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Akim

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Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

firex

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I've been doing some goblin speculation since I don't care about worgen (lol furries) and I think/hope they should get this combo of classes:
Warrior
Rogue
Warlock
Mage
Hunter
Priest/Shaman (not sure which, neither one seems to fit existing lore but they are both possible)

As far as racials go I think they should get something like...
Engineering bonus (like gnomes, too obvious to pass up)
Agility bonus (similar to int/spi/hp bonuses from gnomes/humans/tauren)
Buy/sell bonus (being the merchant race, an extra 5% discount or being able to vendor stuff for 5% more would fit and be nice, but not game-breaking in any way)
Gun specialization
Some kind of active racial cooldown, though I have no idea what they could get that's unique and fits pre-existing goblin lore

that's 5 things, I know, but really a lot of races have more than 4 racials now, unless their standard 4 are way better.
 
jim-jam bongs said:
Has this always been in the Dalaran Sewers?

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It appears that the turtles, under rat supervision, are planning something. Whether it will be a peaceful coup or a violent revolution remains to be seen, but I for one welcome our new furry/half-shelled overlords.

:lol glad someone else noticed it. Hopefully you also noticed it was a ninja turtle reference :p
 

Chris R

Member
I fucking hate arena so damn much, why does the best Enhancement totem (that I can get) have to come from there :( Hell even if I could convert say 75000 honor points into 10 arena points it would be a better experience than queuing up for 10 faceroll losses.
 

Xabora

Junior Member
firex said:
I've been doing some goblin speculation since I don't care about worgen (lol furries) and I think/hope they should get this combo of classes:
Warrior
Rogue
Warlock
Mage
Hunter
Priest/Shaman (not sure which, neither one seems to fit existing lore but they are both possible)

As far as racials go I think they should get something like...
Engineering bonus (like gnomes, too obvious to pass up)
Agility bonus (similar to int/spi/hp bonuses from gnomes/humans/tauren)
Buy/sell bonus (being the merchant race, an extra 5% discount or being able to vendor stuff for 5% more would fit and be nice, but not game-breaking in any way)
Gun specialization
Some kind of active racial cooldown, though I have no idea what they could get that's unique and fits pre-existing goblin lore

that's 5 things, I know, but really a lot of races have more than 4 racials now, unless their standard 4 are way better.
5% more cash from vendors when selling an item and 5% off when buying.
 

firex

Member
yeah, that's what I mean. I don't see how something like that won't be given to goblins, just because it fits the lore and gives a fun reason to make a goblin alt.

I really want goblin hunter as an option. I kind of doubt it's going to happen, but oh god I wish it would. I would drop my orc for a goblin hunter asap.
 

Retro

Member
firex said:
I've been doing some goblin speculation since I don't care about worgen (lol furries) and I think/hope they should get this combo of classes:

I was thinking Rogue, Warrior, Mage, Hunter, and Death Knight (of course). Goblins don't seem like they'd be too keen on being tied to demonic forces, so I didn't think Warlock would fit. Priest seems completely off as I can't really see Goblins following the Light either. Shaman would work, though, but just barely.

firex said:
As far as racials go I think they should get something like...

I don't think the buy/sell option would be a good idea; far too many people would mail all of their vendor crap to a goblin alt for the slightly better prices. I realize 5% isn't that huge, but... keep in mind what kind of cockstains are known to play the game. I was thinking instead that their merchant ways would translate better as a larger default backpack. Anyways, here's a few ideas I've had; not advocating all of them, just... pick whichever ones you like.

Expansive Mind: Increase Intellect by 5%.

Engineering Specialist: 15 point skill bonus to Engineering.

Gun Specialization: Your chance to critically hit with Guns is increased by 1%.

Merchant's Satchel: Starting Backback is 20 slots instead of the default 16.

