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Wow, Castlevania SOTN is kind of disappointing...

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Matlock

Banned
So easy, so straightforward, so familiar. After playing LoI and AoS, this seems extremely old hat to me.

Not to mention the fact that if you have holy water, you rule the game. :p

Meh.
 
M

Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
I've played through SotN more than any other CV game, I think. But I liked AoS, Rondo of Blood, and SCV4 more.
 
Dice

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
What do you expect? It was pretty much the design base for those other games you mentioned. Don't complain that a game is simplistic compared to it's sequel. This is like saying MGS isn't all it was cracked up to be because you're comparing it to MGS2.
 
N

Nintendo Ate My Children

Member
Niche game is released
Niche game is the best game ever
Years pass
Niche game isn't so great
You like niche game? What a tool.

As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end.
 
M

Matlock

Banned
Dice said:
What do you expect? It was pretty much the design base for those other games you mentioned. Don't complain that a game is simplistic compared to it's sequel. This is like saying MGS isn't all it was cracked up to be because you're comparing it to MGS2.
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MGS > MGS2, you fool.
 
Dice

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Actually I agree, but only because it replicated MGS1 except with bad level design and story. I was just trying to think of a similar example of expanded gameplay and challenge from a base concept.
 
A

ArcadeStickMonk

Member
Matlock said:
MGS > MGS2, you fool.
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Ah, but if you'd played MGS2 first, you'd be dissapointed at how much simpler the gameplay of MGS was. All the missing details, the instant-on alarm, nobody has eyes...

Maybe that's why we have Twin Snakes
 
R

Ranger X

Member
And well, Aria of Sorrow is not all that of an amelioration of Symphony of the night... SOTN is still the best "metroid style" Castlevania game around. Bigger, better, more polished.


And well, people are often deceived when they go back to discover old games. They never have the right hype. When you were in the buzz of SOTN when it came out, it was fantastic. If you discover it today, for sure it's not going to be as cool as the fans of the game told you because they bathed in the initial buzz...
 
K

Kiriku

SWEDISH PERFECTION
Well, after playing through all the Castlevania games released after SOTN, I still hold SOTN as the best Action RPG Castlevania ever.
 
crumbs

crumbs

Member
I can understand not being impressed by an older game, but AoS is like SotN Lite. Outside of the soul system, it doesn't have the depth of SotN.
 
T

The Promised One

Banned
SotN is one of the best games EVER, IMO. Did you make it to the upside-down castle? I've know a lot of people who were disappointed with the game, thinking it too short, until they found out that getting to Richter is only first half of the game. The game has so much depth in so many areas, it amazes me to this day. I've played through the game like 2o times at least, and still, every time I play through it again, I notice new details.

Awesome, awesome game!!
 
G

ge-man

Member
I would certainly put Super Castlevania 4 above SotN, but I do think that it is the best of the RPG like Castlevanias. For me, its one strike comes from being a weak challenge. The exploration was done quite well, however.

edit:Don't apologize. That paragraph looked like shit.
 
N

Neutron Night

Banned
SOTN is BY FAR the best Castlevania game. It makes a mockery of the crap that came before it, and it still far superior to all the games that came after it, no matter how much they attempted to mimic it. Do you have any taste?

Oh, I played Super Castlevania 4, it sucked. Standard old-school action crap, fun optional. I think not.
 
S

Socreges

Banned
SoTN might have been my favourite PSX game.

I can see playing the GBA ones hurting your enjoyment of it, though. Not that they're better, but just so similar.
 
T

The Promised One

Banned
Rondo and CV4 are tied for second place IMO. The reaper in both those games was awesome. I remember when I first got my SNES for XMAS, and after playing Mario all day, I pooped in CV4 to try it out. I was totally floored at how awesome it looked, and how great a game it was. That room with the spinning background make me queasy.
 
Kuramu

Kuramu

Member
The Promised One said:
SotN is one of the best games EVER, IMO. Did you make it to the upside-down castle? I've know a lot of people who were disappointed with the game, thinking it too short, until they found out that getting to Richter is only first half of the game. The game has so much depth in so many areas, it amazes me to this day. I've played through the game like 2o times at least, and still, every time I play through it again, I notice new details.

Awesome, awesome game!!
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I had no idea about the upsidedown castle until i saw mention of getting, like, 189%, and i was like wha? It was a while ago, but i forget, was it all that obvious that you needed to fight him a second time?
 
T

The Promised One

Banned
Kuramu said:
I had no idea about the upsidedown castle until i saw mention of getting, like, 189%, and i was like wha? It was a while ago, but i forget, was it all that obvious that you needed to fight him a second time?
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You don't fight Richter twice. You have to equip these two rings you find at the Big Clock face in the middle of the map. This leads to Maria giving you a special pair of glasses. Wearing these glasses while fighting Richter will allow you to see an orb floating about the room. Destroy the orb in stead of Richter, and you'll set him free from Shaft controling his mind. This leads to the upside-down castle, which is an exact duplicate of the normal castle, but with completely new bosses, and mostly new enemies. not to mention a slew of more (and insanely cool) weapons, armor, and other such items. The best two swords in the game IMO, are Narsil (found by killing a Fire Demon, and luckily having it drop the sword), and the Rune Sword (by getting lucky when you kill the Do-Do bird).

