DarkAngelYuna
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The iphone armory is actually pretty damn nice...
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World of Warcraft
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Evlar said:
Yeah, or it'll tell you to "stop casting" or "move". It does come in handy though. The timers for bg's are very very nice as well. There's some great mods for this game.
DarkAngelYuna said:
Never saw the iphone version, I just have the one on my droid. It's not too bad.
yacobod said:
Love the game, it's the best out there in this genre. Just hate it that it seems it's neglected at times for being the most successful MMO ever, that makes millions of dollars a month. Just how I feel about it. Never had such a love-hate relationship with a game before. :lol
Viva la Hybrid Tax!
notworksafe
Member
If you think WoW is neglected, you should see some other MMOs out there. :lol
And some can't pull the "less money" card. EA, Square-Enix, and Sony being prime examples.
And some can't pull the "less money" card. EA, Square-Enix, and Sony being prime examples.
LAUGHTREY said:
Of course not, people who complain about Blizzard doing a shitty job on their maintenance job are just as oblivious as those guys at my hospital that complain how their monitor is shit, that the screen is black, when in fact the monitor is just not correctly plugged in or their damn PC is turned off.
In short: "im not good with computer"
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Mm, while I understand the extra down time they really need to cut ou the shitty updates about it, oh hey guys it will be up in 1 hour, a hour later " jk another hour" and repeating that 5 times each Tuesday. They need to quit giving those updates that they know they won't make.Bisnic said:
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
but i thought it was free to maintain servers! (this is a reference to another thread where "costs of server maintenance" was an issue)
Bisnic said:
I do know in my line of work I hear "why are you guys cracking down on this problem", "why aren't you patrolling this area more", "why aren't you slowing down people here"? Answer: Lack of budget to put more people on the street.
Hey, people like to vent and complain to me, why can't I do the same? I'd assume Blizzard is in a little better shape to address things though due to their income. And, there's plenty of dead give aways they're not putting a total effort into other aspects, so why couldn't you question this as well?
DarkAngelYuna said:
And that is what I said earlier. Just say, "shits going to be down for a long time, and will be up eventually. But this has been getting progressively worse over time.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
I bet if you thought about it, not too hard so the brain throbbing breaks through the soft spot in your skull, that as they progressively work on it they can give updates on when it will be out.
Shit comes up, stuff can happen at the last second. You're full of shit if you said you'd rather them tell you "it'll be up when it's up" instead of giving hourly updates.
Shit comes up, stuff can happen at the last second. You're full of shit if you said you'd rather them tell you "it'll be up when it's up" instead of giving hourly updates.
Sax Russel
Banned
At some point you have to think Blizzard is just trolling people, "They'll be up in an hour" eight times :lol
notworksafe
Member
LAUGHTREY said:
"Servers will be up when they're done."
HarryDemeanor
Member
Another beta build is going up today. Beta realms are down for maintenance so let's hope.
Fularu said:
i stopped 25m raiding in late march or early april, we cleared 9/12 h-modes before disbanding, lately i hop in game once or twice a week and just pug shit from time to time when it suits me, be it 10 or 25m, i've contemplated apping to a guild to raid in a more organized fashion but honestly i dont want to commit to a raid schedule, 2 nights would be perfect, but most guilds do 3-4 nights
Taking a break from raiding is a really good thing once in a while. I've had a 4 months break earlier this year and it really made me want to raid again 
The only downside is that I've missed my guild's first (and sadly, so far the only one... 18% today goddamnit) LK heroic guild, but whatever. It really really makes you want raid again
The only downside is that I've missed my guild's first (and sadly, so far the only one... 18% today goddamnit) LK heroic guild, but whatever. It really really makes you want raid againIt doesn't take a genius to understand that you're awfull. I mean just reading you is enough.J-Rzez said:
Also you're the biggest crybaby to ever grace this thread and we all know how crybabies are usually bad.
yacobod said:
We're currently aiming at clearing it all in one night. Hallion HM is the only one preventing us from doing it right now (the last few percents are insane and caused more wipes combined than Arthas
)Good thing you threw in that "usually" bad. Instead of the definitive your guild is garbage and you suck like before. Best part is we're the number 1 10-man guild on the server. I'd tell you to go back to the official forums where you belong, but ignore is much easier.
I look forward to hopefully meeting people like you in bg's since they're opening them up, then when you get owned by a bad you can feel better about yourself.
And for the record, this game is not hard in the slightest. It's a gear-checking, RNG, common sense-a-thon. Especially with all these add ons these days. PVP takes far more skill.
EDIT: Oops, just saw you say I'm awful again, without knowing my characters, my achievements, nor seeing me in action. Another official wow-forum tough guy here folks.
I look forward to hopefully meeting people like you in bg's since they're opening them up, then when you get owned by a bad you can feel better about yourself.
And for the record, this game is not hard in the slightest. It's a gear-checking, RNG, common sense-a-thon. Especially with all these add ons these days. PVP takes far more skill.
EDIT: Oops, just saw you say I'm awful again, without knowing my characters, my achievements, nor seeing me in action. Another official wow-forum tough guy here folks.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Flib said:
... and will the real hardcore gamer please stand up! please stand up!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Videogames are serious business.
Yeah, on the boss of the PoS with the stack I just pop Magic Shell on my DK, it's simpler than running around.
