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[funkmastergeneral]

PC Gamer/UK Cataclysm info from MMO-Champ:



at the bolded.

None of that info seems new, except maybe the amount of heroic dungeons.

 

[yacobod]

well after killing lk last week, we've downed 4 bosses on heroic so far, marrow, gunship, princes, and rotface, we're gonna try festergut and BQL next raid night, won't be able to spend too much time on each tho, still need to clear frostwing, putricide, and LK this week

heroic gunship and princes should have been the normal modes imo, they arent really that more difficult, and they make those fights slightly more interesting on 25m, we almost killed heroic saurfang last night, but we had a dps disconnect and was offline for an hour due to the que

and like Fularu said, Illidan & Mal'Ganis >>>>> your server, i think illidan has overtaken MG as number 1 for the time being, the only downside of the server is that raiding on tuesday nights is extremely problematic due to the heavy instance lag, we ended up switching to Wed/Thurs/Sun because Tues was always so bad, almost unplayable really

 

[firex]

Yes, but the part immediately afterwords implies that he'll live on somehow, probably as some kind of spirit or maybe reincarnated somehow.

That does suck though; since I'll probably be rolling Paladin Number Six (well, the sixth past 60, at least) as a moocow, I've been kind of noticing them in the game more and actually paying attention to their lore. So it sucks to see these peaceful cowfolk losing their leader because of some young upstart.

All of these changes within the Horde make me kinda not want to play them. Don't get me wrong, I don't sit around and bitch about the Lore, but... it still has some impact. That said, the Alliance also has a brat for a leader too, so I guess it balances things out.

It makes me dislike playing orcs like I used to, because Thrall's pretty much the coolest leader of all the races. But they already kind of set that tauren story in motion by having Cairne's son disappear from Bloodhoof, and he is supposed to take over after Cairne is killed.

What I kind of hope happens is at the "end" of this alliance/horde war story, the horde mostly wins but both Garrosh and Varian Wrynn are killed so both factions have to have a new leader.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Maybe they should delete some accounts while they are at it, no?

Forcing people to play on X server with X person is never, ever going to work. Never. Ever. Well, at least until the game is unpopular and they can't afford to run that many servers profitably.

Blizzard doesn't give two shits about competitive PvP balance, and they are totally right in doing so. Fuck that shit. It would an incredible business blunder to force anyone to play on a server they don't want to.

There are a ton of dinky servers out there that could be completely combined with other dinky servers. It would be no difference to the user assuming they give enough relief for no queues.
I'm not interested in balancing world pvp. I see a lot of guilds having failed attempts at progressing on low populations servers. Said servers always have just a few guilds actually progressing that a lot of people cant get into. The failing ones don't have enough good recruits and dedicated players. People don't sigh on, etc. More people to pick from on those servers for those less 'elite' guilds is simply.. 100% better.

What's your arguments against more merging? Forcing x to play with x being negative? That is a nonexistent argument.

What does deleting have to do with anything?

Blizzard knows it's fan base does cross realm guild recruitment. There's a point where the people in this boat can't find a guild, can't build one, so they pay to transfer. If it never happens, that's the reason.

I've been in progressing guilds, but I spent most of my time witnessing tons of people not having a good chance because of low populations servers.

Also, it can only help make leveling more fun despite the new incentives.

 

[Fularu]

You can be elitist without being elite. I mean look at Fularu.

What was elitist about my post?

 

[dimb]

There are a ton of dinky servers out there that could be completely combined with other dinky servers. It would be no difference to the user assuming they give enough relief for no queues.
I'm not interested in balancing world pvp. I see a lot of guilds having failed attempts at progressing on low populations servers. Said servers always have just a few guilds actually progressing that a lot of people cant get into. The failing ones don't have enough good recruits and dedicated players. People don't sigh on, etc. More people to pick from on those servers for those less 'elite' guilds is simply.. 100% better.

What's your arguments against more merging? Forcing x to play with x being negative? That is a nonexistent argument.

What does deleting have to do with anything?

