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notworksafe
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That's why I moved /2 and /3 into their own chat tab. That way I can look at it only when I need to.J-Rzez said:
Sax Russel
Banned
Fularu said:
I agree with most of what you said, really we just differ on one point: how much content hard modes offer up. In terms of ICC, I just don't believe they offered much. Sure, Arthas is a drastically different fight than on normal, but it's the exception, most of the others are just hitting harder with maybe a new/modified ability thrown in.
It ends up being a pretty lame reason to effectively double the amount of time people have to be in ICC before Cata, over previous pre-expansion raids. I've also just never been a fan of the "Well if you haven't done zero lights/Tribute to Immortality/heroic LK you're not allowed to be bored of it yet" point of view.
Anyone looking to reroll one last toon before cata comes out? I just resubbed and I want to replay. I used to have some friends to level with but I don't for now and it sucks leveling alone. I'm Horde; Orc Shaman. Thinking of either Wildhammer (main server) or Frostwolf (friend server who has raf).
I'm looking to play for about an hour or two a day. If anyones interested let me know, maybe we could talk it out. Just boring to level alone (not grouping but its fun to compete with people around your level)
I'm looking to play for about an hour or two a day. If anyones interested let me know, maybe we could talk it out. Just boring to level alone (not grouping but its fun to compete with people around your level)
I'm in the same position and would love to play. Only problem is my account is EU and I have a feeling you're in the US.McNei1y said:
The only real-life friend I had playing unsubscribed while the characters we were levelling together, non-RAF, were at level 38. I'm logged in for 20 minutes a day now trying to figure out what to do.
Rapstah said:I'm in the same position and would love to play. Only problem is my account is EU and I have a feeling you're in the US.
The only real-life friend I had playing unsubscribed while the characters we were levelling together, non-RAF, were at level 38. I'm logged in for 20 minutes a day now trying to figure out what to do.
Damn! I am US : \.
That sucks. You were right in the middle of it. Such a waste. :lol
I've played by myself before but usually characters 60 and above. Leveling toons I have always done with friends. Kind of sucks actually. No competing or grouping together.
notworksafe
Member
They are pretty good at refunding people time when service times gets out of control.kai3345 said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's more like a few hours, dude.kai3345 said:
You're losing like 30 cents.
The biggest issue I have with this is due to my career. As I've said before, I work in Law Enforcement. All officers and agents are "suggested" to not have anything on the net about yourself for reasons of lawyers searching for things to use against you in court (I know one trooper who had this happen very recently), or as a way for people to be able to find any form of personal info on you to extract various forms/levels of revenge against you.
Now I'm not going to even be able to post for contests, or if I would feel like taking part in a conversation with a developer during their threads where you talk with them (when I find out about them from people talking in game/guild mates).
This is terrible the more and more I think about it. I don't have a facebook, twitter, myspace for this reason alone. Now there's another avenue people may look at.
Also, regarding Blizzard's security:
Good show Blizzard, who knows how much info people will be able to hack from your account when this goes live.
Now I'm not going to even be able to post for contests, or if I would feel like taking part in a conversation with a developer during their threads where you talk with them (when I find out about them from people talking in game/guild mates).
This is terrible the more and more I think about it. I don't have a facebook, twitter, myspace for this reason alone. Now there's another avenue people may look at.
Also, regarding Blizzard's security:
Good show Blizzard, who knows how much info people will be able to hack from your account when this goes live.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
J-Rzez said:
Angry Grimace said:
I tend to act like an infusion of only the best LE characters on TV. Horatio Caine, Vic Mackey, and various Steven Seagal characters. So far, so good.
On a slightly more serious note than that:
This maybe the thing to finally seal the fate of me playing this game. Here I thought it would be; Lack of content, recycled art, recycled instances/raids, Druids... Consider me surprised. I can't use Facebook for my family relations, and now I can't play games neither. WTF...
Just dont post on the WoW Forums (Why would you want to anyways?) and plop parental control to enabled on your battle.net account.