My brother is playing a warrior and doesn't even bother moving
I respec-ed blood to tank on my DK, doesn't have the same feel as the frost spec. It feels slower than the frost dual. Probably just gotta get used to it. However I was topping the dps-meter, felt good man
My brother is playing a warrior and doesn't even bother moving
I respec-ed blood to tank on my DK, doesn't have the same feel as the frost spec. It feels slower than the frost dual. Probably just gotta get used to it. However I was topping the dps-meter, felt good man
SloppehSlawlz
Neo Member
Oh my.
DarkAngelYuna
Banned
Anyone missing people from their Real ID friends list tonight after the down time?
Alex
Member
First thought when I see Female Worgen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=achYHwgMIGs
HarryDemeanor
Member
SloppehSlawlz said:
Oh my.
And the already made Worgen look like this!
Some much needed Warlock changes, especially to Demonology.
Rolling all the Improved Pet talents into one should have been done a long time ago.
I wouldnt say Demo is now complete(still has Improved Health Funnel) but its at least playable now.
No changes to DKs. DKs can still barely function in the beta.
Rolling all the Improved Pet talents into one should have been done a long time ago.
I wouldnt say Demo is now complete(still has Improved Health Funnel) but its at least playable now.
No changes to DKs. DKs can still barely function in the beta.
Weenerz said:
Holy shit that's hilarious. That actually probably makes Thunder Clap superior to Consecrate. The thing I envied about Thunder Clap is its "snap" aggro element, whereas with Consecrate takes a few ticks to build up threat. Now Thunder Clap seems to have best of both worlds.
The changes to the paladin are super interesting. It's making me want to re-sub, switch my prot pally's offspec from holy to ret, and level a separate pally as holy.
I just love what they're doing with all 3 trees. And holy didn't really make sense as an off spec as a tank, "Oh we don't need an extra tank for this fight? K I'll switch over and be our 4th healer"rikitikitik
Member
Anyone kind enough to post the beta patch notes here? Web filters suck.
I'm assuming soul leech is still a proc and not guaranteed, because otherwise, 10% health/mana returned when you nuke something is like absurdly overpowered.
Also it might just be me, but I feel like tier 1 affliction is too crowded and not very interesting. Any affliction warlock would want all 3 talents but it feels to me like improved curse of agony/corruption are both pretty lame.
Also it might just be me, but I feel like tier 1 affliction is too crowded and not very interesting. Any affliction warlock would want all 3 talents but it feels to me like improved curse of agony/corruption are both pretty lame.
Death Knight (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Blood
* Dark Simulacrum now costs 20 Runic Power and has a 1 min cooldown. (Old - No cost, 2 min cooldown)
Frost
* Icy Touch no longer generates very high threat when in Frost Presence.
Unholy
* Anti-Magic Shell - Damage absorbed no longer energizes the DK with additional runic power.
* Ebon Plaguebringer now also affects Chains of Ice
* Ghoul Frenzy now grants your pet 50% haste. (Up from 25%)
* Unholy Frenzy now increases melee and ranged haste by 20%. (Up from 10%)
Druid (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Balance
* Sleep (Tier 6) - Puts nearby enemies to sleep for up to 6 sec. Any damage caused will awaken them. / 80 Mana, 30 yd range, 1.5 sec cast
* Feral Swiftness is now a Tier 1 Talent. Down from Tier 2.
Hunter (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Survival
* Counterattack no longer costs mana.
Mage (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Arcane
* Mage Armor is now trained at level 68. Up from 64.
* Arcane Explosion is now trained at level 58. Up from 56.
* Mana Shield is now trained at level 46. Down from 52.
* Arcane Intellect is now trained at level 52. Up from 48.
* Conjure Mana Gem is now trained at level 48. Up from 46.
* Slow Fall is now trained at level 32. Up from 26.
Fire
* Frostfire Bolt is now trained at level 56. Down from 68.
* Molten Armor is now trained at level 64. Up from 54.
* Scorch is now trained at level 26. Down from 32.
Frost
* Frost Nova is now trained at level 8. Down from 9.
* Frostbolt is now trained at level 7. Down from 8.
* Frost Armor is now trained at level 54. Up from 7.
Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Holy
* Healing Hands now has a 1 min cooldown.
* Divine Plea is now trained at level 58. Down from 68.
* Light's Beacon now affects each heal you cast on the target instead of just Holy Light and Holy Shock. Now heals the beacon for 50%. (Down from 100%)
* Holy Wrath no longer scales from attack power and deals 2400 Holy damage divided among all targets within 10 yards.
* Holy Shock now grants a charge of Holy Power.
* Seal of Wisdom is gone.
* Seal of the Pure now seems to have a chance to restore the Paladin's mana.
* Holy Light is now trained at level 14. Up from 5.
* Divine Light - A large heal that heals a friendly target for 7761.99 to 8648.14. Good for periods of heavy damage. / 30% of base mana, 40 yd range, 2.5 sec cast
* Divine Favor now increases your chance to critically hit with your next Word of Glory, Holy Shock, Flash of Light, Holy Light or Divine Light by 100%. / Instant, 1 min cooldown
* Denounce - You have a 50/100% chance when any of your Holy spells get a critical effect to make your next Exorcism spell instant and cost no mana.
