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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years

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Son Of D

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I hope they don't fuck this stable up. It has some real potential. Anything that gets my boy Rusev gets back in the spotlight.

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That's a nice stable they've got going. Shame if someone were to bury them.

Can't wait for him to pin them all after being powerbombed off the titantron.
 

orioto

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I hope they don't fuck this stable up. It has some real potential. Anything that gets my boy Rusev gets back in the spotlight.

It has no potential at all. It's just the WWE using some really good wrestlers as puppet to have their champ look like a piece of shit and Reigns overcoming the odds. Recipe for disaster. It's not even a stable where they have some reason to be together. It's just Barret, Rusev and Del Rio selling out and losing any charisma in the process. Now they are just anonymous pawns.

Now for New day it's different i think it can work to have them in this kind of stable. They will still be fun, but at least they won't accidentally face turn every two weeks.
 

Hasney

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So football lost 4 million people, but they didn't all flock to wrasslin so a lot is viewership rot. Shocking, I know.

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That's a nice stable they've got going. Shame if someone were to bury them.

Can't wait for him to pin them all after being powerbombed off the titantron.

Wrong man. Tune in to Smackdown to find out! SD Spoiler
Roman wins a handicap match. So strong.
 
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I hope they don't fuck this stable up. It has some real potential. Anything that gets my boy Rusev gets back in the spotlight.

Outside of del Rio, perhaps the most boring "good" wrestler on the planet, this is a pretty dope heel team. Sheamus, one of the best wrestlers in the company, Barrett, a great talker, Rusev, who should be THE guy, and New Day, a.k.a. the best comedy group WWE have had in years. Throw Kevin Owens in there at some point, and baby, you got a stew going.
 

AlternativeUlster

Absolutely pathetic part deux
Outside of del Rio, perhaps the most boring "good" wrestler on the planet, this is a pretty dope heel team. Sheamus, one of the best wrestlers in the company, Barrett, a great talker, Rusev, who should be THE guy, and New Day, a.k.a. the best comedy group WWE have had in years. Throw Kevin Owens in there at some point, and baby, you got a stew going.

Ha! I do think KO works better has a lone heel though. Also, hello Snowy!
 
This past Monday’s edition of WWE Monday Night RAW drew an average of 3.17 million viewers. This officially brings the average RAW viewership to back over 3 million after dipping to 2.964 million viewers last week. Below is a breakdown of the hour-by-hour average viewership for this past Monday’s episode:

1st Hour- 3.309 million
2nd Hour- 3.190 million
3rd Hour- 3.005 million


SORRY GUYS! YOU LOSE!

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Now for the long reign of Sheamus! All hail Sheamus!
 
The main product is doing something very wrong when I get more hyped for this nonsense than anything they promote

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I am not even a huge fan of Jax's style
 
Aww dude, Jax is the shit. I better check this out

I think I can grow to like Jax, but she is currently getting pushed as Baron Corbin 2.0. Squash after squash is helping no one. It backed Corbin into a corner he is fighting to get out of right now. Her debut promo was the most interesting thing about her. I'd like something a bit more complex than she offers right now (weekly beatdowns), and NXT is usually good at offering that. Maybe if she actually lost, or was in jeopardy of losing a few times it would help?
 
Sheamus nearly knocking Lilian Garcia out off her chair made me laugh more than it should have.

I agree that the League of Nations stable has promise but they need a better mixture so maybe adding a high flyer like Neville could be good for them and him.
 
Nia Jax is being built as a monster, she needs to be squashing people. She's more suited for it than Corbin was/is IMO.

Eh, I think she's got a better look than him but in the ring she's far behind where Corbin was. Corbin always had a presence, a character and had a good looking strength move as his finisher. Nia has none of that.

Corbin just suffered because he did the same shit for a year. He transitioned really well when he started to have more competitive matches, which is another thing that I'm not sold on Jax being able to do.
 
