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[Xiaoki]

The answer to your mastery question is that you don't actually acquire any masteries benefits until you acquire gear that has mastery rating on it, plus you have to be level 75 to train masteries in the first place. That might be a bug though.

Its not a bug.
The only gear with Mastery rating is Cataclysm gear(any quality).

When they set the training level at 75 you could quest in Cataclysm zones at level 78. The minimum Cataclysm questing level has since been raised to level 80. If that is for beta testing purposes or not is yet to revealed.

Exorcism early on is completely useless except as a pull, but once you get the Art of War talent it becomes sweet, sweet candy...

Not really. Exorcism is classified as a spell which means:
higher spell hit(17% instead of 8%)
lower crit damage bonus(150% instead of 200%)
does not proc seals(only melee attacks proc seals)

And this isnt taking into account the nerfs its getting in Cataclysm.

 

[Tacitus_]

Hah, maybe there will be a /vomit emote. That's cool with the beggar children looting corpses and the whole "Alliance is bankrupt" story element... makes sense.

Vomit uses the /yell emote, you can try it out during halloween or if you do the disgusting quest for the draenei in lower shattrath.

Hunh, apparently you can change your B.Net from eu to us by simply logging on eu and then typing us.battle.net into your address bar.
Wonky.

 

[notworksafe]

You vomit if you get too drunk now as well.

 

[Rapstah]

It's worst with Exodar. :lol At least you have Darnassus if you want to go to Felwood, Winterspring or Ashenvale. What's the point with Exodar once you are over lvl 20 again?

Why are there no flight paths between the Draenei areas and Kalimdor when there are flight paths between the Blood Elf areas and Eastern Kingdoms? If there were, maybe The Exodar'd have a point.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Its not a bug.
The only gear with Mastery rating is Cataclysm gear(any quality).

When they set the training level at 75 you could quest in Cataclysm zones at level 78. The minimum Cataclysm questing level has since been raised to level 80. If that is for beta testing purposes or not is yet to revealed.

No, not the mastery training, the fact that you gain no bonuses from say, Flashburn (fire mage mastery) at all until you gain rating. It was never explained to work like that, in fact it was explained differently, that you'd get the benefit of Flashburn, but not very much of it until you scaled it with rating. Right now in beta, it simply does nothing, even if you train Mastery.

 

[Bisnic]

Why are there no flight paths between the Draenei areas and Kalimdor when there are flight paths between the Blood Elf areas and Eastern Kingdoms? If there were, maybe The Exodar'd have a point.

Blizzard just have better things to do than linking Auberdine & Exodar flight points. Although i'm sure this kind of stuff would only take a few minutes to do. Can't be that hard and would save us waiting for a stupid boat.

 

[firex]

Blizzard just have better things to do than linking Auberdine & Exodar flight points. Although i'm sure this kind of stuff would only take a few minutes to do. Can't be that hard and would save us waiting for a stupid boat.

It's retroactive punishment for playing a night elf/draenei!

Although really it's probably just like you said, they don't even want to bother.

 

[Xabora]

I think you'll find that any popular MMO will experience hacks such as what you experienced. It's not Blizzard's fault per se, however the authenticator is a good effort to reduce hacking and I highly recommend that you purchase one (regardless of which game you choose to play).

The reason is a hacked MMO account can be worth more and less risky than a stolen credit card. Therefore there's a high incentive to target them.

And it was mentioned above, but if there's a WoW account hacked, it's going to be happening on the user's side. Spyware or the Adobe 0-day issue got a lot of people, so you may want to do a Spyware and virus check on your PC in addition to updating Acrobat and Flash player.

Brings up another point, if you changed your password before you did the scan. Your open to another attack.

Make sure you do it from a clean PC, or a safe device.

 

[Swag]

I think they might get rid of the class-related quests that give you spells. I mean, I can actually see how a Warrior might make it pretty far without actually finishing the Defensive stance quest and that's kinda required to tank.:lol

I didn't know that shit came from a quest, queued up as a tank and scratched my head as I looked for Defensive Stance in my spell book.