The Final enemy is Dracula (big-surprise). The largest % I've gotten (aside from the outside the castle cheat-glitch) is 200.6 . Awesome, awesome game.
 
boutrosinit

boutrosinit

Street Fighter IV World Champion
Matlock said:
So easy, so straightforward, so familiar. After playing LoI and AoS, this seems extremely old hat to me.

Not to mention the fact that if you have holy water, you rule the game. :p

Meh.
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This news is DUMB.
 
M

Matlock

Banned
Okay, just beat the Scylla. The graphics and sound is still pretty damn hot, but the game is so familiar to me now, I don't feel that rush of discovery that I get when I buy a new game.

Plus, I really liked the soul system in AoS. It's a pain not having it here (instead having touchy, non-responsive SF-type moves for equivalent moves).
 
M

Matlock

Banned
"Sense of discovery" was referring to the feeling you get when you buy a new game. "Wow, this is new! Gotta look at this! Awesome! How do I do this?" That whole barrage.
 
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ArcadeStickMonk

Member
Matlock said:
"Sense of discovery" was referring to the feeling you get when you buy a new game. "Wow, this is new! Gotta look at this! Awesome! How do I do this?" That whole barrage.
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And the soul system was enough to clinch it?

AoS was good, but all it does is try to emulate SotN as much as possible.

I'd take the huge amount of weapons of SotN over the souls from AoS anyday.
 
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ArcadeStickMonk

Member
Mejilan said:
Getting the Power Bombs didn't require much floor/ceiling/wall shooting at all!
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The game holds them back until the latter third. If Fusion wasn't in my pocket when I was bored and away from SotN I would have never finished it.
 
M

Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
Yes, I'm well versed in all things Metroid. I know all about the Power Bombs. Just making sure you do, thanks.
 
F

FrenchMovieTheme

Member
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lol! who is that? that shit is funny dude
 
O

Operations

Member
Quite the contrary, I found LoI easier and more boring that SotN. Even the N64 Castlevania Legacy of Darkness had better puzzles and was a little bit longer (I finished LoI in 6 hours with 100% my fist time through). LoI was a HUGE dissapointment.
 
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GDJustin

stuck my tongue deep inside Atlus' cookies
I'm AMAZED that no one has mentioned SotN's soundtrack yet. Not only is it my favorite Castlevania soundtrack, it's my favorite game soundtrack EVER. And I've played a lot of RPGs. The music is sooooo good. I haven't played the game in years and I still know every note of some of the tracks.
 
A

Alucard

Banned
Awesome, awesome game. But maybe I'm biased...although I will say that I was pretty underwhelmed with the game at first. Then the first hour passed...then the second...then it became my favourite game ever, period. I would try to tell people why I think it's so utterly amazing, but I know my words would be wasted. :p

And if you find the game too easy, use the code to up the difficulty.
 
M

Matlock

Banned
GDJustin said:
I'm AMAZED that no one has mentioned SotN's soundtrack yet. Not only is it my favorite Castlevania soundtrack, it's my favorite game soundtrack EVER. And I've played a lot of RPGs. The music is sooooo good. I haven't played the game in years and I still know every note of some of the tracks.
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I like LoI's a bit better. Soundtrack, that is.
 
B

bjork

Member
Like other's said, without SotN to copy from, you wouldn't have the GBA CV games you like.

SotN is a really solid game that's still great today, but I guess it boils down to a matter of opinion in the end.
 
G

Gattsu25

Banned
Neutron Night said:
SOTN is BY FAR the best Castlevania game. It makes a mockery of the crap that came before it, and it still far superior to all the games that came after it, no matter how much they attempted to mimic it. Do you have any taste?
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:D
 
T

Tabris

Member
SOTN was all about style!

It wasn't about beating the game, it was about how you went about beating the game.

Enemy infront of you? equip alucard sword then do a hadoken to disappear and reappear behind the enemy to slash them. Then equip the sword that stretchs out into mid-air because of the other enemy that just wandered infront of you. I mean just an example.

There's so many different -stylish- ways you can go about playing the game. It's all about the style. Sure, you can just run around with alucard shield + shield rod and defeat everything, but that's not what the game is about.

Style! Learn it and love it.

Combine that with the best castlevania soundtrack ever, absolutely amazing artstyle and solid quick paced gameplay and you have a stellar game. The only complaint anyone can have towards the game is "too easy". I completly agree, but you can find so much challenge if you try playing the game without equiping the uber equipment.

Anyone who says straight-foward, I'm guessing didn't get to the upside-down castle.
 
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