Blizzard knows it's fan base does cross realm guild recruitment. There's a point where the people in this boat can't find a guild, can't build one, so they pay to transfer. If it never happens, that's the reason.

I've been in progressing guilds, but I spent most of my time witnessing tons of people not having a good chance because of low populations servers.

Also, it can only help make leveling more fun despite the new incentives.

People would cry on forever about having to give up the name "BoobasaurusRex" because someone on the other server has it.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

What I kind of hope happens is at the "end" of this alliance/horde war story, the horde mostly wins but both Garrosh and Varian Wrynn are killed so both factions have to have a new leader.

Awww, but I like Mr. Chin.

 

[firex]

I like how he is unreasonably dickish to everybody. Just like Garrosh!

Thrall probably wants to put in a CoT instance where you go back in time and never do the Greatmother quest chain in Nagrand now.

 

[arhra]

I'm just saying, if they want to be elitist jerks they should at least be elite at something more than math and making people pay money to play with you.

Oh man, literally everything about this sentence is wrong. The vast majority of EJ members don't contribute significantly to the math side of the theorycraft, their forums just ended up being the place where that happens thanks to being one of the only and oldest PVE-oriented forums around. And noone has ever had to pay money to be a member (nor has anyone ever had to pay money to be in Goon Squad, beyond the :10bux: to join SA; and anyone paying up just to join a good guild is generally mocked, and probably won't last that long).

EJ's name just came about because at the end of beta, there were basically two factions in the beta Good Squad - those who just wanted to screw around, play the game, and have fun in a goony goon goon atmosphere, and those who wanted to be serious about raiding, with a proper loot system, attendance limits for raiding, and all the usual hardcore guild trappings. The latter group were generally called elitist jerks by the former, and eventually it stuck when they picked it as their guild name when the game launched and they properly splintered from the main Goon Squad.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Oh man, literally everything about this sentence is wrong. The vast majority of EJ members don't contribute significantly to the math side of the theorycraft, their forums just ended up being the place where that happens thanks to being one of the only and oldest PVE-oriented forums around. And noone has ever had to pay money to be a member (nor has anyone ever had to pay money to be in Goon Squad, beyond the :10bux: to join SA; and anyone paying up just to join a good guild is generally mocked, and probably won't last that long).

EJ's name just came about because at the end of beta, there were basically two factions in the beta Good Squad - those who just wanted to screw around, play the game, and have fun in a goony goon goon atmosphere, and those who wanted to be serious about raiding, with a proper loot system, attendance limits for raiding, and all the usual hardcore guild trappings. The latter group were generally called elitist jerks by the former, and eventually it stuck when they picked it as their guild name when the game launched and they properly splintered from the main Goon Squad.

I don't know if I should quote your avatar or not. It just seems too obvious.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Who gives a shit what other guilds are doing?

 

[joelseph]

Who gives a shit what other guilds are doing?

The entire game is based on guild competition. So the answer to your question would be "tons of people".

 

[Retro]

The entire game is based on guild competition.

.... NotSureIfSerious.jpg

 

[joelseph]

.... NotSureIfSerious.jpg

What do you think the endgame is based around? Gear progression? Character progression? Guild progression? Guild competition? Other?

 

[Angry Grimace]

The entire game is based on guild competition. So the answer to your question would be "tons of people".

Those people are dumb then

What do you think the endgame is based around? Gear progression? Character progression? Guild progression? Guild competition? Other?

Fun? Ring a bell?

 

[Bisnic]

Quote from: Wryxian (Source)
Yeah it just takes one person to press Need after everyone's pressed Greed on the Frozen Orbs and you miss out. But the good news is that in patch 3.3.3 this won't be the case anymore -- the roll for Frozen Orbs will be an automatic Greed roll. Rejoice!

Thank god, i grow tired of those jackasses that roll need after everyone else rolled Greed. And i'm tired of always typing "Please roll need on orb" before every final boss for the last few days.

 

[Angry Grimace]

The entire game is based on guild competition. So the answer to your question would be "tons of people".