* Sacred Cleansing is now a Tier 4 Talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Infusion of Light is now a Tier 3 Talent. Down from Tier 4. It now only affects Holy Light. (No longer affects Divine Light)
* Blessed Life is now a Tier 6 Talent. Up from Tier 4.
* Enlightened Judgements is now a Tier 3 Talent. Down from Tier 4.
* Healing Light now affects Words of Glory.
* Tower of Radiance (NYI) *New* - Directly healing the target of your Beacon of Light has a % chance to generate Holy Power.
* Judgements of the Pure is now a Tier 1 talent. Down from Tier 2.
* Sanctified Light now affects Word of Glory and increases critical chance by 6/12%. (Up from 5/10%)
* Speed of Light *New* - Casting Holy Shock grants 5/10/30% spell haste for your next Flash of Light, Holy Light or Divine Light, and casting Healing Hands grants you 10/20/60% movement speed for 10 sec. Also lowers the cooldown on Healing Hands by 10/20/30 sec at all times.
* Clarity of Purpose *New* - Reduces the casting time of your Holy Light and Divine Light spells by 0.1/0.2/0.3 sec.
Protection
* Shield of Righteousness is now trained at level 44. Down from 74.
* Sacred Duty now only Reduces the cooldown of Divine Protection by 1/2/3 min.
* Improved Crusader Strike has been replaced with Grand Crusader - When your Shield of Righteousness and Hammer of Righteousness deal damage, they have a 20% chance of refreshing the cooldown on your next Crusader Strike and causing it to hit for 50/100% additional damage.
* Ardent Defender is now a Tier 4 talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Divine Guardian is now a single rank talent and has been revamped (but is probably NYI) - Party or raid members within 30 take 20% reduced damage for 6 sec.
* Holy Shield has been revamped - Increases your chance to block by 30% for 10 sec, and deals 97.8 Holy damage for every attack blocked. Consumes Holy Power to extend duration by 10 sec per stack of Holy Power. / 10% of base mana, Instant cast, 1 min cooldown
* Hallowed Ground is now a Tier 3 talent. Down from Tier 4.
* Vindication is now a Tier 5 talent. Up from Tier 4.
* Shield of the Templar is now a Tier 6 talent and has been revamped - Increases the critical strike chance of your Shield of Righteousness by 5/10%. In addition, your Shield of Righteousness critical strikes have a 50/100% chance of making your next Judgement a critical strike.
* Spiritual Attunement is gone.
* Divine Sacrifice is gone.
* Improved Exorcism is now Wrath of the Faithful - Increases the damage by 10/20% and critical strike chance by 10/20% of your Holy Wrath spell.
* Improved Devotion Aura is now Protector of the Innocent - Your Auras reduce your damage taken by 1/2/3% and the amount healed on any target by 2/4/6%.
* Sanctuary Reduces the chance you'll be critically hit by melee attacks by 2/4/6% instead of reducing damage taken from all sources.
* Sacred Oath is gone.
* Reckoning now gives you a 10/20/30% chance after blocking an attack for your next 4 weapon swings within 8 sec to generate an additional attack.
Retribution
* Divine Storm - An instant weapon attack that causes 20% of weapon damage to up to all enemies within 8 yards. The Divine Storm heals up to 3 party or raid members totaling 25% of the damage caused. Consumes all applications of Holy Power to increase damage dealt:
1 Holy Power: 22% Weapon Damage
2 Holy Power: 50% Weapon Damage
3 Holy Power: 90% Weapon Damage / 20% of base mana, Instant cast
* Crusader Strike now grants a charge of Holy Power.
* Inquisition *New* - Consumes Holy Power to increase your Holy Damage by 30%. Lasts 10 sec per charge of Holy Power consumed. / 20% of base mana, Instant cast
* Conviction is now a Tier 2 talent. Down from Tier 6.
* Sanctity of Battle is now a Tier 3 talent. Down from Tier 6. Now reduces cooldown of Exorcism by 3/6 secs. (Up from 2/4 secs)
* Swift Retribution is now a single rank talent increasing melee and ranged attack speed by 20%.
* Fanaticism (Tier 4) is now Improved Judgement (Tier 2) - Increases the damage of your Judgement spell by 15% and decreases its cooldown by 3 sec.
* Judgements of the Wise now grants you 40% of your base mana over 10 sec. (Old - immediately grants you 25% of your base mana)
* The Art of War is now a Tier 4 talent, down from Tier 3. It now has a 15/30% chance to proc from any melee attack (Old - 100% proc from Critical) and no longer reduce the casting time of Holy Light.
* Seals of Retribution is now a Tier 4 talent. Up from Tier 3.
* Eye for an Eye is now a Tier 1 talent. Up from Tier 2. It now gives you a 5/10% chance to cause 30% of the damage taken back to the attacker.
* Righteous Vengeance is now a Tier 6 talent. up from Tier 2.
* Improved Judgements is now Improved Crusader Strike - Increases the damage of your Crusader Strike by 15/30% and decreases its cooldown by 1.5/3 sec.
* Heart of the Crusader is now a Tier 3 (Up from Tier 1) single-rank (Down from 3 ranks) talent.
Priest (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Holy
* Healing Prayers is now Binding Prayers - Reduces the mana cost of your Binding Heal by 5/10%, and your Desperate Prayer also heals the lowest percentage health friendly party or raid target within 40 yards for 50/100% of the amount healed.
