Bluekaveli
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This might be the funniest thing I've read all morning but we know that WWE can't even plan a week ahead. There's no way in hell they have Summerslam in mind lol.
But these are my personal fix ups.
I will have more later on.
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This might be the funniest thing I've read all morning but we know that WWE can't even plan a week ahead. There's no way in hell they have Summerslam in mind lol.
But these are my personal fix ups.
I will have more later on.
Heh. Funny eh? That's what happens if you have no clue want is going on, so before I say anything further I want to know what's the deal with these snap notes.
That's what I thought, which was why I said are these your thoughts on what you think the WWE storyline should be link from now till Summerslam.
I don't think what he was saying, but he did muddy the point.
At least from what I gathered
The whole point of a heel authority figure is for them to eventually get their comeuppance from the babyfaces.
Vince got stunned, beer drenched and a ton more during the Austin/McMahon storyline.
Vickie got Tombstoned.
Bischoff was tossed out of power.
Etc
Triple H... hasn't really had that happen.
Big Show knocked him out and WWE.com tried to make it an interesting story, but Triple H was back the next week "I'm fine guys!"
Daniel Bryan kneed him in the Hell in a Cell, but Triple H still got what he needed and nothing came of it.
He has literally been able to bully and get his way without any sort of consequences from the babyfaces.
Not on a level where it matters. Most of his PPV losses come from guys who were already established, or are his workout buddies.
Batista mattered a whole lot, was the main event of Wrestlemania, and was a super clean finish.
Carnby
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Workout buddy
Bluekaveli
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Hunter is selfish and it's ridiculous to be honest. He puts himself in the limelight all the time because he can't accept that his time is over.
Orton should've beaten HHH at WM, how do you have Orton go down looking weak like that?
Hunter should've put Punk over. Many people say that it worked for Punk long term but no, it was stupid.
Lesnar should've beaten HHH last year at WM.
Many people use the argument that Vince put himself in the biggest feud against Austin during the 90s but Vince did that to make Austin the biggest baddest character in the company. Sure, Vince won the rumble but Austin beat him the next month then won the title from the rock at WM.
Hunter put over his boys and Vince's project(John Cena).
Many people look at HBK and say he was a jerk when he was the champion but he came back and put over more talent than I can count.
Hunter needs to realize that he's not helping business to be honest.
Orton should've beaten HHH at WM, how do you have Orton go down looking weak like that?
Hunter should've put Punk over. Many people say that it worked for Punk long term but no, it was stupid.
Lesnar should've beaten HHH last year at WM.
Many people use the argument that Vince put himself in the biggest feud against Austin during the 90s but Vince did that to make Austin the biggest baddest character in the company. Sure, Vince won the rumble but Austin beat him the next month then won the title from the rock at WM.
Hunter put over his boys and Vince's project(John Cena).
Many people look at HBK and say he was a jerk when he was the champion but he came back and put over more talent than I can count.
Hunter needs to realize that he's not helping business to be honest.
DeaconKnowledge
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Who in their right mind would seriously argue that Vince put himself in to push Vince? WWF was riding high for a lot of reasons but the biggest ones were the twists in the Austin Vince feud.
Perspicacity
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The notion of someone believing that notes from a WWE script meeting leaking out on GAF is absurdly funny.
Vince was badder than Austin.
Batista going over HHH in 2005 was the logical end to a storyline where Dave was already over huge for a long time and you knew WWF was invested in his look and character. The one risk, as was posted above, was Benoit. It looked like the 20 seconds of HHH's life it took to tap out at WM, made Benoit a bigger name than all those years in Japan and WCW did for him. And HHH lost nothing from it. Granted, that ended poorly in real life, but on a business end, that was HHH doing what was good for business.
Well Vince didn't put himself in the angle, he was the angle.
It was just gold.
And the thing is Triple H's time isn't over, it never was.
And that's the problem is, he keeps trying to prove that he was the man, but like he said of others, he was the guy who worked WITH the Guy.
I mean during his tenure, Austin and The Rock were the guys and when they left, it became Cena.
Bluekaveli
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The people on these websites I visit are questionable, you don't even want to know.
Vince was badder than Austin.
Batista going over HHH in 2005 was the logical end to a storyline where Dave was already over huge for a long time and you knew WWF was invested in his look and character. The one risk, as was posted above, was Benoit. It looked like the 20 seconds of HHH's life it took to tap out at WM, made Benoit a bigger name than all those years in Japan and WCW did for him. And HHH lost nothing from it. Granted, that ended poorly in real life, but on a business end, that was HHH doing what was good for business.