This is dangerously close to Insane Troll Logic; if that was even remotely true, don't you think the game would have some kind of means to track competition between guilds? The only one they even have is Realm First achievements. You really believe that the entire game is based on guild competition? WoW is designe for only the most cutting of cutting edge types? Really? REALLY?

And here I thought Wrath was the "casual" expansion :lol

 

[mclem]

None of that info seems new, except maybe the amount of heroic dungeons.

First I've heard of Harrison Jones' return. So he finally got a rez?

 

[J-Rzez]

First I've heard of Harrison Jones' return. So he finally got a rez?

Last I remember is freeing him in Grizzly Hills. Did I miss him elsewhere?

 

[Weenerz]

Almost 100% sure he was the guy opening the door to ZA after hitting the gong.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Almost 100% sure he was the guy opening the door to ZA after hitting the gong.

You are 100% correct.

 

[dimb]

First I've heard of Harrison Jones' return. So he finally got a rez?

This kind of displays how lazy, boring, and predictable Blizzard's writing is these days. They realize nobody cares about the text so they just create a bunch of pop culture reference character names for people to notice.

Harrison Jones is decent as a throw away character. Now he's coming back tied to the new major profession. Completely horrid. It's no wonder that even the people who were at least following the lore have given up on it.

 

[J-Rzez]

Almost 100% sure he was the guy opening the door to ZA after hitting the gong.

I meant after that. I know he's an escort quest in Grizzly Hills, I thought they meant he was killed after that again lol.

This kind of displays how lazy, boring, and predictable Blizzard's writing is these days. They realize nobody cares about the text so they just create a bunch of pop culture reference character names for people to notice.

Harrison Jones is decent as a throw away character. Now he's coming back tied to the new major profession. Completely horrid. It's no wonder that even the people who were at least following the lore have given up on it.

I don't know, I'd rather see some humorous character along the lines of him, rather than another "Old Rustbeard" the dwarf or something along those lines.

 

[border]

Harrison Jones is decent as a throw away character. Now he's coming back tied to the new major profession. Completely horrid. It's no wonder that even the people who were at least following the lore have given up on it.

How is a secondary profession really tied that much to lore? Why would anyone who cares about lore really give a shit about an NPC that is little more than a recipe/training vendor?

 

[Belfast]

How is a secondary profession really tied that much to lore? Why would anyone who cares about lore really give a shit about an NPC that is little more than a recipe/training vendor?

People looking for a nit to pick, evidently. Blizzard's never been one to eschew nerdy or pop culture references, what's the big surprise? It has nothing to do with the way they are "these days." They've always been that way.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

This kind of displays how lazy, boring, and predictable Blizzard's writing is these days. They realize nobody cares about the text so they just create a bunch of pop culture reference character names for people to notice.

Harrison Jones is decent as a throw away character. Now he's coming back tied to the new major profession. Completely horrid. It's no wonder that even the people who were at least following the lore have given up on it.

People used to call it Secrets, easter eggs and homages. I always loved all these small heart warming we-dont-take-ourselves-to-seriously moments, back in the old RTS games as well.

It's a balance I think.

 

[speedpop]

PC Gamer just stating pre-Blizzcon info that MMO Champ was speculating towards Cataclysm. Can't see Thrall being a new Guardian, or Cairne being executed.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Does anybody plays on Galora ?

If so, send a PM, i'll send you my WOW id.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

PC Gamer just stating pre-Blizzcon info that MMO Champ was speculating towards Cataclysm. Can't see Thrall being a new Guardian, or Cairne being executed.

I can see Thrall becoming the new Guardian but I'm not sure what that does to the comic since Med'an is the next Guardian.

 

[thatbox]

Illidan & Mal'Ganis >>>>> your server

we almost killed heroic saurfang last night, but we had a dps disconnect and was offline for an hour due to the que

Okay.

 

[firex]

Anybody complaining about recent pop culture references in WoW has been ignoring the game from the start. Virtually every classic zone has at least one or two references, especially obscure ones, while they start getting more popular/obvious as you get further into the game.

