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DeathNote said:
so, badges of justice. i've decided to farm them and save them for lvl 80. the chances of them introducing lvl 80 gear to be bought with them are high right?
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I would not recommend doing this.

Blizzard will very likely keep the Badge of Justice system but have a new badge be required.

Players be able to farm the hell out of badges now and keep them until level 80 and buy up whatever uber gear there is in the expansion.
Also, 10 well geared level 80 people could annihilate Karazhan and Gruul in just a couple hours for an easy 27 badges.
Not to mention steam roll through Heroic Mech in like 20 minutes every single day.
 
Xiaoki said:
I would not recommend doing this.

Blizzard will very likely keep the Badge of Justice system but have a new badge be required.

Players be able to farm the hell out of badges now and keep them until level 80 and buy up whatever uber gear there is in the expansion.
Also, 10 well geared level 80 people could annihilate Karazhan and Gruul in just a couple hours for an easy 27 badges.
Not to mention steam roll through Heroic Mech in like 20 minutes every single day.
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True, my guild's record in Karazhan already for a full clear is 2 hours 7 minutes. I can't imagine it at 80.:lol
 
speedpop said:
Tell him to man the fuck up and count his blessings he doesn't have 400-500ms ping every damn time.
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I get 200ms by tunelling the wow port through a proxy so it gets higher traffic priority. Otherwise it's 400-500ms on a good day.
 
I suppose there's not a nicer way to acrue mass BoJ's than to trudge through Kara every week eh? I just did the math and realized that I need at least another 360 Badges before I have everything I want from the new Vendor. That's 4 Months of Raiding Kara every week....

By that time the new Xpac will be out and it wont matter
olololz
 
Kletian said:
I suppose there's not a nicer way to acrue mass BoJ's than to trudge through Kara every week eh? I just did the math and realized that I need at least another 360 Badges before I have everything I want from the new Vendor. That's 4 Months of Raiding Kara every week....

By that time the new Xpac will be out and it wont matter
olololz
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Just raiding, heroics, and the dailies sometimes.
 
Thanks to BoE Primal Nethers, BoE Nether Vortexes, lots of cash from daily quests, and a little free time because I'm not raiding anymore, I was able to make a Lionheart Executioner for my warrior. Now I just need to find someone who can enchant the sucker - although I'm having a blast tearing up alliance without it.
 
explodet said:
Thanks to BoE Primal Nethers, BoE Nether Vortexes, lots of cash from daily quests, and a little free time because I'm not raiding anymore, I was able to make a Lionheart Executioner for my warrior. Now I just need to find someone who can enchant the sucker - although I'm having a blast tearing up alliance without it.
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i see you failed at making a real pvp weapon, you know skillherald
 
Eh, my main is still my mage, this char is just for shiggles. I mainly went swordsmithing because the Blazefury/Blazeguard is a little better for tanking - but nobody's been asking me to tank lately (still a little undergeared for Magister's Terrace) so I've been hitting stuff instead.

Could have been worse, I could have gone axesmithing.
 
Isn't it completely trivial to change your Blacksmithing specialization now anyway? I haven't tried it, but couldn't you just switch back and forth between axes/swords depending on whether your felt like tanking or PVPing?
 
border said:
Isn't it completely trivial to change your Blacksmithing specialization now anyway? I haven't tried it, but couldn't you just switch back and forth between axes/swords depending on whether your felt like tanking or PVPing?
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ya 50g
 
Looks like the first gate in Sunwell Plateau is open; any bets on who the first guild to take the twins will be? (Sorry EU guilds)
 
DarkAngelYuna said:
My realm has been up all day just fine. Demon Soul USA
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Yeah I just checked the ingame support thing and it told me to go manually edit my config.wtf file in order to see my own realm. It worked, but damn, I was waiting hours thinking that the servers were just borked.
 
Weenerz said:
Leveling fishing the last few days, holy hell what a chore. I'm at 290 atm, and I've easily spent 10 hours doing this shit.
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yea I got from 1 - 150 today....although now it gets retarded and takes 10fish catches to level once :(
 
BigJonsson said:
wtf @ how easy it is to level a hunter

I heard it was easy but holy shit @ being able to take on 4 mobs at once with my pet
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Yeah, once you get freeze trap, it's absolutely silly and doesn't really slow down ever.
 