 

[Xiaoki]

Brings up another point, if you changed your password before you did the scan. Your open to another attack.

Make sure you do it from a clean PC, or a safe device.

When I got hacked about a month ago, a Blizzard rep advised me to have the WoW log in running while I scanned.
He said that when you get a key logger it will remain dormant until WoW starts up.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

It's worst with Exodar. :lol At least you have Darnassus if you want to go to Felwood, Winterspring or Ashenvale. What's the point with Exodar once you are over lvl 20 again?

Man I regret so much rolling male Draenei that I can not comprehend ot think about it.And worst of all I spent 15 bucks race changing to one...

thats like paying for surgery to become handicapped on PURPOSE!


I stupid idiot. I wanted some untraditional characters and I already had a female Dwarf I loved. I couldn't find anything else untraditional than Male Draenei. Little did I know that there was actually a good reason for them not being wanted/played much. What a sad excuse of a race.

And I am not talking about the lore. My character actually looks like it wants to die, with those tentacles and Son-Gohan hair sticking out. It walks like it shat itself in the mail armor, and broke it's ankles but trying to keep a straight face to go to a dinner party. ugh...

Female draenei is really nice thou, but so over used!

 

[Tamanon]

It's worst with Exodar. :lol At least you have Darnassus if you want to go to Felwood, Winterspring or Ashenvale. What's the point with Exodar once you are over lvl 20 again?

I used Exodar in Burning Crusade only because it was the only portal I could take to an AH without a loading screen since it was on the same server as Outland was.

 

[The Lamonster]

When I got hacked about a month ago, a Blizzard rep advised me to have the WoW log in running while I scanned.
He said that when you get a key logger it will remain dormant until WoW starts up.

Really good to know, thanks!!

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

When I got hacked about a month ago, a Blizzard rep advised me to have the WoW log in running while I scanned.
He said that when you get a key logger it will remain dormant until WoW starts up.

so i go to the log-in screen but type nothing in - alt tab out, and start scanning, and that should make it pop up?


genius. absolutely genius!

 

[Amir0x]

I think you'll find that any popular MMO will experience hacks such as what you experienced. It's not Blizzard's fault per se, however the authenticator is a good effort to reduce hacking and I highly recommend that you purchase one (regardless of which game you choose to play).

The reason is a hacked MMO account can be worth more and less risky than a stolen credit card. Therefore there's a high incentive to target them.

And it was mentioned above, but if there's a WoW account hacked, it's going to be happening on the user's side. Spyware or the Adobe 0-day issue got a lot of people, so you may want to do a Spyware and virus check on your PC in addition to updating Acrobat and Flash player.

I have, literally, five different spyware programs running everyday and a very good firewall. And my Acrobat and Flash player are maximum updated. There is nothing on my computer that is compromised.

So, yes, it is not my fault. I take extensive security measures, short of buying an authenticator. Because I should not have to spend any more money just to play a fucking game like this. I've played various MMORPGs before and have never once encountered a problem. I always get those fake messages in game where someone is trying to get my account info (in LOTRO or WOW), but I never respond.

Anyway, this game is too insecure, and so I'll be moving on.

 

[Rapstah]

I have, literally, five different spyware programs running everyday and a very good firewall. And my Acrobat and Flash player are maximum updated. There is nothing on my computer that is compromised.

So, yes, it is not my fault. I take extensive security measures, short of buying an authenticator. Because I should not have to spend any more money just to play a fucking game like this. I've played various MMORPGs before and have never once encountered a problem. I always get those fake messages in game where someone is trying to get my account info (in LOTRO or WOW), but I never respond.

Anyway, this game is too insecure, and so I'll be moving on.

Here's the deal, though: your computer is compromised because you were hacked. I'm not sure if you're implying Blizzard is faking hacks to sell authenticators or if you're saying that Blizzard has somehow leaked your information to the hackers. Neither has happened.

It's like you're the CSI guy standing in a prison cell someone has done a daring prison escape from. The door and the window are both open, but you're on the sixth floor. Clearly the prisoner escaped through flying rather than taking the door, because you had six competent guards outside.