Rogue (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Assassination
* Venomous Wounds now also gives you a chance to regain 3/6 Energy.
* Focused Attacks is gone.
* Master Poisoner is now a single rank talent - Increases the spell damage taken by any target you have poisoned by 8%, your Envenom has a 100% chance not to consume Deadly Poison, and the duration of all Poison effects applied to you is reduced by 50%.
* Murderous Intent is now a Tier 5 Talent. Up from Tier 4.
* Deadly Momentum now increases the critical chance of your next attack by 40% at both ranks.
* Deadened Nerves now reduces damage taken by 3/7/10%. (Up from 2/4/6%)
Subtlety
* Shadowstep no increases the damage of your next Ambush or Garrote. (Old - Increased the damage of the next ability)
* Redirect *New* - Transfers any existing combo points to the current enemy target. / 40 yd range, Instant, 1 min cooldown
Shaman (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Elemental
* Elemental Devastation is now an Enhancement talent.
* Ancestral Knowledge is now an Elemental talent.
* Improved Lava Lash is now a 2 Ranks talent (Down from 3). Increases the damage of your Lava Lash ability by 15/30%, and by an additional 10/20% for each of your applications of Searing Flames on the target, consuming those applications in the process.
Enhancement
* Improved Shields is now a Tier 1 talent. Down from Tier 2.
* Ancestral Swiftness is gone.
* Frozen Power *New* - Increases the damage done by your Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Lava Lash and Shock spells by 5/10% on targets afflicted by your Frostbrand Attack effect, and your Frost Shock has a 50/100% chance to root the target in ice for 5 sec. when used on targets at or further than 15 yards from you.
Restoration
* Earth Shield is now trained at level 10. (Down from 50)
Warlock (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Affliction
* Bane of Doom - Curses the target with impending doom, causing 2213.37 Shadow damage every 30 sec. When Bane of Doom deals damage, it has a 25% chance to summon a Demon guardian. Only one Bane per Warlock can be active on any one target. / 15% of base mana, 30 yd range, Instant cast, 1 min cooldown
* Jinx *New* - Your Curse of the Elements also effects all nearby enemy targets within 20/40 yards of the cursed target, and your Curse of the Weakness also reduces the targets energy, rage, focus or runic power generation by 5/10 while active.
Demonology
* Ritual of Doom is now Summon Doomguard - Summons a Doomguard to fight beside you for 45 sec. The Doomguard will assist you by attacking the target which is afflicted by your Bane of Doom or Bane of Agony spell, and will sometimes dispel harmful magic effects from you. / 80% of base mana, Instant cast, 10 min cooldown, Reagents: Demonic Figurine
* Inferno is now Summon Infernal - Summons a meteor from the Twisting Nether, causing 28.87 Fire damage and stunning all enemy targets in the area for 2 sec. An Infernal rises from the crater, under the command of the caster for 1 min. The Infernal deals strong area of effect damage, and will be drawn to attack targets afflited by your Bane of Agony or Bane of Doom spells. / 80% of base mana, 30 yd range, 1.5 sec cast, 10 min cooldown, Reagents: Infernal Stone
* Create Firestone is gone.
* Create Spellstone is gone.
* Detect Invisibility is gone.
* Sense Demons is gone.
* Unending Breath is gone.
* Nemesis is now a Tier 5 Talent. Down from Tier 6. Now 2 ranks, down from 3.
* Molten Core is now a Tier 4 Talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Demonic Brutality is gone.
* Hand of Gul'dan cast time has been increased from 2.5 to 3 sec.
* Ancient Grimoire now increases the duration of your Infernal and Doomguard summons by 10/20 sec. (Up from 6/12 Sec)
* Improved Succubus is gone.
* Improved Healthstone is gone.
* Improved Imp is gone.
* Dark Arts *New* - Reduces the cast time of your Imp's Firebolt spell by 0.25/0.5/0.75 sec, increases the attack power bonus of your Felguard's Demonic Frenzy by 1/2/3% and increases the damage done by your Felguard's Shadow Bite by 5/10/15%.
Destruction
* Empowered Imp now seems to gives your Imp's Firebolt a 6/12% chance to cause your next Soulfire spell to be instant cast within 8 sec. (Rank 2 Not Yet Implemented ... Could be a bug)
* Bane of Havoc now lasts 5 min. Up from 2 min.
* Nether Protection now reduces all damage by that spell school by 15%. (Down from 30%)
* Afterburn is now named Burning Embers, now lasts 7 sec (Down from 10). The damage done by your Burning Ember effect cannot exceed [ 1/2% of Spell Power + 167.45 ] total damage.
* Backlash now has a 13/26% chance to proc. (Up from 8/16%)
* Shadowburn base damage has been increased by 23%. Now only usable on enemies that have less than 20% health.
* Improved Soul Fire now has a flat chance to increases your spell haste by 7/15% after you Soul Fire a target above 80% health.
* Emberstorm now reduces the cast time of Soul Fire by 0.5/1 sec. (Down from 1/2 sec)
* Bane no longer reduces the casting time of Soul Fire.
* Improved Shadow Bolt is now Shadow and Flame - Increases the damage done by your Shadow Bolt and Incinerate spells by 4%, and your Shadow Bolt has a 33/66/100% chance to cause the Improved Shadow Bolt effect to the target.
