WSJ: ''Mojang to be bought by Microsoft'

Found on Slashdot:

http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5676545&cid=47867469

Posting anonymous because I really shouldn't be saying this. Yes, it's for real: notch wants to sell out. It's been known inside the company for weeks. The news hit the developers in the Stockholm office very hard to the point that people were actually sobbing. No-one's happy besides the two people likely to end up with a large pile of cash after this goes down.

So... what will Microsoft end up getting out of this then?

I think MS just wants to buy access to the next generation of gamers. Minecraft is the King of the schoolyard and playground. Now that Nintendo is not converting people into gamers MS will grab the opportunity with Minecraft.

This actually makes a LOT of sense... good post! But good lord, I would not want to be the person tasked with that...

If they take the "Minecraft 2" approach, how do they do it in a way that would be effective? And really, what else COULD they do? It can't be a new IP... they wouldn't have needed to buy Majong for that...

My head is spinning... lol
 
Minecraft was such a unique hit that probably won't be replicated or surpassed, at least by Mojang.

Makes sense for Notch to take the money and run, why not?
 
So... what will Microsoft end up getting out of this then?



This actually makes a LOT of sense... good post!

An incredibly popular IP that could potentially make them a shit load of money, possibly sell devices/systems (not just xbox related), vastly increased exposure to demographics it normally has a hard time with, possibly creating tv shows/movies, and I think if they put together a talented enough team (either the one they have now or another if they all leave) then Minecraft still has lots of room for improvement while still maintaining it's charm which could lead to it reaching an even higher level of popularity than it is now as hard as that may be to believe.

Maybe? lol
 
Aren't they the guys making Elder Scrolls? Megaton

Ahahahahahahahahahaha, best fucking post in the whole internet

But seriously for 2 billion Notch is getting out like a prince, as if he didn't already make a killing. I think it's clear at this point that he's peaked creatively, and minecraft is already on everything and owned by just about everyone who could want it outside of Nintendo platforms which almost assuredly wouldn't happen with this acquisition. Where is MS expecting to make up the cost of this deal? You can't monetize the patches due to Mojang's albeit tacit promise of keeping all post release content free, or at least on PC. I suppose the console versions are behind enough they could hold out the later PC content hostage as DLC or something.
 
Perhaps it's a desperate swing to get back in the next gen game. Release Minecraft 2 exclusive to XBOne. But is there really a need for a sequel? Will it go the way of Angry Birds before then? I think it's a very risky buy and a great sell. Microsoft have a horrific track record when it comes to acquisition.
 
Microsoft could really lock down Minecraft after this if they thought it would sell systems.

Thankfully there are some really good open source minecraft alternatives that the modding community can flock to.
 
Makes sense for Microsoft and Notch.

Makes no sense for literally everybody else on earth.

Really think MS has missed this train, though.
 
Found on Slashdot:

http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5676545&cid=47867469

Posting anonymous because I really shouldn't be saying this. Yes, it's for real: notch wants to sell out. It's been known inside the company for weeks. The news hit the developers in the Stockholm office very hard to the point that people were actually sobbing. No-one's happy besides the two people likely to end up with a large pile of cash after this goes down.

No wonder they were upset, I can imagine Microsoft would plan to fill Mojang with a bunch of different people, pushing out most of the original team. Notch don't care though, his lazy ass is going to be getting cash. While the people who actually developed the game for the last 3 years will be screwed over.
 
Over the past 20 years I've bought about 10 different versions of Tetris. I'm missing your point.

Tetris came out around 25 years ago and has sold 100ish million. It didn't exist on a place like the app store initially, so yeah, you'd need to have bought a new copy. Minecraft can still be accessed on a new pc or smartphone, so your point isn't that relevant. They'll have to do sequels. Like Tetris 2 or Wii Sports Club. It won't be as successful. Every company of this nature has been a flash in the pan so far.
 
As one of the mods said pages ago, the brand sold 200 million in merchandise last year, I I think that there's still a lot of room for growth in that segment.

I'm not saying minecraft is pokemon, but if you asked people 18 years ago if it would still be going this strong and not just a fad, they'd probably say no.

Now the ball is in microsofts court to be innovative with the property and not let it get stagnant.

They probably won't pull minecraft off of ps stuff, but I can see upcoming premium content or minecraft 2 being console exclusive to xbox, while remaining on iOS, Mac android and PC.
 