You're right on that end.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
They should've let Jericho keep the belt when he beat HHH in that one RAW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Su_XnbpDM#t=13m10s
That fucking pop at the end of that match.
DeaconKnowledge
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Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but who did HBK put over when he was the top guy before his back injury? Diesel?
Isn't he doing overseas work for UFC?
I think that's what he said... and he did put over Austin even if he was forced to due to the back injury.
Sid? That's his only other actual singles loss in 1994-1996 though, which is ridiculous.
Austin?
DeaconKnowledge
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So he can only count to 2? Sid (not Diesel, he beat him) and Austin. 2 guys.
Bluekaveli
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Nah, he wasn't ready they said.
Austin, Diesel, Hunter, and Sid.
Bluekaveli
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XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I didn't mean let him keep it long term, at least a week or at the longest the next PPV. Taking it away later that night was too soon.
Bluekaveli
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DeaconKnowledge
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My bad.
Still, of course Shawn was willing to put anybody over, he was over the hill by that point. Hardly an apt comparison to Trips. If anything, Triple H is following in HBK's footsteps and refusing to put anybody over, only he took it one step further by marrying into power.
LiquidMetal14
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LOLOLOL
Bluekaveli
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Man when HBK was 44 he was putting over everyone. In fact, when he was 37 he was putting over so much talent. Sure he didn't want to put over Hogan but that's another story; Hunter isn't a champion anymore so why is it hard for him to put people over? That's my problem.
Was that when Taker threatened to beat the crap out of him if he didn't put Austin over or am I thinking of another time?
DeaconKnowledge
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Its bookerman syndrome. Former wrestlers who have political power backstage can't help putting themselves on top. Only difference is I figured Vince would see what it did to WCW and try to steer clear.
Yep. I haven't watched wrestling in almost ten years (Last PPV I remember seeing was the one were HHH squashed Booker T, which one was that?) but i'm gonna miss Taker when he's gone for good.
edit: Wrestlemania XIX? Huh. Guess I watched for another few years after that.
Host Samurai
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Didn't he lose to Vader?
Also you can't compare 1994-1996 to 2005-2014. 2 years of being on top is a short stint by todays standards where there are like 10 shows and a PPV a month.
Not in 1994-96, but I missed the Razor Ramon match at WM10 anyway.
I think he was pinned by vader in some tag match, which means nothing. Then there's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUZizMxgSlY
Barrage
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One funny thing I think a lot of people aren't mentioning is that if they hadn't unified the World Titles, this would be such a smaller problem. They could've had Batista choose to go after the Smackdown World Title earlier in the Card, and have the main event be anything they want. Not saying the World Title unification was a bad thing, just that it was incidentally shitty timing.
Yeah it's a lot of smaller problems adding up into one massive fuck up. Although saying that there's still 2 belts so it wouldn't surprise me if they un-unify them just to try and solve this Batista problem.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
No joke--the crap they pulled on that exact show is what made me stop watching.
God this is verbatim what they did with Bryan last year.
FUCK THE FANS WE AREN'T TRYING ANYTHING HHH IS OUR GUY
replace HHH with Orton in 2013
Lee Chaolan
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Is Jericho still involved with the company? Would love to see more Y2J
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Batista's return drew the biggest ratings since like May of last year or something. Everyone wants to see Big DAVE, even if they don't know it yet.
ShabbadooJr
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You could hype the return of Gillberg for a month at it would get ratings too.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Let's be honest with ourselves for a second here...Gillberg would draw a 12.0 rating.
Host Samurai
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lettuce be real. Before the nWo invaded WCW, WCW was just not a cool company. It catered to hillbilly's and rednecks. As a kid, I just didn't find it being a "cool" product compared to the WWF. Everything about it was just so nerdy, the announcers, WCW Saturday night arena, the theme music and the production was just so uncool.
I now have a big appreciation for it though and can't wait to see old school Vader and Sting.
I now have a big appreciation for it though and can't wait to see old school Vader and Sting.
Wait 94-96?
Seems like an odd period
Wouldn't mid 95 to mid 97 make more sense
In 95, he lost to Diesel at WrestleMania 11
And believe he lost/got counted out at Survivor Series 94
The WWE also didn't put on as many PPVs and most TV matches were squashes until Nitro rolled around
Not defending the old HBK, but it is a weird time
How things changed in only two years...
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