The Improved Shadow Bolt effect causes the target to be vulnerable to spell damage, increasing spell critical strike chance against that target by 5% for 30 sec.
* Shadowflame now also fears the enemies.
Warrior (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Arms
* Thunder Clap now decreases attack speed for 30 sec. Up from 10 sec.
* Rend damage has been increased. Now deals [ 8.57% of Weapon Speed * AP + 60% of Weap. Min. Damage + 60% of Max. Weap. Damage ], up from [ 7.14% of MWS * AP + 50% of MWB + 50% of mwb ].
* Second Wind is now a Tier 6 talent. Up from Tier 5.
* Throwdown *New* - Knocks the target to the ground and stuns it for 5 sec. / 15 Rage, 5 yd range, Instant, 45 sec cooldown
Fury
* Heroic Leap now decreases attack speed for 30 sec. Up from 10 sec.
* Enraged Regeneration no longer consumes Enrage effects.
* Berserker Rage now requires you to be in Berserker Stance.
* Death Wish is now a Tier 3 talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Rampage is now a Tier 4 talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Heroic Fury now has a 30 sec cooldown. Down from 45 sec.
* Even the Odds is now named Meat Cleaver.
* Flurry is now a Tier 5 talent. Up from Tier 4.
* Impending Victory is now a Protection Talent.
* Piercing Howl is now a Tier 2 talent. Down from Tier 3.
* Enrage now procs from any damage.
* Unbridled Wrath now generates 5 rage points when you deal melee damage with a weapon. (Up from 1)
* Enrage - After taking any damage, you have a 30% chance to become Enraged, giving you a 6% damage bonus for 12 sec. /
* Raging Blow *New* - A mighty blow that deals 100% weapon damage from both melee weapons. Can only be used while Enraged. / 20 Rage, 5 yd range, Instant, 3 sec cooldown
Protection
* Shield Wall now reduces damage taken by 40%. Down from 60%.
* Shield Block now costs 10 Rage and has a 30 sec cooldown. (Old - No rage, 1 Min cooldown)
* Warbringer is now a Tier 6 Talent. Up from Tier 5.
* Vigilance now let you gain vengeance as if 20% of the damage was done to you.
* Sweep and Clear was changed to Thunderstruck - Your Thunder Clap leaves a crackling zone of energy on the ground for 5/10 sec, dealing 5.63 damage every sec to enemies that cross it.
* Hold the Line now increases the critical strike and critical block chance by 10% for 5 sec.
* Impending Victory *New* - Using Shield Slam on a target with 20% or less health has a 50/100% chance to allow the use of Victory Rush but that Victory Rush only heals for 5% of your health.
Blood
* Dark Simulacrum now costs 20 Runic Power and has a 1 min cooldown. (Old - No cost, 2 min cooldown)
Frost
* Icy Touch no longer generates very high threat when in Frost Presence.
Unholy
* Anti-Magic Shell - Damage absorbed no longer energizes the DK with additional runic power.
* Ebon Plaguebringer now also affects Chains of Ice
* Ghoul Frenzy now grants your pet 50% haste. (Up from 25%)
* Unholy Frenzy now increases melee and ranged haste by 20%. (Up from 10%)
Druid (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Balance
* Sleep (Tier 6) - Puts nearby enemies to sleep for up to 6 sec. Any damage caused will awaken them. / 80 Mana, 30 yd range, 1.5 sec cast
* Feral Swiftness is now a Tier 1 Talent. Down from Tier 2.
Hunter (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Survival
* Counterattack no longer costs mana.
Mage (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Arcane
* Mage Armor is now trained at level 68. Up from 64.
* Arcane Explosion is now trained at level 58. Up from 56.
* Mana Shield is now trained at level 46. Down from 52.
* Arcane Intellect is now trained at level 52. Up from 48.
* Conjure Mana Gem is now trained at level 48. Up from 46.
* Slow Fall is now trained at level 32. Up from 26.
Fire
* Frostfire Bolt is now trained at level 56. Down from 68.
* Molten Armor is now trained at level 64. Up from 54.
* Scorch is now trained at level 26. Down from 32.
Frost
* Frost Nova is now trained at level 8. Down from 9.
* Frostbolt is now trained at level 7. Down from 8.
* Frost Armor is now trained at level 54. Up from 7.
Paladin (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Holy
* Healing Hands now has a 1 min cooldown.
* Divine Plea is now trained at level 58. Down from 68.
* Light's Beacon now affects each heal you cast on the target instead of just Holy Light and Holy Shock. Now heals the beacon for 50%. (Down from 100%)
* Holy Wrath no longer scales from attack power and deals 2400 Holy damage divided among all targets within 10 yards.
* Holy Shock now grants a charge of Holy Power.
* Seal of Wisdom is gone.
* Seal of the Pure now seems to have a chance to restore the Paladin's mana.
* Holy Light is now trained at level 14. Up from 5.
* Divine Light - A large heal that heals a friendly target for 7761.99 to 8648.14. Good for periods of heavy damage. / 30% of base mana, 40 yd range, 2.5 sec cast
* Divine Favor now increases your chance to critically hit with your next Word of Glory, Holy Shock, Flash of Light, Holy Light or Divine Light by 100%. / Instant, 1 min cooldown
* Denounce - You have a 50/100% chance when any of your Holy spells get a critical effect to make your next Exorcism spell instant and cost no mana.