There's also some references to Tigole and Furor's old EQ characters/guilds in the game, especially Tigole. Like the ogre quest giver Mudcrush Durtfeet was one of his EQ characters, and in Strath (the 60 instance) you can see a burned down armor/weapon shop called Legacy of Steel.

 

[FLEABttn]

My friends and I enjoyed the references in WoW to other things. We found it to be a nice contract to the self reach-around that most high fantasy "lore" is.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

This kind of displays how lazy, boring, and predictable Blizzard's writing is these days. They realize nobody cares about the text so they just create a bunch of pop culture reference character names for people to notice.

Harrison Jones is decent as a throw away character. Now he's coming back tied to the new major profession. Completely horrid. It's no wonder that even the people who were at least following the lore have given up on it.

ITT (AGAIN): complaining about things as if they were new instead of how they have been around since the very beginning. NOSTALGIA GLASSES.

Hemit Nesingwary, Linken, Muigin, Larion, Hadoken Swiftstrider, Finkle Einhorn, Timmy the Cruel, etc etc.

 

[border]

I had a roommate that played Warcraft 3 and half of the stupid dialogue when you clicked on a unit was always some groanworthy uber-lame Monty Python reference. Was the series ever that serious about its lore?

 

[Rapstah]

I had a roommate that played Warcraft 3 and half of the stupid dialogue when you clicked on a unit was always some groanworthy uber-lame Monty Python reference. Was the series ever that serious about its lore?

Yeah, skirmish battles and what units said when you clicked them 40 times were always canon.

 

[border]

It's not as if WoW itself isn't riddled with Mony Python stuff as well.

 

[Belfast]

People have this weird need to make incongruous game elements fit together neatly (see: the fanboys who obsess over putting together a Zelda series timeline).

I just don't see a problem with having both serious plot threads and goofy pop culture references in the same game, and it's not any trouble for me to separate the two, like it seems to be for some people.

It's a bit of a crapshoot sometimes whether or not they decide to make something initially silly canon in the future, but rarely does it have some grandiose impact on the storyline. And if it does, who cares? It's comic relief. It's part of Blizzard's charm, and it takes the piss out of all those fantasy games/novels/films too busy being all brooding and sober to provide a good time.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

People have this weird need to make incongruous game elements fit together neatly (see: the fanboys who obsess over putting together a Zelda series timeline).

I just don't see a problem with having both serious plot threads and goofy pop culture references in the same game, and it's not any trouble for me to separate the two, like it seems to be for some people.

It's a bit of a crapshoot sometimes whether or not they decide to make something initially silly canon in the future, but rarely does it have some grandiose impact on the storyline. And if it does, who cares? It's comic relief. It's part of Blizzard's charm, and it takes the piss out of all those fantasy games/novels/films too busy being all brooding and sober to provide a good time.

Agreed. And if anything it adds lots of personallity to the game.

Look at Age of Conan and Warhammer. Marketing suggested them being darker and more adult focused, but I don't see it.

The thing with WoW is that it has a very serious plot with many characters and endless wars, but with the comedy strapped alongside it. Look at the Gnome Races... Mechanical Choppers driving down vertically mountains, and a entire zoo of rideable animals near the auction houses.
You just filter out that stuff, and not let it ruin the immersion.

 

[vitaminwateryum]

Finally re-upped my account again today! Haven't played since pre-BC so a good amount of this stuff is new to me. Any specific servers that a majority of GAFers play on or are the majority of people just spread out?

 

[Akim]

Finally!

Spoiler

months behind

 

[Gravijah]

Finally re-upped my account again today! Haven't played since pre-BC so a good amount of this stuff is new to me. Any specific servers that a majority of GAFers play on or are the majority of people just spread out?

I play on Rexxar myself. It's horrible. :lol

 

[Retro]

Finally re-upped my account again today! Haven't played since pre-BC so a good amount of this stuff is new to me. Any specific servers that a majority of GAFers play on or are the majority of people just spread out?

