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[UFRA]

How is Oakland not on that list??

 

[Cedric]

I'm shocked there aren't many African countries on this list

There's probably some sort of criteria. I mean, obviously I'd rather be in Detroit than, say, Kinshasa. They're probably basing the dangerousness off crime rate, not actual dangerous situations (like war).

 

[Lonely1]

And what did we learn today children....?











STAY THE FUCK OUT OF NORTHERN MEXICO (and New Orleans)!!!!

Fixed.

 

[Sickboy007]

The other side of the world doesn't have a massive drug trade.

Hell yes it does, just think of the central asian heroin trade.

I'm surprised there is no Russian city in the list.

 

[el retorno]

you sure this is the world? seems to be missing the other side of the world.

edit: well i see one middle eastern city is in there. Still seems odd..

Its cities with more than 300,000 people and for which statistics for homicides exist.

 

[Barbacoatl]

Fixed.

Thanks, sudaca.

Spoiler

heh

 

[clemenx]

To be fair these lists not always reflect the true level of danger for the average citizen. I live in no. 2 and most of the danger is in collateral damage. If you are involved in the conflict then yes, you are in great danger. But for the city folk the worst of this exceptional phase seems to have passed, hopefuly. If what the media told me was true, I should've died a long time ago.

Which is why I consider Caracas the most dangerous. We have similar murder rates but very few organized crime (though some of the Colombian drug trade is settling in here :/ but still nothing major) almostevery murder here is because of opposing resistance to robbery. It's depressing.

 

[IceCold]

Yeah that'd be them. Are city names generally directly translated like these in Spanish even though they are proper nouns?

Which language do you speak? This happens with literally every language...

 

[mysticwhip]

I can vouch for Kingston.

 

[Barbacoatl]

Which is why I consider Caracas the most dangerous. We have similar murder rates but very few organized crime (though some of the Colombian drug trade is settling in here :/ but still nothing major) almostevery murder here is because of opposing resistance to robbery. It's depressing.

Agreed, I rather roam my dear Warez than Caracas at night.

 

[el retorno]

To be fair these lists not always reflect the true level of danger for the average citizen. I live in no. 2 and most of the danger is in collateral damage. If you are involved in the conflict then yes, you are in great danger. But for the city folk the worst of this exceptional phase seems to have passed, hopefuly. If what the media told me was true, I should've died a long time ago.

I always wish this kind of stuff was brought up instead of pure numbers. I always feel mexico gets a bad rap. Yes too many innocent people have been killed but a lot of the killed have been people who were mixed up with the drug trade rather than just randoms who were killed. I have plenty of mexican friends who have never felt in danger (neither have I when I've visted).

 

[bengraven]

Jesus Christ.

Mexico, Brazil, Mexico, Brazil, Mexico, Brazil...

Man, if they had more oil there we'd be doing something.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

good job, South and Central America.

 

[DiscoJer]

43 Saint Louis, USA
44 Mosul, Iraq

Woohoo! St. Louis! I knew we'd make the list.


But I think it does illustrate the ridiculousness of our propensity to meddle over seas and tell other countries what to do, when we have serious problems here at home we should be addressing.

 

[Lonely1]

Which is why I consider Caracas the most dangerous.

Dunno, San Pedro Sula sound very dangerous.

 

[JDeluis]

#20 Represent! Voz!

 

[AAK]

Ctrl+F: Pakistan... 0 results

I'm relatively surprised.

 

[NH Apache]

Nola 21 lololol

 

[Stat Flow]

Hey I'm from Baltimore City, it ain't so bad.

...

 

[Mgoblue201]

Jesus Christ.

Mexico, Brazil, Mexico, Brazil, Mexico, Brazil...

Man, if they had more oil there we'd be doing something.

Mexico, Brazil, and Venezuela are three of the top 11 oil producers in the world (and produce more oil than Iraq or Libya). Most of it is off shore, I think.

 

[entremet]

south african cities are more dangerous than other cities in africa? i find that hard to believe...

I'm guessing getting accurate stats in those other cities may be difficult.

 

[Valhelm]

New Orleans is higher than Detroit? Damn.

 

[eternaLightness]

Can't believe how much violence is still in N.O. It was bad right after Katrina and still going.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

No Liberia?

The study indicates that for the analysis considers all cities in the world with over 300,000 inhabitants, of which there is statistical information on homicides available online.

Now it makes sense.

 

[Biscuits]

The possibility that war-torn cities can be safer than certain places in America blows my mind.

 

[CliqWriter]

Finally the US isn't on a "Worst ...." list.
Florida almost ruined it for us I bet.

 

[jbueno]

To be fair these lists not always reflect the true level of danger for the average citizen. I live in no. 2 and most of the danger is in collateral damage. If you are involved in the conflict then yes, you are in great danger. But for the city folk the worst of this exceptional phase seems to have passed, hopefuly. If what the media told me was true, I should've died a long time ago.