* Sacred Cleansing is now a Tier 4 Talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Infusion of Light is now a Tier 3 Talent. Down from Tier 4. It now only affects Holy Light. (No longer affects Divine Light)
* Blessed Life is now a Tier 6 Talent. Up from Tier 4.
* Enlightened Judgements is now a Tier 3 Talent. Down from Tier 4.
* Healing Light now affects Words of Glory.
* Tower of Radiance (NYI) *New* - Directly healing the target of your Beacon of Light has a % chance to generate Holy Power.
* Judgements of the Pure is now a Tier 1 talent. Down from Tier 2.
* Sanctified Light now affects Word of Glory and increases critical chance by 6/12%. (Up from 5/10%)
* Speed of Light *New* - Casting Holy Shock grants 5/10/30% spell haste for your next Flash of Light, Holy Light or Divine Light, and casting Healing Hands grants you 10/20/60% movement speed for 10 sec. Also lowers the cooldown on Healing Hands by 10/20/30 sec at all times.
* Clarity of Purpose *New* - Reduces the casting time of your Holy Light and Divine Light spells by 0.1/0.2/0.3 sec.
Protection
* Shield of Righteousness is now trained at level 44. Down from 74.
* Sacred Duty now only Reduces the cooldown of Divine Protection by 1/2/3 min.
* Improved Crusader Strike has been replaced with Grand Crusader - When your Shield of Righteousness and Hammer of Righteousness deal damage, they have a 20% chance of refreshing the cooldown on your next Crusader Strike and causing it to hit for 50/100% additional damage.
* Ardent Defender is now a Tier 4 talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Divine Guardian is now a single rank talent and has been revamped (but is probably NYI) - Party or raid members within 30 take 20% reduced damage for 6 sec.
* Holy Shield has been revamped - Increases your chance to block by 30% for 10 sec, and deals 97.8 Holy damage for every attack blocked. Consumes Holy Power to extend duration by 10 sec per stack of Holy Power. / 10% of base mana, Instant cast, 1 min cooldown
* Hallowed Ground is now a Tier 3 talent. Down from Tier 4.
* Vindication is now a Tier 5 talent. Up from Tier 4.
* Shield of the Templar is now a Tier 6 talent and has been revamped - Increases the critical strike chance of your Shield of Righteousness by 5/10%. In addition, your Shield of Righteousness critical strikes have a 50/100% chance of making your next Judgement a critical strike.
* Spiritual Attunement is gone.
* Divine Sacrifice is gone.
* Improved Exorcism is now Wrath of the Faithful - Increases the damage by 10/20% and critical strike chance by 10/20% of your Holy Wrath spell.
* Improved Devotion Aura is now Protector of the Innocent - Your Auras reduce your damage taken by 1/2/3% and the amount healed on any target by 2/4/6%.
* Sanctuary Reduces the chance you'll be critically hit by melee attacks by 2/4/6% instead of reducing damage taken from all sources.
* Sacred Oath is gone.
* Reckoning now gives you a 10/20/30% chance after blocking an attack for your next 4 weapon swings within 8 sec to generate an additional attack.
Retribution
* Divine Storm - An instant weapon attack that causes 20% of weapon damage to up to all enemies within 8 yards. The Divine Storm heals up to 3 party or raid members totaling 25% of the damage caused. Consumes all applications of Holy Power to increase damage dealt:
1 Holy Power: 22% Weapon Damage
2 Holy Power: 50% Weapon Damage
3 Holy Power: 90% Weapon Damage / 20% of base mana, Instant cast
* Crusader Strike now grants a charge of Holy Power.
* Inquisition *New* - Consumes Holy Power to increase your Holy Damage by 30%. Lasts 10 sec per charge of Holy Power consumed. / 20% of base mana, Instant cast
* Conviction is now a Tier 2 talent. Down from Tier 6.
* Sanctity of Battle is now a Tier 3 talent. Down from Tier 6. Now reduces cooldown of Exorcism by 3/6 secs. (Up from 2/4 secs)
* Swift Retribution is now a single rank talent increasing melee and ranged attack speed by 20%.
* Fanaticism (Tier 4) is now Improved Judgement (Tier 2) - Increases the damage of your Judgement spell by 15% and decreases its cooldown by 3 sec.
* Judgements of the Wise now grants you 40% of your base mana over 10 sec. (Old - immediately grants you 25% of your base mana)
* The Art of War is now a Tier 4 talent, down from Tier 3. It now has a 15/30% chance to proc from any melee attack (Old - 100% proc from Critical) and no longer reduce the casting time of Holy Light.
* Seals of Retribution is now a Tier 4 talent. Up from Tier 3.
* Eye for an Eye is now a Tier 1 talent. Up from Tier 2. It now gives you a 5/10% chance to cause 30% of the damage taken back to the attacker.
* Righteous Vengeance is now a Tier 6 talent. up from Tier 2.
* Improved Judgements is now Improved Crusader Strike - Increases the damage of your Crusader Strike by 15/30% and decreases its cooldown by 1.5/3 sec.
* Heart of the Crusader is now a Tier 3 (Up from Tier 1) single-rank (Down from 3 ranks) talent.