A few people have tried to do a GAF Server, but it inevitably fails for one reason or another.

Maybe something to consider trying again for the cataclysm launch, since a lot of people will be rerolling anyways?

 

[CAW]

I'm a bit behind on the Cataclysm news, but has there been any mention of whether or not Blizzard is going to allow race changes to the two new races or not?

I mean on one hand I see them saying no so people will have a chance to explore the new race areas and any/all changes to other areas while leveling (saving up badges for heirlooms myself).

However at $30 a pop, they'd make a fortune if they allowed people to just pay for the race change (although we'd see a ton of higher and lower leveled Goblins and Worgen).

 

[Tamanon]

I'm a bit behind on the Cataclysm news, but has there been any mention of whether or not Blizzard is going to allow race changes to the two new races or not?

I mean on one hand I see them saying no so people will have a chance to explore the new race areas and any/all changes to other areas while leveling (saving up badges for heirlooms myself).

However at $30 a pop, they'd make a fortune if they allowed people to just pay for the race change (although we'd see a ton of higher and lower leveled Goblins and Worgen).

They'll probably just allow race changes to the new ones a few months after release.

 

[firex]

I'm a bit behind on the Cataclysm news, but has there been any mention of whether or not Blizzard is going to allow race changes to the two new races or not?

I mean on one hand I see them saying no so people will have a chance to explore the new race areas and any/all changes to other areas while leveling (saving up badges for heirlooms myself).

However at $30 a pop, they'd make a fortune if they allowed people to just pay for the race change (although we'd see a ton of higher and lower leveled Goblins and Worgen).

They aren't going to right away, but probably will 6 months to a year after Cataclysm comes out.

 

[CAW]

Oh, cool. Makes sense that way. Thanks for the info, guys.

 

[Touchdown]

This is my first time playing through WOW and I'm loving it so far. I know I'm way late . I'm a level 34 feral druid and all I've really been doing is quests the whole time. When do I get into the whole raids/guilds stuff and take on bosses? Also should there be stuff to level up faster or anything? Any help or advice would be appreciated

 

[moojito]

It's generally best to wait til you reach level 80 before doing raids/instances, unless you have a group of friends to do them with. People running instances while levelling up will (sadly) expect you to know exactly what you're doing, and it probably won't be a good time.

You can queue for battlegounds while questing for a bit of something different, if you like that kind of thing. Arathi basin is a domination type game, and Warsong gulch is capture the flag.

Guilds are good. Guild chat is probably what keeps people playing the game more than anything else. I'd be wary of guilds you see people shouting out about in cities. If they say "whisper for invite!" or similar, they're obviously just accepting anyone, and it's probably going to be like an AOL chatroom in there.
If you meet some people on your travels who seem cool and your type of person, you can ask them if their guild is inviting. That's how I'd do it, anyway.

When you reach level 80 you can buy items to send to other low level characters you have to make it go faster, but you can't get them your first time round.

 

[firex]

The only items you get to help you level up faster require you to have a level 80 character first. But if you want to fight bosses and stuff, you should be using the dungeon finder. It might not work as well as you want it to, especially since as a feral druid you will probably be expected to tank. But, you can just check the box for DPS and ignore tanking, since I think tanking can be hard for new players.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

This is my first time playing through WOW and I'm loving it so far. I know I'm way late . I'm a level 34 feral druid and all I've really been doing is quests the whole time. When do I get into the whole raids/guilds stuff and take on bosses? Also should there be stuff to level up faster or anything? Any help or advice would be appreciated

I'd start instancing now honestly. To me it'd be a lot more fun if I was playing my first time. Before the expansions,finding groups wasn't hard, there were a lot of new people, and it was a fun time for the low level instances. They aren't made to be super hard for new people. I'd take advantage of the cross dungeon feature. Learning to play you character is important. If people get pissed because you do something wrong say "making mistakes and learning from them is important to wow and life."

I'd find a guild. Making friends is great.