I think I can grow to like Jax, but she is currently getting pushed as Baron Corbin 2.0. Squash after squash is helping no one. It backed Corbin into a corner he is fighting to get out of right now. Her debut promo was the most interesting thing about her. I'd like something a bit more complex than she offers right now (weekly beatdowns), and NXT is usually good at offering that. Maybe if she actually lost, or was in jeopardy of losing a few times it would help?
Yeah, it'd help if she got out of the squash matches sooner. I feel like she has the potential to do much more than she has been booked to do at the moment.
 
I think I can grow to like Jax, but she is currently getting pushed as Baron Corbin 2.0. Squash after squash is helping no one. It backed Corbin into a corner he is fighting to get out of right now. Her debut promo was the most interesting thing about her. I'd like something a bit more complex than she offers right now (weekly beatdowns), and NXT is usually good at offering that. Maybe if she actually lost, or was in jeopardy of losing a few times it would help?

NXT uses people with a good look or gimmick on TV in a limited fashion they know they are capable of pulling off, while continuing to develop them, and give them longer matches at untelevised events. I think Baron is doing just fine where he is and I think without that earlier TV time, he wouldn't be as comfortable in his character as he is right now.

It's better to use someone in a limited fashion on screen until they're ready. Remember what happened with Roman when they tried to use him for singles matches before he was ready for them? It sucked compared to the hot tag role he played in the shield.

In NXT over the last couple of years, I've seen a number of people find themselves on screen. Carmella, Alexa Bliss, Jason Jordan, Bull, Baron, even Dana... all at one time or another were doing short one sided matches. It gave them all time to get comfortable on screen.

Throw her into a longer match before she can go, and she's only a few botches away from finding herself in a much harder hole to crawl out of.
 
Nia Jax is being built as a monster, she needs to be squashing people. She's more suited for it than Corbin was/is IMO.

Asuka is a more interesting "monster" style character to me - even though she is not billed as one. I feel like she could kill anyone out there, and have fun doing it, but make it interesting to watch too.

Jax is killing people, siming about it, but she is not connecting with me. She is a few matches away from crowds booing her for simply existing IMO, and not for her in ring work.
 
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I hope they don't fuck this stable up. It has some real potential. Anything that gets my boy Rusev gets back in the spotlight.

IMO Stables bigger than 4 people rarely are any good. Once you get any bigger than that it gets harder for individuals to stand out. With 4 people everyone is distinct enough to shine. The Four Horsemen are the prototypical example. Even the NWO is generally cited to hae been better when there were less people.

The Dangerous Alliance is the exception, because the Dangerous Alliance fucking ruled.
 

Toki767

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IMO Stables bigger than 4 people rarely are any good. Once you get any bigger than that it gets harder for individuals to stand out. With 4 people everyone is distinct enough to shine. The Four Horsemen are the prototypical example. Even the NWO is generally cited to hae been better when there were less people.

The Dangerous Alliance is the exception, because the Dangerous Alliance fucking ruled.

The New Day aren't part of the stable anyway.
 
NXT uses people with a good look or gimmick on TV in a limited fashion they know they are capable of pulling off, while continuing to develop them, and give them longer matches at untelevised events. I think Baron is doing just fine where he is and I think without that earlier TV time, he wouldn't be as comfortable in his character as he is right now.

It's better to use someone in a limited fashion on screen until they're ready. Remember what happened with Roman when they tried to use him for singles matches before he was ready for them? It sucked compared to the hot tag role he played in the shield.

In NXT over the last couple of years, I've seen a number of people find themselves on screen. Carmella, Alexa Bliss, Jason Jordan, Bull, Baron, even Dana... all at one time or another were doing short one sided matches. It gave them all time to get comfortable on screen.

Throw her into a longer match before she can go, and she's only a few botches away from finding herself in a much harder hole to crawl out of.

I agree with all of this. I think Jax is good enough to do more than she is being asked right now. Basically, I think they are playing it too safe with her, and it could possibly grow to hurt her if they fail to let her loose in coming weeks.
 