Priest (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Holy
* Healing Prayers is now Binding Prayers - Reduces the mana cost of your Binding Heal by 5/10%, and your Desperate Prayer also heals the lowest percentage health friendly party or raid target within 40 yards for 50/100% of the amount healed.
Rogue (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Assassination
* Venomous Wounds now also gives you a chance to regain 3/6 Energy.
* Focused Attacks is gone.
* Master Poisoner is now a single rank talent - Increases the spell damage taken by any target you have poisoned by 8%, your Envenom has a 100% chance not to consume Deadly Poison, and the duration of all Poison effects applied to you is reduced by 50%.
* Murderous Intent is now a Tier 5 Talent. Up from Tier 4.
* Deadly Momentum now increases the critical chance of your next attack by 40% at both ranks.
* Deadened Nerves now reduces damage taken by 3/7/10%. (Up from 2/4/6%)
Subtlety
* Shadowstep no increases the damage of your next Ambush or Garrote. (Old - Increased the damage of the next ability)
* Redirect *New* - Transfers any existing combo points to the current enemy target. / 40 yd range, Instant, 1 min cooldown
Shaman (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Elemental
* Elemental Devastation is now an Enhancement talent.
* Ancestral Knowledge is now an Elemental talent.
* Improved Lava Lash is now a 2 Ranks talent (Down from 3). Increases the damage of your Lava Lash ability by 15/30%, and by an additional 10/20% for each of your applications of Searing Flames on the target, consuming those applications in the process.
Enhancement
* Improved Shields is now a Tier 1 talent. Down from Tier 2.
* Ancestral Swiftness is gone.
* Frozen Power *New* - Increases the damage done by your Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Lava Lash and Shock spells by 5/10% on targets afflicted by your Frostbrand Attack effect, and your Frost Shock has a 50/100% chance to root the target in ice for 5 sec. when used on targets at or further than 15 yards from you.
Restoration
* Earth Shield is now trained at level 10. (Down from 50)
Warlock (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Affliction
* Bane of Doom - Curses the target with impending doom, causing 2213.37 Shadow damage every 30 sec. When Bane of Doom deals damage, it has a 25% chance to summon a Demon guardian. Only one Bane per Warlock can be active on any one target. / 15% of base mana, 30 yd range, Instant cast, 1 min cooldown
* Jinx *New* - Your Curse of the Elements also effects all nearby enemy targets within 20/40 yards of the cursed target, and your Curse of the Weakness also reduces the targets energy, rage, focus or runic power generation by 5/10 while active.
Demonology
* Ritual of Doom is now Summon Doomguard - Summons a Doomguard to fight beside you for 45 sec. The Doomguard will assist you by attacking the target which is afflicted by your Bane of Doom or Bane of Agony spell, and will sometimes dispel harmful magic effects from you. / 80% of base mana, Instant cast, 10 min cooldown, Reagents: Demonic Figurine
* Inferno is now Summon Infernal - Summons a meteor from the Twisting Nether, causing 28.87 Fire damage and stunning all enemy targets in the area for 2 sec. An Infernal rises from the crater, under the command of the caster for 1 min. The Infernal deals strong area of effect damage, and will be drawn to attack targets afflited by your Bane of Agony or Bane of Doom spells. / 80% of base mana, 30 yd range, 1.5 sec cast, 10 min cooldown, Reagents: Infernal Stone
* Create Firestone is gone.
* Create Spellstone is gone.
* Detect Invisibility is gone.
* Sense Demons is gone.
* Unending Breath is gone.
* Nemesis is now a Tier 5 Talent. Down from Tier 6. Now 2 ranks, down from 3.
* Molten Core is now a Tier 4 Talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Demonic Brutality is gone.
* Hand of Gul'dan cast time has been increased from 2.5 to 3 sec.
* Ancient Grimoire now increases the duration of your Infernal and Doomguard summons by 10/20 sec. (Up from 6/12 Sec)
* Improved Succubus is gone.
* Improved Healthstone is gone.
* Improved Imp is gone.
* Dark Arts *New* - Reduces the cast time of your Imp's Firebolt spell by 0.25/0.5/0.75 sec, increases the attack power bonus of your Felguard's Demonic Frenzy by 1/2/3% and increases the damage done by your Felguard's Shadow Bite by 5/10/15%.
Destruction
* Empowered Imp now seems to gives your Imp's Firebolt a 6/12% chance to cause your next Soulfire spell to be instant cast within 8 sec. (Rank 2 Not Yet Implemented ... Could be a bug)
* Bane of Havoc now lasts 5 min. Up from 2 min.
* Nether Protection now reduces all damage by that spell school by 15%. (Down from 30%)
* Afterburn is now named Burning Embers, now lasts 7 sec (Down from 10). The damage done by your Burning Ember effect cannot exceed [ 1/2% of Spell Power + 167.45 ] total damage.
* Backlash now has a 13/26% chance to proc. (Up from 8/16%)
* Shadowburn base damage has been increased by 23%. Now only usable on enemies that have less than 20% health.
* Improved Soul Fire now has a flat chance to increases your spell haste by 7/15% after you Soul Fire a target above 80% health.
* Emberstorm now reduces the cast time of Soul Fire by 0.5/1 sec. (Down from 1/2 sec)
* Bane no longer reduces the casting time of Soul Fire.