It would prevent that info from getting out.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=10001&sid=1
As of right now there is a 474 page thread of displeasure about it.
They may in the end backpedal on their decision.
It would prevent that info from getting out.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=10001&sid=1
As of right now there is a 474 page thread of displeasure about it.
They may in the end backpedal on their decision.
Xabora said:
If they backpedaled that would mean they actually even remotely cared about their community. I'd highly doubt it will be their "users" that will make them change this. Rather, I believe things will run deeper, like my situation, which will force their hand to change it. And they can have all the legal jargon they want, someone will find a way to get a case against them when something happens to the wrong person.
I posted on those forums for contests. Now, I won't be able to do such a thing anymore, effectively snuffing out my chances to win anything.
You can be bored, no problems, you're just in no position to complain that the content to beat isn't there. That's the whole thingSax Russel said:
And lets be honest, 0 light is nothing like 4 lights
Edit : well "was", now it doesn't mean much. I should do it on my warrior one day
What would someone recommend about rerolling. I am by myself. I can either reroll a new guy to catch up to two guys on Frostwolf. I decided I'd start to play with them but they have RAF and have like 60s they are playing so it's like I won't really be playing with them until RAF is up and/or I get a DK up. That avoids the point though, I want to level to do the content one last time. OR I could play on my main server where I have all my money but really nothing to play for when I reach a high level. :lol Plus I want to level an Orc Shaman but I already have a 70 Troll Shaman :lol Maybe I'll go hunter.
A pretty simple problem but it seems to suck when you don't have anyone to play with. Anyone rerolling?
A pretty simple problem but it seems to suck when you don't have anyone to play with. Anyone rerolling?
zero margin
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McNei1y said:
I know what you're saying, I have a couple friends on my main server but they're hardcore horde (so was I in the past but now I don't care) and have been playing in established guilds where I have fallen behind, the ugly occurrence that happens when you stop playing this game. They want me to come back but I'm not sure I want to go that route anymore.
Long story short I think a few of us are in similar positions and could maybe make something happen? Fun to talk about at the very least :lol This is my last hurrah with this game and while I never expect to recapture the fun that that I had in vanilla I would like to at least not have to do everything solo.
zero margin said:
Exactly. I was "hardcore" in Vanilla and have slowly declined since BC. I had about 6 friends to play with then and slowly they dropped off one by one. Now its basically just me but I still have fun with hopping in to pvp and experience the raids but nothing long term. I am really interested in rerolling because that's whats interesting me right now. I will probably reroll once more when the new content comes out but I think I'm steadily getting away from wow. If your interested let me know.
Vizionblind
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Vizionblind said:
Man, I can't believe how fast that thread has been moving. And think about it, even Blizzard said a very-very small part of their players actually post on the forums. Imagine if and when the majority of their fanbase finds out about this.
I'm convinced now that they're trying to hurt WoW on purpose. It's like they're tired of it and want it to die.
Who is calling these shots? Who there believes this is a great idea? It's going to:
1. Allow females to get harassed/stalked non-stop
2. Allow minorities, or people of other races from your own, get trolled to hell, or even ignored.
3. Allow people to grief far more people, and not just in-game anymore.
4. Allow others to track you and your actions (employers, judges, authorities, etc) and hold you accountable to them. People had their "Facebook" come back and bite them, this will be another avenue.
5. Allow hackers to have a field day with people's accounts.
I can't believe Blizzard is going against their primary notion of "privacy/security is the first rule". I'm actually disgusted that they're selling out their user-base. Such an arrogant/ignorant developer who has gotten too big for their own good. This goes live, this can become their "jedi's for everyone!". It was a fun game while it lasted.