Tetris came out around 25 years ago and has sold 100ish million. It didn't exist on a place like the app store initially, so yeah, you'd need to have bought a new copy. Minecraft can still be accessed on a new pc or smartphone, so your point isn't that relevant. They'll have to do sequels. Like Tetris 2 or Wii Sports Club. It won't be as successful. Every company of this nature has been a flash in the pan so far.

My point is fine. This is a good investment imo.
 
Microsoft had a three game publishing deal for Mass Effect at one time.

Im pretty sure it was only a 2 game deal, like Gears of War then they would review it and decide whether to extend (which Epic did and clearly EA didn't)

Which would partly explain why ME2 was timed exclusive (that and development time, i'd guess) whereas ME3 was day 1, especially considering how MS held on to ME1 exclusivity on consoles for as long as they could
 
No wonder they were upset, I can imagine Microsoft would plan to fill Mojang with a bunch of different people, pushing out most of the original team. Notch don't care though, his lazy ass is going to be getting cash. While the people who actually developed the game for the last 3 years will be screwed over.

Yup. Also remember that as far as we can see, pretty much all the profit at Mojang goes to Notch. Not much hope of a profit-sharing, I'd wager.

There was a smallish one-off bonus in the past, but otherwise it seems to be a big payoff for only the select few.

Not that I judge him as such. His game, his profit.
 
Seems like it would be a pretty good get for MS. They'd definitely have a lot of options available to wringe dollars out of the brand in a big way.
 
They should use that money and buy RockStar, now that would make a dent. Not fucking Minecraft. Better still buy multiple studios. Bioware and Remedy for example. It's an absurd deal.
 
Who says it will though? Do you remember Tetris 2?
These are very different games in terms of the potential expansion of the experience that can be offered in a sequel. I'd wager there'd at least be a captive child audience for several Minecraft sequels a la Lego, Skylanders, etc. Factor in content tie-ins to other popular franchises like Marvel, LOTR, etc. And that's just being cynical capitalist about it. Thinking in terms that remain purer to the core MC concept, there's still vast untapped potential that's far beyond what a sequel to such a deliberately focused, precisely restricted game concept like Tetris could offer.
 
They should use that money and buy RockStar, now that would make a dent. Not fucking Minecraft. Better still buy multiple studios. Bioware and Remedy for example. It's an absurd deal.

If you were Microsoft, with the chance to buy Minecraft/Mojang, considering all the money they have overseas as well, you would not pass it up.

Who says Rockstar would want to be owned by Microsoft? Bioware I suspect had the chance to be owned by Microsoft as well (or could have approached them) and went to Elevation Partners then to EA - which I think was a planned move.

I would personally rather they went and acquired some of their close partners and other developers but from a business standpoint if MS could do the deal they'd be mad to pass it up and let someone else buy them
 
I hope not. It would be pretty disappointing to see the single most successful indie company ever bought out by Microsoft!

I guess it could be worse. It could be EA.
 
For some reason I have this bad feeling in my gut about what the game will become.

Good for Notch tho.

Same. I want to be pleasantly surprised. I want to see amazing visuals, Oculus support, multi-platform servers. I'm worried about exclusivity, annual releases rather than updates, micro transactions and always online.

I'm hoping that bad feeling is from previous burns. Hopefully this will work out for everyone and not just Microsoft and the Mojang Board.
 
Who says it will though? Do you remember Tetris 2?

There are a lot of possible improvements one could make in a Minecraft sequel without changing the core gameplay - far more than can be done with Tetris or Angry Birds. I would say Minecraft is one of the easiest games to dream up a sequel for. It's why modding the game is so popular.

I'm repeating myself now but Microsoft probably is hoping Minecraft goes the way of Pokemon. It can't sustain it's current popularity, but could remain hugely popular for many many years if they play their cards right.
 
If Notch doesn't want to run the company anymore, he doesn't have to sell it.

Just promote/hire someone and sit back while the money comes in.

This is pretty antithetical to the values his public persona has espoused over the last few years.
 
This is such an odd thing. Is it confirmed? Have we heard anything? Marcus seems to be inactive on Twitter.
 
As one of the mods said pages ago, the brand sold 200 million in merchandise last year, I I think that there's still a lot of room for growth in that segment.

If $200m of Minecraft licensed merchandise was sold last year how much do you think the license fees that Mojang earned were?

How does that compare with the amount if profit.required to make a return on $2 billion?
 
Yup. Also remember that as far as we can see, pretty much all the profit at Mojang goes to Notch. Not much hope of a profit-sharing, I'd wager.

There was a smallish one-off bonus in the past, but otherwise it seems to be a big payoff for only the select few.