Mechanical Gnome: Summons a small, mechanical, and most importantly, obedient gnome that can deliver mail, repair, or provide shopping to you. You may also choose to abuse it for comical value. One option per use, 1 hour cooldown.

Shortstuff:Reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 1%.

Run away!: Increases movement speed by 60% for 15 sec. 5 min cooldown.
 

Xabora

Junior Member
Retro said:
I was thinking Rogue, Warrior, Mage, Hunter, and Death Knight (of course). Goblins don't seem like they'd be too keen on being tied to demonic forces, so I didn't think Warlock would fit. Priest seems completely off as I can't really see Goblins following the Light either. Shaman would work, though, but just barely.



I don't think the buy/sell option would be a good idea; far too many people would mail all of their vendor crap to a goblin alt for the slightly better prices. I realize 5% isn't that huge, but... keep in mind what kind of cockstains are known to play the game. I was thinking instead that their merchant ways would translate better as a larger default backpack. Anyways, here's a few ideas I've had; not advocating all of them, just... pick whichever ones you like.

Expansive Mind: Increase Intellect by 5%.

Engineering Specialist: 15 point skill bonus to Engineering.

Gun Specialization: Your chance to critically hit with Guns is increased by 1%.

Merchant's Satchel: Starting Backback is 20 slots instead of the default 16.

Mechanical Gnome: Summons a small, mechanical, and most importantly, obedient gnome that can deliver mail, repair, or provide shopping to you. You may also choose to abuse it for comical value. One option per use, 1 hour cooldown.

Shortstuff:Reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 1%.

Run away!: Increases movement speed by 60% for 15 sec. 5 min cooldown.
You make an excellent point and I like Merchant's Satchel more than my idea. ^_^
 

firex

Member
there's already been goblin warlocks and stuff in the game though. A level 12 durotar quest is to kill a goblin warlock in particular, and they are just as liable to get in over their heads as gnomes are when it comes to thinking they can outsmart anything in terms of lore/quests/story in game.

I also don't think copying every gnome racial outright is what they could use. The whole reason I see 5% buying/selling not mattering is it's 5% of vendor stuff and vendor stuff never sells for enough to make you go "oh wow that's awesome" since it would be 10s at most for grays and you can't mail anything soulbound. And it helps making a new alt because you spend less money on them leveling them up. I guess a 20 slot starting bag would help, too, but that already seems lamer than getting a little bit of extra gold. It sounds big on paper, but in practice it wouldn't be anything major, especially as gold becomes pretty valueless (and dailies become much better ways of getting gold) as the expansions and levels continue to pile up.

Engineering bonus does seem like a must, though, because obviously the two specialties are goblin and gnomish engineering. The way I see it given how they tend to be portrayed, the obvious/gimme racials are gun spec and engineering bonus, and from there you just come up with other racials that would be fun/cool/might convince people to roll goblins as a specific class. I go with agi bonus over int bonus purely as a personal choice (no duplicate stat bonus, but a similar passive bonus to one base stat for a race) even though goblins aren't necessarily that agile, despite the whole sapper/quick movement traits to their race.

I didn't list DK because I think it's a given that any new race will be able to be a DK. Just going by the non-hero classes.

Actually, one other idea one of my friends thought of ingame is what if goblins could speak both common and orcish? I doubt it would happen due to pvp servers (I remember the horrors of cross-faction trash talking when undead could speak common in vanilla beta) but since goblins are the neutral merchant race, it would make sense for them.

I can basically see goblins as any class with very little lore justification except for priest/shaman/druid/paladin. That's just because goblins don't really have any kind of church or worship the light or anything, and in general aren't that religious in any kind of way (including animism) so basically they would lean more towards the arcane magic or the non-magical classes. But then I can see a reason to have goblin healers, and if they join the horde I can see priest/shaman as possibilities for sure.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
My theories on Worgen and Goblin classes would be:

-- Worgen --
Warrior, Rogue, Druid, Warlock, Priest, Hunter, Mage

-- Goblin --
Warrior, Rogue, Warlock, Mage, Priest, Hunter

If the MMO-C leak is anything to go by we can assume that since Trolls gets druids another alliance race gets it aswell, and what would be better suited than Worgen? I mean, they're already shifters.