There are MVPs that are saying they will stop posting in entirety if this goes through.J-Rzez said:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374700&postId=256237654645&sid=1#15404
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i can see how it would be a bad idea, but also a good idea.
bad idea: personal info is out there.
good idea: chances are that personal info is ALREADY out there. so its actually not a big deal. but it will make people on wow forums actually care what they write and not be involved in flamefests as frequently if they care about keeping their name clean
bad idea: personal info is out there.
good idea: chances are that personal info is ALREADY out there. so its actually not a big deal. but it will make people on wow forums actually care what they write and not be involved in flamefests as frequently if they care about keeping their name clean
Acidote
Member
davepoobond said:
It's not about "keeping your name clean" on the forum. It's about not wanting my employeer to do a google search with my name and see me posting on a game forum (or any of my hobbys forum). I don't even add coworkers to skype or facebook (with privacy settings properly set).
Xabora said:
I'd believe it when I see them cancel.
davepoobond said:
Personal info is out there, unfortunately. But, this will give the crazies in WoW an opportunity to grief you in real life. Won that item over them? Kick them from a group? Don't choose them for a raid? Tell them to stfu in trade? Undercut them on the AH? Have better gear than them? Beat them in a duel? Gank them? These are just some of the reasons for which will set people off and get them to get even crazier and try to grief your real life. People in WoW are nuts, some of the craziest-obsessive people I have ever met. People whored themselves in real life for 5,000g for epic flying.
Now people can target you specifically for any of those reasons and more, like your gender, race, etc.
The way to solve this? Get some real moderators for a game so successful it's needed. Make people choose their "main" to post as, with a quick link to all their other characters on their account like I suggested before. Case closed.
This is just a step towards them contracting out your personal information in a monetary contract that we don't know about yet. Why else would they go against their golden rule of "privacy is king and number 1"?
On a side note
Has any major media sites picked up on this and expressed concerns?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Acidote said:
then dont post. thats why you dont have coworkers on skype or facebook, this is no different. find alternate methods if you dont agree with their rules, its just like any other site.
and its not just for the forum's sake of keeping your name clean -- it would be for anyone who searches your name and "oh we found out you're a racist who posts on world of warcraft forums"
J-Rzez said:
i dont see how that would be so much of an issue considering i don't believe you are required to link any toons to your profile, but i suppose that remains to be seen. Yes, all those concerns are what they are -- concerns. But I don't see how its anymore dangerous than cutting someone off on the freeway who jots down your car license plate number, finds you at home and voices their concern about how they didnt like that and then beat you to death.
if it becomes harassment, that's what laws and /ignore is for.
the simple way to solve any of that is to simply not post. If Blizzard cares about keeping forums full of people, then they'll change certain settings to make it not so apparent "WHO" you are in the game. If they don't, then thats their prerogative and anyone who posts on forums using their real name is taking that chance.
Mr Nash
square pies = communism
I guess Canadians that have a problem with it can lodge a complaint with the Privacy Commissioner. I know MySpace was required to change how they operated in Canada because of how they handled privacy. Not sure if there's a similar legislative body in the US that Ameri-GAF can get in touch with.
http://www.priv.gc.ca/index_e.cfm
I wouldn't post on the WoW forums if my life depended on it, but I still think it's a boneheaded decision on Blizzard's part.
http://www.priv.gc.ca/index_e.cfm
I wouldn't post on the WoW forums if my life depended on it, but I still think it's a boneheaded decision on Blizzard's part.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
The biggest difference is that from when a post is made, it carries my full legal name forever with no way of removing it. You might cut someone off on accident but you are aware of them and they are aware of you. If something happens and you dog is poisoned the police will ask if there is anyone that you think might have done this. You can respond "There was this crazy dude in a Ford F-350 that was yelling that he'd kill me last week." With your real name on the forums forever, you dont know if you set someone off with an offhand comment 6 months or 6 years earlier. You have no clue who the person harassing you would be since they have your info and you have absolutely dick because you posted with divulging your full name and they just read your post.davepoobond said:
edit: not to mention stalkers or my ex that said hed kill me if he couldnt have me that took me 5 years to shake or pranksters doing shit for the lulz or whatever the fuck. Who gives a shit? i dont want my name out there.
Haven't played in ages but I've seen this news spread throughout my gaming sites.