 

[notworksafe]

It's like you're the CSI guy standing in a prison cell someone has done a daring prison escape from. The door and the window are both open, but you're on the sixth floor. Clearly the prisoner escaped through flying rather than taking the door, because you had six competent guards outside.

It looks like this prisoner...

Spoiler

flew the coop

Seriously though, something is on your computer. It's doubtful that Blizzard got hacked, so what else could it be? Also I'm sure you have played plenty of MMOs before...but not as many people want to buy Gil/WAR Gold/AoC Gold/Aion Whatever/etc as WoW Gold. It's like saying Macs are safe from virii. Of course they aren't, but it's just that no one cares enough about them.

 

[FLEABttn]

Yeah, no, not Blizzard's fault. You have a hole in your security somewhere.

 

[Tamanon]

I have, literally, five different spyware programs running everyday and a very good firewall. And my Acrobat and Flash player are maximum updated. There is nothing on my computer that is compromised.

So, yes, it is not my fault. I take extensive security measures, short of buying an authenticator. Because I should not have to spend any more money just to play a fucking game like this. I've played various MMORPGs before and have never once encountered a problem. I always get those fake messages in game where someone is trying to get my account info (in LOTRO or WOW), but I never respond.

Anyway, this game is too insecure, and so I'll be moving on.

So get one of the free authenticators on a phone? All it takes for something not to be noticed by a spyware/virus scanner is for it not to be active until a program is opened, because you generally don't run virus scans while playing games.

 

[Narag]

It looks like this prisoner...

Spoiler

flew the coop

\​

 

[notworksafe]

Yeah, try running a scan while WoW is running. Also, did you maybe play on someone else's computer? That includes SC2 beta and logging into Bnet website, because they use the same info.

 

[Macattk15]

I've played this game for 6 years. Never had an account stolen.

It is not Blizzard's fault you lost your account.

 

[Amir0x]

Here's the deal, though: your computer is compromised because you were hacked. I'm not sure if you're implying Blizzard is faking hacks to sell authenticators or if you're saying that Blizzard has somehow leaked your information to the hackers. Neither has happened.

It's like you're the CSI guy standing in a prison cell someone has done a daring prison escape from. The door and the window are both open, but you're on the sixth floor. Clearly the prisoner escaped through flying rather than taking the door, because you had six competent guards outside.

I hadn't even played WoW for over two weeks. Hadn't logged in or anything. The day I return was, according to the guy on the phone, the same day the theft happened. In other words, by your calculations, I was somehow "hacked" a few hours before I returned to WoW through my eighty layers of security even though I hadn't used WoW to log in for over two weeks. Was this guy sitting on my information for over two weeks? Seems kinda implausible.

I'm not implying Blizzard is faking hacks. I'm implying there's a hole in Blizzard's security that is allowing certain individuals to easily gain access to passwords and log in information. I did everything humanly possible to make sure I was safe, short of buying an authenticator. Literally it's not possible to have a more secure PC than I have.

I know the ins and outs on my computer. My PC is brand new. There's not a whole lot to it. I have so many different antivirus and malware scanners it's absurd. My firewall blocks all. I have no keygens on my PC. I have run checks with WoW on, and with WoW off.

There is no plausible way for my PC to be any more secure than it is. In fact, I'd hazard to say my PC is more secure than 99% of all people who play WoW (who don't also have an authenticator).

It is not my fault my shit was stolen. I cannot have taken any more steps to be safe. If you guys want to keep bending over backwards to place to blame on me, be my guest, but you're just looking silly. One shouldn't require as much security as I have in place in the first place in order to be secure, even though I do. This is a problem with the MMORPG provider.

So, like I said, moving to FFXIV. Will be a better game anyway, WOW is really not aged well.

 

[notworksafe]

So, like I said, moving to FFXIV. Will be a better game anyway

In a few years maybe. If the Beta is any judge it's just FFXI with a coat of paint and even more obnoxious fanboys. Not to mention that Square strongly recommends Authenticators to avoid hacks by RMT people as well.