And oh, I'm betting 5g that Worgen will have fist weapon speciality.
 

Magnus

Member
Where was the first WotlK reveal? I seem to recall watching that live on a stream, and I'm ticked at the idea of having to pay $40 to see it live this time! Was it the French invitational thing?
 

TomServo

Junior Member
Angry Grimace said:
Speaking of DPS woes, I'm having a hell of time trying to configure a DoT timer to do exactly what I want. I only need two things for a timer to do:

1. Display only the Timers for SW: Pain, Vampiric Touch and Devouring Plague.
2. Display them in a fixed color based on Debuff.

I've tried setting up DoTimer like 5 times but it just keeps giving unexpected behavior which causes me to go back to the super basic ones in Quartz (which I only don't like because it tracks junk debuffs like Mind Trauma and Misery and makes it harder to keep track of VT which needs to be cast between 1.4s and 0.0s).

I'm assuming that DoTimer CAN do those things, but I'm having a whale of a time getting it to actually do them.

Not sure about the color, but the easiest way to filter timers is to shift+right click on them when they're active. You'll get a popup asking you if you want to ignore that particular timer.
 

Wrekt

Member
Angry Grimace said:
Wut? Really?

Most VoA I'm in, if I even manage 4K I'm the guy carrying everyone else. :lol
These were obviously generalizations. I have never been in a Mal'Ganis pug that has failed and even back in the Naxx-is-endgame days, you would have to break 3.5k to even show up in the top 10 in most pugs I joined. Most of the pugs would make you list your VoA achievements and stats before they would invite you.

I haven't been on Mal'Ganis in a couple months though so they may have lightened up a bit since then.
 

TomServo

Junior Member
sykoex said:
But with the DK, even with a lowly lvl 50 mob, I have to juggle 5 different buttons just cause everything seems to have a really long, relatively, cooldown.

I've got a /castsequence macro called "DK faceroll" on my DK alt. Just look at the official forums for good leveling builds (blood) and the accompanying rotation. They're designed to line up with rune cooldowns, so if you macro them you can just hit one button.
 
Angry Grimace said:
Got to Yogg tonight, although nowhere close to downing him since we had 30 min. on him. At least I got my /kiss Sara in Phase 2 achievement :lol

Still rocking that blue Runecaster's Mantle! Zero shoulder drops in many, many Ulduar runs :lol

Well you are in a better position than I am. I don't think our guild will ever see Yogg. In regards to your shoulder woes I feel your pain. I have never seen any dps plate drops in Uld EVER. But there is hope. Simply save 30 triumph badges and you can buy tier 9. Better than the 25 man Yogg shoulder set drop and you get started on making your next set. Thank you Blizzard!

The Dark One
 

speedpop

Has problems recognising girls
I finally got around to doing the Exploration achievements. I wanted to do them off and on ever since I first played the game years ago, but never felt the desire to really motivate myself. I mean, this is coming from someone who water-walked around the northern tip of Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms when you couldn't mount or even change into Ghost Wolf to make the trip faster. And that was just for fun to see what was around there.

So I spent around 3-4 hours doing it, and I feel really burnt out. Tabard is ok, title is ok, but I only just re-subbed a week ago and I don't feel like playing anymore of the game till the expansion :lol

Was going to try and up my fishing and cooking cause they seemed to be real easy and laid back, but I doubt I want to even bother with that now.
 