Tamanon said:
Yeah, once you get freeze trap, it's absolutely silly and doesn't really slow down ever.
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I thought my first toon was easy to level and it was a rogue

Now that I know the game alot better and have a fast levelling class its like turbo speed
 
As an affliction lock, I don't remember the last time I had to drink something. :lol

Improved Life Tap + Dark Pact + Essence Infused Mushroom FTW

On that note, I just changed my spec up a little bit because I hadn't in a while and I wanted to make myself a little bit more competitive for raiding and the like. I used to be almost purely affliction with a few points into some of the early demon talents (imp, healthstone, etc.) and I just changed over to 40/0/21- good move or not? The biggest differences are my newfound lack of Unstable Affliction, the loss of a few defensive things, (like the improved stamina and healthstones I had from the Demon treee) Shadowburn, and much better destro spells in general. I figure it was worth sacrificing one dot to improve the casting time and crit chance on my Shadowbolt spam as well get Ruin as I'm spamming Shadowbolts almost as much as I'm putting out dots anyway.
 
While it's not hunter fast I've been leveling an enhance shaman lately. Holy shit this class is fast, I'm only at level 49 but I spend on average less than 2 hours per level easily right now. It should get even better at 50 when I get Sham. rage and won't need to drink water anymore.
 
traveler said:
As an affliction lock, I don't remember the last time I had to drink something. :lol

Improved Life Tap + Dark Pact + Essence Infused Mushroom FTW

On that note, I just changed my spec up a little bit because I hadn't in a while and I wanted to make myself a little bit more competitive for raiding and the like. I used to be almost purely affliction with a few points into some of the early demon talents (imp, healthstone, etc.) and I just changed over to 40/0/21- good move or not? The biggest differences are my newfound lack of Unstable Affliction, the loss of a few defensive things, (like the improved stamina and healthstones I had from the Demon treee) Shadowburn, and much better destro spells in general. I figure it was worth sacrificing one dot to improve the casting time and crit chance on my Shadowbolt spam as well get Ruin as I'm spamming Shadowbolts almost as much as I'm putting out dots anyway.
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You're doing it wrong then.

Unstable Affliction is basically like having a second Corruption. If you specced that far into Affliction and didn't get UA then what's the point? Just respec Destro then.
 
Not true.

The top dps raid specs are as follows:

T4 and T5: 40/21/10

T6: 40/0/21

The spec you chose, to be honest, you probably dont have the gear for. You need 202 hit, about 17-18% crit, and over 1100 shadow damage for 40/0/21 to provide more damage output than a Shadow Mastery/Demonic Sacrifice based spec
 
Hero said:
You're doing it wrong then.

Unstable Affliction is basically like having a second Corruption. If you specced that far into Affliction and didn't get UA then what's the point? Just respec Destro then.
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I figured my shadowbolts were responsible for more damage than UA, so running up the Destro tree to grab Ruin along with some other bonuses would probably net more of a DPS gain than UA would. (As for why I went 40 in Affliction- Dark Pact and Malediction. There also weren't any better alternatives in the destro tree since I was only putting points into it for the shadow boost, not the flame boost.)

But, yeah, dave is probably right. I've seen my exact spec used commonly in raids, but the typical lock that used it definitely had much better gear than me. I should have probably waited a while to get the most out of it.

Edit: What's the deal with the 40/21/0 spec? If you're going to go Demonic Sacrifice, why bother with Dark Pact?

Edit2: What would be an example of an ideal talent breakdown for the 40/21/0? I just tried my hand and making one and came up with this:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info...0030133200100000000000000000000000000000#none
 
figured i'd post this here

i have a 70 horde hunter that i dont really play that i figured i might as well sell

its a pretty fresh 70 so i'm only looking for around $125-150 bucks

its a female orc hunter, pvp server, transfer available in approximately 5 days

2 piece s1 gladiator, 2 piece welfare pvp set, 16k honor saved

would be a good starter character if anyone wanted to get back into the game, or if they wanted to play a hunter
 
border said:
I thought the S1 set was considered the "welfare" set? :D
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hmm whats worse than welfare? maybe we'll call it 3rd world country set idk

on my server they call s3 geared out ppl welfare geared so idk
 
Hero said:
You're doing it wrong then.

Unstable Affliction is basically like having a second Corruption. If you specced that far into Affliction and didn't get UA then what's the point? Just respec Destro then.
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Unstable Affliction has a cast time, which would be better spent in almost any situation on a shadowbolt. UA is great for messing with dispellers and in mass pvp for the confusion factor. In PvE and most other PVP, however, the cast time doesn't make it worth it. And spending 40 points in Affliction is totally worth it. There's an instant cast Howl of Terror right before you get to UA.