EDIT: That's not fair I suppose. The new touted battle system supposedly requires you to move during some fights, though I haven't come across any in my Beta time.

 

[Narag]

Yeah, if

Spoiler

when

RMT becomes big again, compromised accounts will be a major concern in FFXIV as well.

 

[Amir0x]

In a few years maybe. If the Beta is any judge it's just FFXI with a coat of paint and even more obnoxious fanboys. Not to mention that Square strongly recommends Authenticators to avoid hacks by RMT people as well.

EDIT: That's not fair I suppose. The new touted battle system supposedly requires you to move during some fights, though I haven't come across any in my Beta time.

Well, if authenticators are standard requirement, maybe I'll skip MMORPGs altogether then. It's silly to spend all these monthly fees, and for the game itself, and now for an authenticator.

According to this thread, FFXIV collector's edition comes with an authenticator though. That might be the only way around my frustration at this aspect, really. In fact, maybe all MMORPG developers should simply include authenticators with their product in order to avoid this stuff.

Anyway, I like the ideas behind FFXIV, but I never got into FFXI deeply. From what I've seen, FFXIV definitely has some noteworthy improvements.

 

[Entropia]

Heroic LK is not fun -_-

 

[notworksafe]

Well, if authenticators are standard requirement, maybe I'll skip MMORPGs altogether then. It's silly to spend all these monthly fees, and for the game itself, and now for an authenticator.

According to this thread, FFXIV collector's edition comes with an authenticator though. That might be the only way around my frustration at this aspect, really. In fact, maybe all MMORPG developers should simply include authenticators with their product in order to avoid this stuff.

Anyway, I like the ideas behind FFXIV, but I never got into FFXI deeply. From what I've seen, FFXIV definitely has some noteworthy improvements.

Well I bet Blizzard does that with Cataclysm box copies. They give those things away like candy at every event and every opportunity to do so. I like mine being on my phone so that I can use it to check auctions or for a beta invite from a friends computer without having to worry about some creepy bug getting into my system. Plus, it was free!

There are some improvements, I won't lie. Removing racial stat bonuses is nice, the graphics are gorgeous and the battle system is much better and quicker (i.e closer to WoW). But the lack of content in the Beta and large amount of grinding has me worried. I've spent my time in there playing since the first Alpha round and it's convinced me to preorder the game for the potential it has, so I guess we'll see how the launch goes.

If you'd like to check it out before preordering, send me a PM. I had multiple S-E accounts get into the Beta so I got some to spare. The Beta servers are up 2-3 times a week for 20 hrs at a time now, so there's plenty of time to give it a try before buying.

 

[Amir0x]

That's a good idea. Think I'll take you up on that.

BTW, I don't follow too religiously, but how bad is the "grinding"? I was under the impression FFXIV did away with experience in favor of skill grinding, but is that really bad?

P.S. Maybe we should move this to the FFXIV thread :lol

 

[J-Rzez]

I'm implying there's a hole in Blizzard's security that is allowing certain individuals to easily gain access to passwords and log in information. I did everything humanly possible to make sure I was safe, short of buying an authenticator. Literally it's not possible to have a more secure PC than I have.

I have to agree. Blizzard certainly does not do enough to prevent this shit from happening. I wouldn't doubt that hackers get the info from some go between in the system log in, or whatever. It's seriously absurd the number of people who get hacked in this game. Not all of these people can be stupid enough to fall for piss-poor attempts at English emails about free mounts.

And the thing is, FFS, look at these Phishing sites that are WELL KNOWN, yet they're still up on the net. Like Blizzard couldn't shut them down for faking to be them?

Lazy fucking company always looking to take the quick way out. Great game, half-fast company.

 

[Bisnic]

I kinda agree, how long has this "IGS.com" been online? I remember seeing dead human corpses in Stormwind spelling that website 2 years ago, and now i see them back again as floating sleeping orc warlocks in Orgrimmar.

Note : Don't try to go there.

 

[FLEABttn]

Like Blizzard couldn't shut them down for faking to be them?

Not necessarily.