While it is indeed true that most of these studies take into consideration number of killed people, which nowadays are mostly organized-crime related, their activities nowadays include systematic armed robbery, kidnappings, extortion and other illegal activities which certainly do not require the victim to be involved with the cartels. The problem nowadays is that everyone can be a target for them, from the owner of a little convenience store to big shot business people and everyone in-between, for ransoms from $20,000 pesos to several million pesos. Hell I´ve even been kidnapped for fucks sake, we physicians are targeted for our services and for our wealth, if any; fortunately I was unharmed.

 

[Lonely1]

Also, normally War zones aren't counted (like Mogadishu).

 

[franknbeans]

Its disturbing how unstable much of the world below the U.S is. I say the hell with afganastan we need to head to mexico

 

[TheMan]

SMH at mexico, so sad to think about what the drug war is doing, and will continue to do, to that country. Monterrey makes me particularly sad- pretty much the entire side of my mom's family lives there and I'd love to go back with my wife and daughter (haven't been since i was 16), but i just don't feel safe doing so. One day.

 

[scogoth]

Nothing from Congo? List is only really considering developed countries.

 

[TheRagnCajun]

Apparently, South America is the most fucked up place on Earth.

My response exactly

 

[Jangocube]

Damn, Baltimore's in the top 50 =( Such a shame too. Some of the places are very beautiful, but others are definitely The Wire in appearance.

My great grandmothers neighborhood used to be so beautiful when she was growing up but now I wouldn't drive past her old house if ya paid me too. Drugs and poverty have just crushed a lot of neighborhoods in downtown Baltimore.

 

[FelixOrion]

The possibility that war-torn cities can be safer than certain places in America blows my mind.

Yeah, I was just about to ask. Why aren't cities like Damascus or Baghdad or Kabul on that list? I see there is one Iraqi city, but that's it.

Edit:

Also, normally War zones aren't counted (like Mogadishu).

Ah, I see. Thank you.

 

[Peterthumpa]

Complete bullshit right there. My city (Belo Horizonte) more dangerous than Rio de Janeiro? I mean, I know that Rio is getting better concerning security in the last few years, but Belo Horizonte at 45 and no signs of Rio in that list makes no fuckin' sense.

My city is absolutely ok concerning security (for a big city), those numbers are coming from somebody's ass.

 

[DiscoJer]

Yeah that'd be them. Are city names generally directly translated like these in Spanish even though they are proper nouns?

Well, St. Louis should actually be pronounced the French way "Sin-loo-we"? since it was originally founded by the French and named after King Louis IX. Not until the Louisiana Purchase was it part of the US...

Though it's interesting, you do sometimes see the spanish name used in a few places (even though we have almost no hispanics here for some reason)

 

[Para bailar La Bomba]

Detroit is more dangerous than Mosul?

No Red Wings fans in Mosul.

 

[twobear]

cities in iran + afghanistan = 0

cities in usa = 4

 

[Regulus Tera]

I'm from Mazatlán. Top 15.

 

[Lonely1]

I'm from Mazatlán. Top 15.

Huh? i though you were from Guadalajara.

 

[Sickboy007]

It's not just the missing warzones, whatever criteria they had in mind, this list sucks badly.

This is more like it:

10. Conakry, Guinea Republic

9. Nairobi, Kenya

8. Sana’a, Yemen

7. Tbilisi, Georgia

6. Karachi, Pakistan

5. Kinshasa, Democratic Rep. of the Congo

4. Bangui, Central African Republic

3. Abidjan, Côte d’Ivoire

2. N’Djamena, Chad

1. Baghdad, Iraq

 

[Regulus Tera]

Huh? i though you were from Guadalajara.

I was born in California, lived in Mazatlán since I was one month old until elementary school, went to school in Guadalajara until high school, spent high school in Mazatlán again and I am living in Houston right now.

Pero las Chivas son las mejores.

 

[Lonely1]

It's not just the missing warzones, whatever criteria they had in mind, this list sucks badly.

This is more like it:

I believe the criteria is murders per capita.

 

[Peterthumpa]

I believe the criteria is murders per capita.

Number of murders per 100.000 people.

 

[Norml]

Brazil 14
México 12
Colombia 5
South Africa 4
USA 4
Venezuela 3
Honduras 2
Guatemala 1
El Salvasor 1
Puerto Rico 1
Jamaica 1
Iraq 1
Panamá 1

Brazil FTL!

 

[Lonely1]

Number of murders per 100.000 people.

Which is equivalent, .

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

Americans just don't know how to have fun.

 

[Sub_Level]

Juarez is top 10 even when including war zones.

 

[Peterthumpa]

Which is equivalent, .

Is it? Always thought that "per capita" meant "per head" or in other words, for each person.

 

[Sickboy007]

I believe the criteria is murders per capita.

Looks like they didn't have enough data from Africa or Western and Central Asia, which makes it a bit pointless.