Wrekt

Member
speedpop said:
Was going to try and up my fishing and cooking cause they seemed to be real easy and laid back, but I doubt I want to even bother with that now.
If you value your sanity, just raise fishing by doing the fishing daily and then don't touch it again until the next day. I started out at 225 skill last month and I sat down for an extended fishing skill grind. I only got to 250 before I started hallucinating.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
Angry Grimace said:
Got to Yogg tonight, although nowhere close to downing him since we had 30 min. on him. At least I got my /kiss Sara in Phase 2 achievement :lol

Still rocking that blue Runecaster's Mantle! Zero shoulder drops in many, many Ulduar runs :lol

You never bought the T7.5 shoulders with emblems? If you really did many, many Ulduar runs, you should have enough. :lol

Myself, i'm still stuck with the T7 ones. But, thanks to the daily heroic quests, i can buy the T9 later today after work. :D I've done that quest every days since the patch went live. :lol
 

speedpop

Has problems recognising girls
Wrekt said:
If you value your sanity, just raise fishing by doing the fishing daily and then don't touch it again until the next day. I started out at 225 skill last month and I sat down for an extended fishing skill grind. I only got to 250 before I started hallucinating.
I've heard how terrible it can be to grind it up, my partner's sister went through the process awhile back and hated every moment of it after she finished.
 

firex

Member
screw that, the best way to raise fishing is to try fishing up Lurker Below!

well, not really, but I did that with my shaman friend. we both got the achievement and I only had like 140 fishing skill.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
For fishing, well at the beginning at least, i usually try to get 5 points into Fishing for every lvl i get, so that my fishing is usually at the same point as my weapon skills. It's rather fast and not too boring to do. Of course sometimes i lvl so fast i forget about it, so it's 10 points to get, but whatever. :lol

Then, when i reach 250+ fishing where it takes like 10 fishes to get 1 single point, i just forget about it and wait for Northrend where i can do the fishing daily and just lvl up it up like this.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
DarkMage619 said:
Well you are in a better position than I am. I don't think our guild will ever see Yogg. In regards to your shoulder woes I feel your pain. I have never seen any dps plate drops in Uld EVER. But there is hope. Simply save 30 triumph badges and you can buy tier 9. Better than the 25 man Yogg shoulder set drop and you get started on making your next set. Thank you Blizzard!

The Dark One
The reason you aren't seeing DPS shoulder drops is because there is only one in both 10 and 25 man, the ones off of Auriaya-25.

My plan for now is to go 2 pc. T8.5 from badges and 2 pc. T9 while I wait for the other set. I'm behind on Triumph badges at the moment, but not too bad. The bonus isn't amazing on T9 but it's definetely a DPS increase (6 sec/2 ticks extra per VT)
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Bisnic said:
You never bought the T7.5 shoulders with emblems? If you really did many, many Ulduar runs, you should have enough. :lol

Myself, i'm still stuck with the T7 ones. But, thanks to the daily heroic quests, i can buy the T9 later today after work. :D I've done that quest every days since the patch went live. :lol
The number of Valor emblems required to get them is stupid high, like 60 if I recall right. I had other things I wanted, although to be fair, I did most of our regular scheduled Ulduar runs on my DK.
 
Angry Grimace said:
The reason you aren't seeing DPS shoulder drops is because there is only one in both 10 and 25 man, the ones off of Auriaya-25.

My plan for now is to go 2 pc. T8.5 from badges and 2 pc. T9 while I wait for the other set. I'm behind on Triumph badges at the moment, but not too bad. The bonus isn't amazing on T9 but it's definetely a DPS increase (6 sec/2 ticks extra per VT)

Exactly! We have killed her over 10 times and she NEVER dropped them. So I said screw it and I'll get tier 9. Same type of stats just much more of them. Take THAT Auriaya!