If it's foreign hosted in a place where Blizz can't touch them, what can Blizz do? In a lot of cases, literally nothing.


Also, it would be wise to not to have your WoW account be the same as your account for anything else. For example, if your WoW account has the same password as your e-mail, and you've ever checked your e-mail from any other device not your computer, you've put your account at risk. Work computer, friend's computer, library computer, etc.

Though $6.50 really isn't a lot. Like if that's bank breaking, MMO's aren't for you. And it's not $6.50 that only works for WoW, it's $6.50 that works for every Blizzard game, WoW forward. So, don't get SC2 then if an authenticator is asking too much. I'm sure you've dropped far more on worse.

 

[notworksafe]

That's a good idea. Think I'll take you up on that.

BTW, I don't follow too religiously, but how bad is the "grinding"? I was under the impression FFXIV did away with experience in favor of skill grinding, but is that really bad?

P.S. Maybe we should move this to the FFXIV thread :lol

Well you gain skill levels by using skills in combat, so it's not too different. I just am mentioning grinding because there is only a few quests implemented right now, so there really isn't much else to do other than grind on mobs or grind out non-combat professions.

Okay...now we're straying out of WoW territory by a lot, but the FFXIV thread people are a little too biased towards it to be level with you (and that's to be expected).

I have to agree. Blizzard certainly does not do enough to prevent this shit from happening. I wouldn't doubt that hackers get the info from some go between in the system log in, or whatever. It's seriously absurd the number of people who get hacked in this game. Not all of these people can be stupid enough to fall for piss-poor attempts at English emails about free mounts.

You'd be shocked how many people do this. I work for a college IT department and we get many calls everyday about how "the university" sent them a mail about resetting their password and now they can't get in. The number of hacks isn't that surprising to me. After all, 11 million players are on WoW. Even if only 5% get hacked, that's 550,000 people. That's more than the entire active population of FFXI!

Also, it would be wise to not to have your WoW account be the same as your account for anything else. For example, if your WoW account has the same password as your e-mail, and you've ever checked your e-mail from any other device not your computer, you've put your account at risk. Work computer, friend's computer, library computer, etc.

Though $6.50 really isn't a lot. Like if that's bank breaking, MMO's aren't for you. And it's not $6.50 that only works for WoW, it's $6.50 that works for every Blizzard game, WoW forward. So, don't get SC2 then if an authenticator is asking too much. I'm sure you've dropped far more on worse.

Yeah my Bnet email and password I don't use for anything else. Same as my bank. It's just as valuable to some people. Also mobile authenticators are out there for many phones (even non-smartphones!) and are usually $0-$1.50 so that's much cheaper than the normal Authenticator.

 

[speedpop]

Bisnic - I flew over Darnassus and couldnt see any changes.. very dissapointing. there is a problem with it... its supposed to be the broken world tree, but it doesnt feel like a tree...

Darnassus always had a problem because it was big and grand, but empty. a city? no.. more like a sanctuary. not a great source of ancient power. it also didnt feel like a place of natures blessing. I loved the Korean shaped buildings and roofs.. but really... Darnassus leaves so much to be desired.

Its no wonder people didn't like to "Hang out" there.

Teldrassil is a source of ancient power simply because out where it is situated now was nothing but ocean. However it never reached the same status that Nordrassil reached because it was not blessed by Ysera.

Nobody "hangs" out in Darnassus because it's in the middle of nowhere.

They do on RP servers

 

[shintoki]

I have to agree. Blizzard certainly does not do enough to prevent this shit from happening. I wouldn't doubt that hackers get the info from some go between in the system log in, or whatever. It's seriously absurd the number of people who get hacked in this game. Not all of these people can be stupid enough to fall for piss-poor attempts at English emails about free mounts.

And the thing is, FFS, look at these Phishing sites that are WELL KNOWN, yet they're still up on the net. Like Blizzard couldn't shut them down for faking to be them?

Lazy fucking company always looking to take the quick way out. Great game, half-fast company.

Those same companies get people to buy Authenticators. :lol Currently, all that happens is the paying subscriber loses a few days of play, and then push to buying one of their tools. Unless people actually vote with their dollar and just quit till it is solved, they aren't going to change.

