involves them fighting off the nightmare and waking themselves up. They work with Malfurion himself.

Blade Masters:
These clever brutes have taken up residence in the Saramar ruins. They use it as their training grounds testing their trainees on the residents of the ruins. The whole zone is to prove yourself. Half of the starter zone is you on a large boat with other graduated blade masters heading back to the mainland. You fight off sea monsters and pirates etc on what they try to make feel like a long journey home.

Blade Masters are going to tri-wield. They will equip 2 one-handed items and then 1 two hander. I am not sure exactly how that works but different skills use different weapons. They have a "reactive" skill set. Where certain skills are only usable after using other skills. An example I was given was Sliding Slash, it's like a damaging charge, after using that attack two other skills become available. Each of those two skills break off into 2 or three other possible skills. So different attacks are available depending on how you start the fight. You would have a whole different slew of options if you started the fight upclose instead of using sliding slash to gain distance. If you don't use the next in the set of skills in 5 seconds, it starts over again. There are also finishers... There are 5 tiers of skills in the set up. Sliding slash being a first tier and so on. You have a special attack button that will do a different attack based on the tier you are on and the last used skill. It ends the combo.


Anyways... thats all...

 

[Son of Godzilla]

If Blizz adds another fucking melee class before a legit caster, I'm quitting fullstop.

I've had an epiphany as my shadowwrath team went on consecutive 10-0, 0-10 runs today, and that's that FUCK MELEE HOLY FUCKING SZHIT ERSATSFDGWFASGHSTEFDXBHDBGH
wbghSDSDGHBSGDBNH

AFSBGAFGHSBSGD

HFADFDSGAS

FU K

FUCK

FUCKl.

FUCK,.

We faced like uh

two?

two.

two teams without rogues. Over the course of like 40 games. Probably ~25 different teams amongst that. TWO. TWO FUCKING TEAMS. T. DOUBLEYOU. OH. 2.

Fuck melee. Fuck melee so hard, fuck melee. FUCKMELEEEEEEE.

That's a lie, now that I'm thinkg about it. We farmed the fuck out of this double pally/dk team. But they were double pally, they deserved to be farmed.

FUCKMELEE.

But really, fuck melee.

Let me think about this actually... We fought like, 2-3 warlocks. Maybe 6-8 priests (All healers), maybe 2 enhancement shams (resto was common), a single, solitary hunter, 3-4 mages, one with a warlock but rest PMR, and uh... Oh, a boomkin in this stupid triple dps fail setup. This was at ~2000 matchmaking. Not a single ele sham. Everything else, the whole of 25 teams, was fucking melee dps. DKs and RogueRogues and Retards.

Actually I don't think we hit a single warrior either.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

I've had this list for a long long time.
But guess what popped up!

http://worldofraids.com/news/697-random-ramblings-maelstrom-the-next-expansion.html

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wnpc9y.jpg[IMG]

hai!




Also this dude's ramblings a few months back:
[url]http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417502[/url][/QUOTE]


Eh, I've seen that list before and hear about it being up somewhere before any expansion was announced. But I've never actually seen it proven for that.



I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Alex]

Yeah, something needs to do be done with core caster mechanics. Something extremely serious.

Mana regeneration for casting DPS trees, too. Will never understand how it's logical for a Mage to run out of resources after a minute or two, and a melee to go forever.

Some people say its because mana as an initial benefit as an upfront resource, but that's because those people are borderline retarded and dont realize that a little thing called cast time exists and interrupts and silences litter the game while there are almost no disarms.

Not that it matters when instant melee specials hit twice as hard as 2.5 second casts anyway.

 

[zam]

But the problem is that the hard cap for dual wield hit it's just too high. The yellow cap is usually considered a soft cap; in that the value of stacking hit beyond the special-cap is subject to extremely diminishing returns due to the amount of hit required to stack and the fact that the hit cap isn't even really possible to reach. Granted, it's true that hit isn't useless for dual wielding classes in that case.

Well there is some value for rogues stacking hit past the yellow cap to get to the spell hit cap so that poisons never miss, but it's not that much farther than the yellow hit cap

 

[Oni Link 666]

I tamed King Krush earlier today. He is by far the hardest pet to tame in the game. Not only is he just hard to find alive and not have some Alliance asshole kill him when you're trying to tame him but, he fears, he's immune to freezing trap, and hits for like 2.1k every other second. I had to use buff food and my PVP gear to have enough health to just survive through the tame beast cast.

I named him Yoshi of course.

 

[firex]

Well there is some value for rogues stacking hit past the yellow cap to get to the spell hit cap so that poisons never miss, but it's not that much farther than the yellow hit cap

I thought they changed poisons so they don't go by spell hit anymore. I guess not. Maybe I'm thinking of another poison change they did with wotlk.