The Dark One
 
lakesideflight said:
anyone want to recruit me for RaF? I want to get a quick 60, we could probably do it in a week or so, maybe less depending on how we level (questing or getting instance runs?). I got bailed on at 28 by someone else I tried RaFing with, so I'm looking for someone that will stick with me to 60, and we can get this done quick. I'm in EST, U.S., so I'll play on any american server. I'll buy vanilla key, you recruit me. Either PM me or contact me at lakesideflight @ gmail.com

still looking, I'd like to roll alliance. If we start today we could get a 60 before blizzcon this weekend :D
 

Chris R

Member
Started my prepared horde warrior (just shoulders and chest BoA stuff for now) since Lakesideflight took forever to respond to pms and wants to roll alliance (YUCK)

So if anyone wants to do RAF on a US PvP server, Horde side, let me know (parked the dude at level 5, since I'm waiting to get the BoA trinket and Bloodied Arcanite Reaper)
 

Adent

Can't manage for sh!t
Does anyone here use Auctioneer? How much gold do you have. I've had it for 3 days and I'm at 37 gold. That's from just selling my own stuff.
 
Bisnic said:
You never bought the T7.5 shoulders with emblems? If you really did many, many Ulduar runs, you should have enough. :lol

Myself, i'm still stuck with the T7 ones. But, thanks to the daily heroic quests, i can buy the T9 later today after work. :D I've done that quest every days since the patch went live. :lol

I'm tempted to buy the Tier 9 shoulders myself sometime this week, but I I kind of want to save my emblems up for when I can finally get myself a Trophy of the Crusade. It'll probably take awhile but that gear is awesome.
 

Macattk15

Member
funkmastergeneral said:
I'm tempted to buy the Tier 9 shoulders myself sometime this week, but I I kind of want to save my emblems up for when I can finally get myself a Trophy of the Crusade. It'll probably take awhile but that gear is awesome.

Yeah there isn't any way I'm wasting badges on buying the Tier 9 when I can get the 9.25(no idea wtf to call it) with badges + trophy .... heck I may just wait until Heroic 25m unlocks and wait for the 9.5 or whatever it may be.
 
Macattk15 said:
Yeah there isn't any way I'm wasting badges on buying the Tier 9 when I can get the 9.25(no idea wtf to call it) with badges + trophy .... heck I may just wait until Heroic 25m unlocks and wait for the 9.5 or whatever it may be.

Heroic 25 man drops armor tokens, so no need to trade emblems in for them.
 

Wrekt

Member
Adent said:
Does anyone here use Auctioneer? How much gold do you have. I've had it for 3 days and I'm at 37 gold. That's from just selling my own stuff.
What level are you? 37 gold at 80 is like 2 daily quests. :lol
 
speedpop said:
I've heard how terrible it can be to grind it up, my partner's sister went through the process awhile back and hated every moment of it after she finished.

I started to level fishing when my priest was level 5, didn't touch it again until she was 80 but once I got into it I loved every minute of it. And that was before the patch, when it was genuinely a hassle because you had to fish in areas that were at your skill level.

Depends on the person; I do find it oddly relaxing, and have been known to fish in Thaddius' room while the raid confuses each other by shouting "NEGATIVE" and "POSITIVE" at one another over and over.
 

sykoex

Lost all credibility.
Adent said:
Does anyone here use Auctioneer? How much gold do you have. I've had it for 3 days and I'm at 37 gold. That's from just selling my own stuff.
Are you using a beta version or something? I thought there wasn't a 3.2 compatible version yet.
 

Evlar

Banned
sykoex said:
Are you using a beta version or something? I thought there wasn't a 3.2 compatible version yet.
I have Auctioneer running at the moment... I updated quite a few add-ons right as the patch was being released but I don't remember if Auctioneer was one of them. It might be beta or the old version may just work. I'll check when I get home.
 

johnsmith

remember me
Angry Grimace said:
3-4K isn't average on my server either. More like 2K to 2.5K (and those people believe they are fucking hot shit, btw.) Honestly, most PUGs of more than 5 people generally fall to 1 or 2 guys that are good to carry everyone else. As long as those one to two guys pay attention, Emalon isn't hard in the least. I'd say, maybe 3/10 difficulty.