 

[Weenerz]

I don't know how hard you've tried personally, but I'm guessing trying to close down a website not based in America is probably very difficult. Look at Piratebay, it's still alive.

Also, I am pretty sure Blizzard has said they don't make any money on the authenticators themselves, the only thing they get out of them is less pressure on hiring more GMs.

 

[BigJonsson]

I hadn't even played WoW for over two weeks. Hadn't logged in or anything. The day I return was, according to the guy on the phone, the same day the theft happened. In other words, by your calculations, I was somehow "hacked" a few hours before I returned to WoW through my eighty layers of security even though I hadn't used WoW to log in for over two weeks. Was this guy sitting on my information for over two weeks? Seems kinda implausible.

I'm not implying Blizzard is faking hacks. I'm implying there's a hole in Blizzard's security that is allowing certain individuals to easily gain access to passwords and log in information. I did everything humanly possible to make sure I was safe, short of buying an authenticator. Literally it's not possible to have a more secure PC than I have.

I know the ins and outs on my computer. My PC is brand new. There's not a whole lot to it. I have so many different antivirus and malware scanners it's absurd. My firewall blocks all. I have no keygens on my PC. I have run checks with WoW on, and with WoW off.

There is no plausible way for my PC to be any more secure than it is. In fact, I'd hazard to say my PC is more secure than 99% of all people who play WoW (who don't also have an authenticator).

It is not my fault my shit was stolen. I cannot have taken any more steps to be safe. If you guys want to keep bending over backwards to place to blame on me, be my guest, but you're just looking silly. One shouldn't require as much security as I have in place in the first place in order to be secure, even though I do. This is a problem with the MMORPG provider.

So, like I said, moving to FFXIV. Will be a better game anyway, WOW is really not aged well.

My account was compromised after 11 months of not playing, but I got it back quickly and the loser who bought my account and got banned for buying gold was nice enough to use his credit card to buy a month of gametime which I am now using.........they even put an authenticator on it which Blizzard removed for me and I use the iPod authenticator now.....I want to know how much money my Rogue was worth =/

 

[Hero]

If you get hacked it's pretty much your own fault. Blizzard puts a great deal of time, effort and money into trying to prevent account hacking and theft. The authenticator program is free for almost any smart phone and the iPod touch, if you don't have one of those then shell out the money to get one. It's not like Blizzard is even profiting off of those, the price is to cover the shipping of the unit. I guarantee that the next Blizzard MMO launches with an authenticator in every box. It doesn't reduce your chance of getting hacked to 0% but it's the best you can get aside from being careless.

 

[PatzCU]

Why would Blizzard be against increasing their security when you can get Authenticators for free on your phone? Does everyone realize that it probably costs Blizzard tens of thousands of dollars per month to reinstate these hacked accounts? The Authenticator is chump change for a game that provides as much content as WoW does for $15 a month. FFXIV isn't going to be any better either. If you plan on playing it, you should assume an authenticator will be a good idea.

 

[Liferebooted]

No down time tomorrow for once? I'm not getting a notice when I open wow.

 

[Tacitus_]

Yeah, the only people I know who were hacked either used 'non-authorized tools' or were account sharing. You did something stupid somewhere in there.

 

[PatzCU]

No down time tomorrow for once? I'm not getting a notice when I open wow.

I can only imagine Blizzard's server room looks like a bomb went off tonight with sirens blaring and lights flashing with the release of Starcraft 2 tonight. They probably completely forgot they need to bring WoW down for routine maintenance :lol

 

[Liferebooted]

I can only imagine Blizzard's server room looks like a bomb went off tonight with sirens blaring and lights flashing with the release of Starcraft 2 tonight. They probably completely forgot they need to bring WoW down for routine maintenance :lol

Ah shit, forgot about that game tomorrow.

 

[Frostburn]

Wow is targeted by hackers the most because its the most popular MMO and makes them a lot of money, just like most viruses are for Windows based PCs. Money and user base makes it a popular target.