* Improved Shadow Bolt is now Shadow and Flame - Increases the damage done by your Shadow Bolt and Incinerate spells by 4%, and your Shadow Bolt has a 33/66/100% chance to cause the Improved Shadow Bolt effect to the target.
The Improved Shadow Bolt effect causes the target to be vulnerable to spell damage, increasing spell critical strike chance against that target by 5% for 30 sec.
* Shadowflame now also fears the enemies.
Warrior (Forums / 3.3.5 Talent Calculator / Cataclysm Talent Calculator / Beta Skills/Talents)
Arms
* Thunder Clap now decreases attack speed for 30 sec. Up from 10 sec.
* Rend damage has been increased. Now deals [ 8.57% of Weapon Speed * AP + 60% of Weap. Min. Damage + 60% of Max. Weap. Damage ], up from [ 7.14% of MWS * AP + 50% of MWB + 50% of mwb ].
* Second Wind is now a Tier 6 talent. Up from Tier 5.
* Throwdown *New* - Knocks the target to the ground and stuns it for 5 sec. / 15 Rage, 5 yd range, Instant, 45 sec cooldown
Fury
* Heroic Leap now decreases attack speed for 30 sec. Up from 10 sec.
* Enraged Regeneration no longer consumes Enrage effects.
* Berserker Rage now requires you to be in Berserker Stance.
* Death Wish is now a Tier 3 talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Rampage is now a Tier 4 talent. Down from Tier 5.
* Heroic Fury now has a 30 sec cooldown. Down from 45 sec.
* Even the Odds is now named Meat Cleaver.
* Flurry is now a Tier 5 talent. Up from Tier 4.
* Impending Victory is now a Protection Talent.
* Piercing Howl is now a Tier 2 talent. Down from Tier 3.
* Enrage now procs from any damage.
* Unbridled Wrath now generates 5 rage points when you deal melee damage with a weapon. (Up from 1)
* Enrage - After taking any damage, you have a 30% chance to become Enraged, giving you a 6% damage bonus for 12 sec. /
* Raging Blow *New* - A mighty blow that deals 100% weapon damage from both melee weapons. Can only be used while Enraged. / 20 Rage, 5 yd range, Instant, 3 sec cooldown
Protection
* Shield Wall now reduces damage taken by 40%. Down from 60%.
* Shield Block now costs 10 Rage and has a 30 sec cooldown. (Old - No rage, 1 Min cooldown)
* Warbringer is now a Tier 6 Talent. Up from Tier 5.
* Vigilance now let you gain vengeance as if 20% of the damage was done to you.
* Sweep and Clear was changed to Thunderstruck - Your Thunder Clap leaves a crackling zone of energy on the ground for 5/10 sec, dealing 5.63 damage every sec to enemies that cross it.
* Hold the Line now increases the critical strike and critical block chance by 10% for 5 sec.
* Impending Victory *New* - Using Shield Slam on a target with 20% or less health has a 50/100% chance to allow the use of Victory Rush but that Victory Rush only heals for 5% of your health.
Starting to really worry now.
Thats like two straight beta builds and the hunter class is in ruin over there. Our tree specific coefficients for our shots arent working right, Imp tracking is still the odd man out as a 5 point tier one talent that was supposed to go away, our focus is stuck at 3 per second when they told us months ago its intended to be 6 per second, pet frenzy doesnt work so you cant test the self haste BM talent, fervor doesnt give the pet any focus like it should, pets are forced to never use any skills otherwise they never will have focus for growl etc.
The class is a wreck. At least if they could get the focus regen right we could test something. If right now rogues were regenning 10 energy a tick instead of 20 there would be outrage. This is starting to worry the shit out of me. They are really dragging their asses.
Thats like two straight beta builds and the hunter class is in ruin over there. Our tree specific coefficients for our shots arent working right, Imp tracking is still the odd man out as a 5 point tier one talent that was supposed to go away, our focus is stuck at 3 per second when they told us months ago its intended to be 6 per second, pet frenzy doesnt work so you cant test the self haste BM talent, fervor doesnt give the pet any focus like it should, pets are forced to never use any skills otherwise they never will have focus for growl etc.
The class is a wreck. At least if they could get the focus regen right we could test something. If right now rogues were regenning 10 energy a tick instead of 20 there would be outrage. This is starting to worry the shit out of me. They are really dragging their asses.
They've already at least partially fixed rogue talents, so sorry hunters, but i you aren't fixed by now you are really fucked:lol
Nah, I'm just bitter how few changes rogues usually get between patches compared to other classes.
Hunters were introduced as the last class in the vanilla beta and iirc they were finished last in wotlk beta. I wouldn't worry if I were you
Hunters were introduced as the last class in the vanilla beta and iirc they were finished last in wotlk beta. I wouldn't worry if I were you
man when did gearscore become the most important thing in this game? just resubbed a few days ago and the trade chat is full of claims that only 5k gs is good enough to do anything. on the other hand, find a dungeon is absolutely fantastic! my only gripe is that i can't also do bg while waiting to be put in a group. also, bg marks don't exist anymore? are they useless now, i have like 100 ab, av and eots marks
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i think the hunter class designers are working on the shaman class or something first. hunters sound like they're going to suck or be completely overpowered when cat comes out.
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