Also, traveler, I don't ever bother with fel concentration if I don't plan on solo'ing. It's a waste of 5 points if you are in a dps position and shouldn't even be getting hit in the first place. But it's useful if you are gonna be getting into scrapes farming or in pvp, I guess.

Here's my build that I'm just dicking around with right now (not a serious build, as I'm on hiatus from raiding)
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?5502202012230115512001000000000000000000000505000512200010000000

Move the healthstone over to Malediction as needed. You can also move the Imp Curse of Agony around, too. I just put points there and in Empowered Corruption because most encounters, if I'm not doing a Curse of Elements/Shadows, I'm casting Corruption, Agony then spamming bolts till things die.
 
keeblerdrow said:
Unstable Affliction has a cast time, which would be better spent in almost any situation on a shadowbolt. UA is great for messing with dispellers and in mass pvp for the confusion factor. In PvE and most other PVP, however, the cast time doesn't make it worth it. And spending 40 points in Affliction is totally worth it. There's an instant cast Howl of Terror right before you get to UA.
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So you're saying it's worth going 40 points into Affliction to invest two talent points for an instant cast Howl of Terror but not 41 points for Unstable Affliction? Gotcha.

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I will submit that UA is not as good for raiding anymore after some more research. But still, it's silly to go 40 points deep into a tree. I guess that's how Ele shamans are too though.
 
keeblerdrow said:
Unstable Affliction has a cast time, which would be better spent in almost any situation on a shadowbolt.
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The cast time is the same as the global cooldown on any other dot, and it will do more damage than any non-crit shadowbolt -- I'm not sure why it's such an issue.
 
border said:
The cast time is the same as the global cooldown on any other dot, and it will do more damage than any non-crit shadowbolt -- I'm not sure why it's such an issue.
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I'll grant that, but I rarely ever use UA outside of very specific situations. And the only reason I go that deep into Affliction is to boost the hell out of Corruption (and Curse of Agony) and I usually say fuckit, I'm already down here, might as well grab the Howl of Terror. But yeah, I get 40 points into Affliction, I get 20 points into Destruction and I choose Ruin.
 
I know how that is, choosing 21 point talents over 41 point ones... my elementalist mage was 0/40/21 for the longest time because Ice Block was just that damned useful compared to Dragon's Breath, a close range instant I wouldn't use as much.
 
yacobod said:
hmm whats worse than welfare? maybe we'll call it 3rd world country set idk

on my server they call s3 geared out ppl welfare geared so idk
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Same here. Any PvP gear is considered welfare where I come from.
 
Why is instant cast Howl of Terror so vital in raiding? I hardly ever use it as is and I can't really imagine using it all when not raiding or doing PvP. (And I hate PvP, so I rarely play it anyway)
 
traveler said:
Why is instant cast Howl of Terror so vital in raiding? I hardly ever use it as is and I can't really imagine using it all when not raiding or doing PvP. (And I hate PvP, so I rarely play it anyway)
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It's not. It's like a piece of flare for me. I'm already down there for Dark Pact and Contagion and I really like making people in BGs all blow their trinket at the same time, when I do hit it. Like I said, this is my fuck around spec now that I'm about to cancel my sub.
 
I messed up the numbers, I meant 30/21/10 for an Affliction raiding spec.

For an all purpose spec, you can put 40 points in Affliction for Dark Pact and/or Howl of Terror, but neither of those are too useful on raids. Heres how it breaks down:

If you're deciding between 40/0/21 and 41/0/20, UA will offer more DPS in most situations, assuming you're not in T6 gear.

If you're deciding between 41/20/0 and 40/21/0, or something similar, then DS will obviously result in more dps
 
Weenerz said:
Leveling fishing the last few days, holy hell what a chore. I'm at 290 atm, and I've easily spent 10 hours doing this shit.
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Yeah, I've been leveling fishing for the first time since my very first character. The completionist in me says to persevere, but holy crap is it slow.
 
Spruchy said:
Starting a new character, whats the funnest dps (no thx warrior, open to anything else).
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Rogue was fun for me the entire time leveling, frost mage was fun too, it got really fun with ice lance but you won't get that until like level 66.
 
I wouldn't go for an enhance shaman if you just wanna dps for fun. I'm leveling one right now and so far I'm lvl 52. It was pretty fucking boring until I got WF at 30..then it was fun for a level or 2 and fucking boring again until 40-41 when I got stormstrike and DW...Now its a blast but theres a lot of boring levels before it got fun ;(
 
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