 

[Kyoufu]

I'm losing sleep over the fact that my DPS progression is seriously hurting because I'm stuck with a welfare titansteel destroyer.

I'd blow a homeless man for an Aesir's Edge or anything else from Ulduar.

 

[Xabora]

And a new addon is coming along nicely. Even if everything right now is cmd based. :lol

 

[offtopic]

I'm losing sleep over the fact that my DPS progression is seriously hurting because I'm stuck with a welfare titansteel destroyer.

I'd blow a homeless man for an Aesir's Edge or anything else from Ulduar.

Too good for naxx weapons?

<3 Lotrafen.

 

[Xabora]

I'm losing sleep over the fact that my DPS progression is seriously hurting because I'm stuck with a welfare titansteel destroyer.

I'd blow a homeless man for an Aesir's Edge or anything else from Ulduar.

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[Kyoufu]

Too good for naxx weapons?

<3 Lotrafen.

I've lost rolls on Jawbone. Haven't seen Death's Bite drop and I'll probably never get a BoH. Problem with Naxx is I have so many people to roll against whereas in Ulduar 10 I'm one of the few.

Besides, Naxx weapons aren't worth BJs.

 

[Weenerz]

So I dinged 80 about 10 days ago and have to say, I've gotten pretty geared out. Basically remade my beta DK and retired my prot pally.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Garrosh&n=Strungabell

WTB Inevitable Defeat so I can pump up my expertise. I would have taken a BoH tonight, but I let a ret paladin take it because I'm nice ;p

 

[zam]

I thought they changed poisons so they don't go by spell hit anymore. I guess not. Maybe I'm thinking of another poison change they did with wotlk.

Nah, poisons have always counted as spells (at least since 3.0), it's nature damage innit. That's why I always have to yell at our lazy mages to keep scorch up on the boss

 

[CassSept]

Xabora, I believe that this list is fake (a.k.a. it was created after WotLK was announced, and circulates around the net as "list leaked before TBC existed").

About hit cap, spell hit cap is quite easy to reach. It's 17% iirc, you get 5% from talents, 3% from spriest/boomkin so really you need just 9%. It's somewhere around 230-250 cap iirc.

 

[firex]

Nah, poisons have always counted as spells (at least since 3.0), it's nature damage innit. That's why I always have to yell at our lazy mages to keep scorch up on the boss

Well, lava lash and frost strike and scourge strike are fire/frost/shadow damage, but they go by melee stats, so I was just thinking that Blizzard might have redone poisons with 3.0 so they go by melee too. But I just looked through all the patch notes and nothing, so I guess you're right.

 

[Scrow]

Blade Masters are going to tri-wield. They will equip 2 one-handed items and then 1 two hander. I am not sure exactly how that works but different skills use different weapons. They have a "reactive" skill set. Where certain skills are only usable after using other skills. An example I was given was Sliding Slash, it's like a damaging charge, after using that attack two other skills become available. Each of those two skills break off into 2 or three other possible skills. So different attacks are available depending on how you start the fight. You would have a whole different slew of options if you started the fight upclose instead of using sliding slash to gain distance. If you don't use the next in the set of skills in 5 seconds, it starts over again. There are also finishers... There are 5 tiers of skills in the set up. Sliding slash being a first tier and so on. You have a special attack button that will do a different attack based on the tier you are on and the last used skill. It ends the combo.

that sounds fucking awesome to be honest.

as for the tri-wield thing... i imagine it's like you have those weapons "equipped" but only particular abilities actually use either one. so for example, you may start the fight dual wielding then use an ability which automatically switches to a two-hander. a cooldown then starts which prevents you from using any abilities which require dual wielding. sort of like warrior stances i guess...

 

[speedpop]

It's getting to the point where I am excited about any expansion speculation, but more to do with the fact that I get to see new zones and go through more lore. PVE and PVP are practically dead to me.

Also that list has been around, publicly, since '07 I think.

 

[Xabora]

Xabora, I believe that this list is fake (a.k.a. it was created after WotLK was announced, and circulates around the net as "list leaked before TBC existed").

I already did say take it with a grain of salt.

But the blizz leak is also sitting in the grey area.

 

[firex]

I see the Archdruid as a possible hero class because they could use a healer and can tie it in to the emerald dream, but not the Blademaster. Blademaster seems like a fantasy class and I don't get what role it would have, aside from making Rogues feel worthless. Which is why, deep down in my cynical core, I expect Blademaster to be added.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I see the Archdruid as a possible hero class because they could use a healer and can tie it in to the emerald dream, but not the Blademaster. Blademaster seems like a fantasy class and I don't get what role it would have, aside from making Rogues feel worthless. Which is why, deep down in my cynical core, I expect Blademaster to be added.

If they add a new class, they should take away Death Knight.

Making our way through Ulduar, I can't help but wonder what the hell happened to Tyr.

Did he decide to run off somewhere?