Speaking of DPS woes, I'm having a hell of time trying to configure a DoT timer to do exactly what I want. I only need two things for a timer to do:

1. Display only the Timers for SW: Pain, Vampiric Touch and Devouring Plague.
2. Display them in a fixed color based on Debuff.

I've tried setting up DoTimer like 5 times but it just keeps giving unexpected behavior which causes me to go back to the super basic ones in Quartz (which I only don't like because it tracks junk debuffs like Mind Trauma and Misery and makes it harder to keep track of VT which needs to be cast between 1.4s and 0.0s).

I'm assuming that DoTimer CAN do those things, but I'm having a whale of a time getting it to actually do them.

Dotimer can't do different color for each buff. It goes based off time. Well, you CAN, but it involves setting up a separate anchor and timer for each individual dot and then setting the long medium short time color the same, and all that's just way too much fucking work.

I was a dotimer fan for a long time, but fortexorcist blows it away.
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fortexorcist.aspx
It's easy to setup colors for each individual dot and easy to ignore the ones you don't need. I also like how it handles multiple mobs better, and has made it much easier for me to keep multiple dots up on multiple targets.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
johnsmith said:
Dotimer can't do different color for each buff. It goes based off time. Well, you CAN, but it involves setting up a separate anchor and timer for each individual dot and then setting the long medium short time color the same, and all that's just way too much fucking work.

I was a dotimer fan for a long time, but fortexorcist blows it away.
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fortexorcist.aspx
It's easy to setup colors for each individual dot and easy to ignore the ones you don't need. I also like how it handles multiple mobs better, and has made it much easier for me to keep multiple dots up on multiple targets.
I dunno, I just find it easy to track them by color. I tend to associate them by the color of their icon, i.e. VT is blue, DP is red, and I want SW: P to be yellow.
 

Mr Nash

square pies = communism
firex said:
I can basically see goblins as any class with very little lore justification except for priest/shaman/druid/paladin. That's just because goblins don't really have any kind of church or worship the light or anything, and in general aren't that religious in any kind of way (including animism) so basically they would lean more towards the arcane magic or the non-magical classes. But then I can see a reason to have goblin healers, and if they join the horde I can see priest/shaman as possibilities for sure.

Maybe they'll worship the almighty dollar / gold. :p They could have churches with casinos, and dancin' girls in them. Now that's something I could get behind. :p
 

Chris R

Member
Angry Grimace said:
I dunno, I just find it easy to track them by color. I tend to associate them by the color of their icon, i.e. VT is blue, DP is red, and I want SW: P to be yellow.
Look into Full Moon :lol

Even though it is a shaman mod, you could easily hack it.

Just got 58 badges tonight, yay for cheap abyss shards :D now to get 58 more for my 2p bonus :lol
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Some dumbass priest we PUGed in H ToC he'd randomly release after getting killed for failing at healing himself when the Black Knight was at 10% health. I'm sure you can imagine the loot argument afterwards when nobody noticed he released his corpse :lol
 

Won

Member
I don't know....the whole point of being availabe with the stream was probably to annoy all the ebayers I guess.
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
Due to the ease of getting the pet, it's probably worthless. It's not like it's only available to people that actually went to the con.
 
rhfb said:
Someone hasn't ever farmed Icecrown. Greys from a single session can total in the hundreds of gold.

There's places in there, that if you haven't phased them, are outstanding.

If you value your sanity, just raise fishing by doing the fishing daily and then don't touch it again until the next day. I started out at 225 skill last month and I sat down for an extended fishing skill grind. I only got to 250 before I started hallucinating.

Chat on Vent/listen to podcasts. Take breaks. Makes it possible.
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
The new ToC boss is a clusterfuck. It isn't even hard, it just requires you to bring a lot of interrupters (we had 4 and that wasn't nearly enough).

Come on guys, a PvP boss again. Get original.
 
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