If bettering the official forum community is the goal, why don't they take a logical first step and just tie the account to each post. Meaning I can see their main despite them posting on a level whatever alt. Obviously personal information could be kept private that way. That would make those with secret alts mad however.
Another option would be to force all forum posts to be from their character with the most /played. Or maybe allow people to see all max level character that account has.
Though those options are not that great, anything would be better than this ID stuff. Glad it isn't retroactive, though I doubt they even retain posts from ~05.
If bettering the official forum community is the goal, why don't they take a logical first step and just tie the account to each post. Meaning I can see their main despite them posting on a level whatever alt. Obviously personal information could be kept private that way. That would make those with secret alts mad however.
Another option would be to force all forum posts to be from their character with the most /played. Or maybe allow people to see all max level character that account has.
Though those options are not that great, anything would be better than this ID stuff. Glad it isn't retroactive, though I doubt they even retain posts from ~05.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Even if somehow having names got rid of trolls (it doesnt, see Facebook) what exactly is Blizzard suggesting? That someone go find the trolls house and murder them? That threats of physical violence will somehow keep people in line? :loldevilhawk said:
What happens when your account gets hacked (it will eventually) and for the time the gold seller has you account they spout off a bunch of racist or homophobic shit thats tied to your legal name and its from then on logged into Google forever? Good luck getting that job when the person looking at your application comes across the spree that some scammer from Mmowned did while using your name to call a bunch of people n^ggers, f^gs, and k^kes.
That's a good point. Back in my day everyone shared their account login with their friends as it was the only way to rank up in pvp. No one ever got hacked either. Of my friends that still play, I believe all of them have been hacked at one point or another. Using real names would seem to make the ramifications of an inevitable hacking worse.water_wendi said:
AdventureRacing
Member
I don't post on the WoW forums. My concern is mostly if my account gets hacked. If they went and posted on the WoW forums it would be under my real name.
I don't want my name being associated with offensive, racist or potentially illegal posts.
Yes i have an authenticator but that isn't fool proof.
I'm not saying im really worried but im not really happy about the change.
I also think there are other ways of dealing with trolling like moderating the forums. Blizzard should have moderators who give harsh penalties for people who blatantly troll.
I don't want my name being associated with offensive, racist or potentially illegal posts.
Yes i have an authenticator but that isn't fool proof.
I'm not saying im really worried but im not really happy about the change.
I also think there are other ways of dealing with trolling like moderating the forums. Blizzard should have moderators who give harsh penalties for people who blatantly troll.
zero margin
Member
Paranoia is running a little high I think, I ask for strangers names, phone numbers, etc all day long over the phone and rarely do I get a refusal. People aren't going to come knocking on your door because you undercut someone on the AH.
This is actually a good point that I hadn't considered. What I'm curious about is how so many people get hacked. How is it even possible? Is there something I need to worry about in-game that can cause it? I haven't used the authenticator because it seems like it'd kinf ob e a pain in the ass.. why is it absolutely necessary?devilhawk said:
The authenticator is only a pain in the ass if you always disconnect, but then your connection itself is already a pain in the ass.Meier said:
People get hacked because their security is often compromised and they don't realise it. An authenticator helps as in, it's almost fully protecting your account. Also they are free if you have an iphone, 1$ if you have a different phone or 6$ if you buy the physical version. they are cheap and secure, you really should get one.
Again, how are people even getting hacked in the first place though? How is it so prevalent? If you only play from your house, how is some random (usually foreign) hacker getting into people's accounts? Is there something that you need to worry about in the game?Fularu said:
I do have an iPhone so I suppose I should get it.
Meier said:
I can't remember doing anything that could possibly compromise my account, was inactive for months, and somehow I was hacked at an indeterminate time earlier this year. Fortunately they didn't take anything and just began using the account or sold it to someone. I just got it back and added the iPhone/iPod authenticator. Absolutely no reason not to do so.
It's a far smaller pain in the ass than getting hacked and having to go through that process.
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