Not that I judge him as such. His game, his profit.
Mojang's largest expenditure each year goes to Minecraft creator Markuss 'Notch' Persson, who retains the rights to the game; while he is a co-founder of Mojang, he still receives licensing fees for the title, paid to a separate company he owns. These amounted to 821 million kronor in 2013, which is slightly more than Mojang's annual profit.

Lol
 
I'm just yelling my opinions at my cat right now, because I haven't gone this fanboy since the Sonic vs. Mario days in the early 90s.

Scrolls and Cobalt are fucked. Transactions. Never mind, I'll keep yelling at the cat, because my opinions will get me banned.
 
I want this to be true just to see how Notch will spin it, given the mindless outcry for the Oculus buyout.
Or Notch spreading outright fud and shitting on how awful MS is for games and gamers.

Remember his not even wanting Minecraft to be available on win 8?



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Pretty shitty if 90% of Mojangs profits go straight to Notchs pockets.
 
There are a lot of possible improvements one could make in a Minecraft sequel without changing the core gameplay - far more than can be done with Tetris or Angry Birds. I would say Minecraft is one of the easiest games to dream up a sequel for. It's why modding the game is so popular.

I'm repeating myself now but Microsoft probably is hoping Minecraft goes the way of Pokemon. It can't sustain it's current popularity, but could remain hugely popular for many many years if they play their cards right.

I imagine they need more than hope to get the executive approval required for a $2 billion investment.
 
What sort of assumed agreement are you talking about?

I'm not wholly sure, in all honesty. I'd have thought if Sony had made the deal to bring Minecraft to Playstation - and especially with the insider rumours that Notch was up for selling (which I'd assume if it were the case then it would probably be well-known within those circles) that they'd have something written into the contract which would make sure that if Mojang or the rights to Minecraft were sold that they wouldn't be cut out of the loop in anyway after their initial investment.

I'm only spitballing here, I have no idea how it works in business practices.

Of course, a Minecraft II would probably be a different kettle of fish.

Like I say, I'm just curious as to how this would all come about seeing as how it was only announced for PS relatively recently. I know that if I was in a different line of work, had just bought the rights to use something and then the company I bought it off was sold and I lost those rights, it would irk me, so I'd assume there was some clause in the agreement to prevent that sort of thing happening, at least for a while.

Going back to my original post though, I don't know how these things work at all, but I'm genuinely curious to see how it pans out.

$2 Billion is an awful lot of money just for name and merchandise rights though, I'd have thought, even for Minecraft.

EDIT:

Just to clarify, this is assuming that Microsoft are going to take the game and run with it, which I realise is just supposition. But again my last line kind of leads into that - $2 billion is an awful lot of money for just the name and merchandise rights.

If you get me.
 
I'm assuming he's referring to product support agreements which have term. These agreements would transfer over to the new owners.

Oh sure, games already released will probably get updates. Some, at least. I wouldn't count on significant support of Sony systems here on out, though, if these rumors are true. Very rarely does a buyout like this mean instantaneous dropping of all support of any kind on competing platforms.
 
Rewind three years.

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Angry Birds is free on Android, though, or 99 cents on iOS. Most people played it for short bursts. It was incredibly popular, but also relatively throwaway in nature.

Minecraft costs $8-30, and has spawned incredibly popular YouTube channels and a vibrant community. People who play it are invested in it.

I'm not saying Minecraft is guaranteed to continue to be succesful, but it's got a much stronger base to build from.
 
I just can't see this happening and I can't really imagine MS even attempting to buy Mojang as I kind of have an image of MS spending less money on gaming after the last reorganisation and focus on mobile and cloud.

Unless this purchase comes from a division outside of Microsoft Studios'. I can kind of see the Windows Group trying to acquire Mojang and putting Minecraft into Windows 9 right next to Solitaire.

Isn't the main code base for Minecraft written in Java? If MS bought it would MS rewrite it in C++, .NET or some language they have more control/knowledge over?
 
I just hope they don't mess with game itself if they do buy them. I think Minecraft is the type of game that should never have a sequel but it should still continue to evolve the way it is with the amazing community it has and the ease of access for everyone. The community aspect of Minecraft is what makes it special and diving into the whole sequel grounds is only asking to break that up.

If Microsoft wants to fund them to develop something else on the side I would be ok with that. If this allows them to get some more people to work on Minecraft updates that would be fine as well and they can market the crap out of Minecraft if they want but just don't make drastic changes to the game itself or restrict platforms from accessing it. That is the only real concerns I have with this situation.
 
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