Outside of del Rio, perhaps the most boring "good" wrestler on the planet, this is a pretty dope heel team. Sheamus, one of the best wrestlers in the company, Barrett, a great talker, Rusev, who should be THE guy, and New Day, a.k.a. the best comedy group WWE have had in years. Throw Kevin Owens in there at some point, and baby, you got a stew going.

yeah I really enjoyed their appearance in the last raw.
 
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That's a nice stable they've got going. Shame if someone were to bury them.

Can't wait for him to pin them all after being powerbombed off the titantron.

Cena already burried them all, they are already dead. At least Del Rio had the foresight and is probably getting paid more than all of them. A true hero to the Latino market.
 

Mush

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I hope they don't fuck this stable up. It has some real potential. Anything that gets my boy Rusev gets back in the spotlight.
I don't understand why Rusev is in this at all. It would make more sense to have him replaced with Owens since he's feuding with Ambrose at the moment, and it would mean every title bar the Divas belt would be held by someone in the group, adding to their legitimacy. Plus Owens is from Canada, only adding to the heat they will get.
 
I don't understand why Rusev is in this at all. It would make more sense to have him replaced with Owens since he's feuding with Ambrose at the moment, and it would mean every title bar the Divas belt would be held by someone in the group, adding to their legitimacy. Plus Owens is from Canada, only adding to the heat they will get.

Owens was probably meant to be in there but he's out with an illness at the moment.
 

UberTag

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I don't understand why Rusev is in this at all. It would make more sense to have him replaced with Owens since he's feuding with Ambrose at the moment, and it would mean every title bar the Divas belt would be held by someone in the group, adding to their legitimacy. Plus Owens is from Canada, only adding to the heat they will get.
The reason they're excluding Owens is because Reigns is going to run the gauntlet at WrestleMania by beating all four members of the League of Nations and Triple H in the same night to become the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. Owens can't be a part of this group because he's already blocked to job to Lesnar at Mania.

This is going to be the card for WrestleMania Star...

- Pre-show: Andre the Giant Battle Royal
- Reigns vs. Barrett
- Wyatt Family vs. The New Day
- Reigns vs. Rusev
- Lesnar vs. Owens
- Reigns vs. Del Rio
- 12-Divas Tag Match (Charlotte wins by rollup; woos with her Dad for 10 minutes)
- Some Band Plays
- Hall of Fame Class of 2016 Roll Call
- Reigns vs. Triple H
- Stephanie cuts a promo for 20 minutes to kill time; Rousey collects another pay day to tease... nothing
- Cena vs. Undertaker
- Reigns vs. Sheamus for the World Heavyweight Championship

Ambrose and the Usos will be in Roman's corner for all 5 of his matches so they can celebrate his wins like the little buddies that they are.
 

Kaladin

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Stopped watching after the first hour and cancelled my network subscription. I think I need a break from this terrible product.

I've said it before, but hate canceling the Network sub is only hurting yourself. Lots of good stuff on there and I think it speaks louder if you only use the Network to watch old things and ignore the PPVs and current product than if you just cancel.
 

Owzers

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i appreciate Sheamus holding on to Roman's belt. The only thing that kept me watching Raw after that first match was how bad the Redskins/Cowboys game was and i can't decide which faction to anger in Fallout 4 yet.
 

Hasney

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I've said it before, but hate canceling the Network sub is only hurting yourself. Lots of good stuff on there and I think it speaks louder if you only use the Network to watch old things and ignore the PPVs and current product than if you just cancel.

I've somehow managed to cope without it.
 
I've said it before, but hate canceling the Network sub is only hurting yourself. Lots of good stuff on there and I think it speaks louder if you only use the Network to watch old things and ignore the PPVs and current product than if you just cancel.

I think not giving WWE your money speaks louder than giving WWE your money.
 

Kyoufu

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I've said it before, but hate canceling the Network sub is only hurting yourself. Lots of good stuff on there and I think it speaks louder if you only use the Network to watch old things and ignore the PPVs and current product than if you just cancel.

This makes no fucking sense. None.
 
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