Guys, remember to NEVER use your WoW password for anything else and vice-versa. Also, don't use real words if at all possible and make sure you use numbers, letters, upper and lowercase and symbols if you can. Of course you can still get hacked but using the same password for multiple things and using simple passwords or keyboard patterns are just as bad as running Windows XP with no Service packs and no AV protection. Also, having multiple AV stand alone scanners is fine. Having multiple AV programs running on your PC at the same time will cause a meltdown as they attack each other and let things slip past.

Having an up to date AV program does not make you invincible to hacks, browser and software exploits in Java, Flash and Reader come out on a daily basis and take a decent amount of time to get patched.

I fix computers for a living and I've witnessed a computer getting a virus from an ad on MSN.com in a sandbox environment with all the latest patches for all software installed on the system.

Your system isn't as safe as you think it is. Sometimes its your fault, sometimes you just get unlucky. Blizzard charges a one time fee of $6.50 for the Authenticator or you can download an app for your iPod Touch/iPhone or Android phone.

https://us.battle.net/account/support/mobile-auth-download.html

More on topic: The new WoW expansion looks neat, I've been away from the game for about one and a half years now. I don't think I want to go back but its cool to see all the changes.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

My account was compromised after 11 months of not playing, but I got it back quickly and the loser who bought my account and got banned for buying gold was nice enough to use his credit card to buy a month of gametime which I am now using.........they even put an authenticator on it which Blizzard removed for me and I use the iPod authenticator now.....I want to know how much money my Rogue was worth =/

Don't be surprised in 3 months when you have to pay that $15 for what the hacker did. If I were you I would wait out the month until it's over with. If you play over 50% of the game time then you have to pay for it yourself.

 

[firex]

I'm at 34 with my priest now, about 8 levels/day thanks to dungeon finder and heirlooms. But trying to do zones I skipped in the past is tough... I'm going to have to do hinterlands when I get to the level for it, but I'm actually avoiding STV for my level range and trying to split between desolace and arathi, since I think I only once completed everything in arathi and I've never done everything in desolace.

 

[Nymerio]

I'm twinking a rogue to 80 while a friend levels his warrior. He's playing prot so we get instant invites, but doing dungeons on a rogue pre leve 80 is damn frustrating. Everyone is bombing down everything and I'm standing there hitting them with my little knives :/. I started out as combat rogue and respecced to assassination afterwards. While combat does have some aoe abilities like blad flurry and killing spree, assassination is just more fun to play. That and I alway top the dps meters on single target fights

 

[Chris R]

Sword rogue still viable? I'd think that would be something to look into if you are just doing instances.

 

[markot]

Yeah, rogues getting an aoe at 80 is pretty crazy considering every instance leveling up is an aoe fest >.<

Blade Fury + killing spree is good dps, but you only get to do it like every 2 or so mins....

 

[Alex]

That's a lot of fuss over a free to six dollar maximum little piece of kit that is going to be required for any future MMO with any decently sized userbase.

As for FFXIV, I'm not maintaining that same level of hope considering it's iffy beta. I've been looking forward to that for years so I'd rather not see it flubbed, but it needs a strong delay more than anything else in recent memory. September is just foolish considering the state of what they've shown and the rate of live development. First impressions are a much bigger deal than they used to be, in MMOs.

Also no, it's not going to be some beacon of modern design, it's going to be archaic and cult, but in a fun, endearing way with some brilliant design concessions buried under some silly Japanese design logic and an unpolished shell. It is going to be FFXI-2. But I don't care, I just have a soft spot for that teams world building and group based combat, so I somewhat prefer that.

I think WoW aged pretty well though, mostly because they update it so absurdly much. Still, at the same time I can only handle so much of a general game no matter how much it's updated and maintained.

Of course, that's taking in mind modern WoW and the end game and Cataclysm and not blubbering about old world content a few months before it's purged and completely rebuilt with nothing but brand new game systems. Derp.

No down time tomorrow for once? I'm not getting a notice when I open wow.

...Weren't you the one in here spamming websites to get people to quit MMOs because you ruined your life or something?