X-Men Apocalypse |OT| Days of Past Future

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Well you can't really introduce the
Dark Phoenix
Saga when this is the first time we see Jean (again). This movie should have been
Mr Sinister
Arc which leads to the Apocalypse movie.

Sinister
Arc - Introduce Jean and Scott.
Mr Sinister
interest in Jean, kidnaps her. Rescues her, but shows signs of
Phoenix
Powers.

Dark Phoenix
Arc - Takes place in 90s, Jean
dark powers
grows, unleashes hell and dies at the end. Presumed dead, Jean appears at End of Credits.

4 Horsemen Arc - Takes place in 2000, Scott and Jean gets married. Finds out Jean is actually a clone (Madeline Pryor) made by
Mr Sinister
. X-men battles 4 horsemen which leads to....

Apocalypse - Cable appears which also ties in line with Deadpool present time.

I really liked Apocalypse...but this would have been amazing.
 
I liked this way more than I expected too. Fully expected another Last Stand from the trailers. A little bit bloated but better than the fairly weak DoFP.
 
Aren't Xavier and Magneto meant to be like 50 years old in this movie too?
Tbf, people can look very good at 50 and recently even people in their 60s can look like they're still in their 40s.
I think Magneto's actor in this move very easily pulled off the 50 yo look, especially when he had the beard.
 
Finally
so lame, you gonna kill off Apocalypse? :\ He really should have escaped in a time bubble or something. Yea its a comic movie he could come back easy but just seems like they treated him as a 'speedbump' for the baby X-Men to learn from, wtf? You don't do that with Apocalypse. >_> "Hey Jean remember back when we were 15 and we defeated Apocalypse? That was cool, oh well off to fight Toad and Sabertooth now." >_>

This timeline is different from the original trilogy timeline...those movies essentially didn't happen. In this timeline they're facing a much bigger threat much sooner, and therefore it should have a mild "Age of Apocalypse"-esque effect, in that they're training much sooner and harder than before,
hence the Danger Room sequence with the Sentinels
.
 
Well the movie felt like it was trying to do too much and ultimately didn't manage to give any one thing it cared about doing the right amount of attention.

So much of the movie was set up that it was forced to resolve way too quickly.

The new cast didn't even get much development or meaningful screen time despite the fact that jean, scott and kurt were there pretty much the whole time because the movie had to catch us up on what was going on with so many older characters.

The danger room scene was probably the best way the whole thing could have concluded, but I feel like apocalypse should have just died or been defeated sooner and it would have been nice to get more screen time with the x-men actually being trained at the school towards the end
 
Since I find most super hero films to be awful, I was prepared for the worst but I found Apocalypse to be one of the best in the genre. I'm stunned by how good it was, my eyes were glued to the screen even though I'm coming off 3 consecutive 12hr night shifts.

The ritual sequence and the attempted assassination, with the collapsing pyramid was fucking wicked. The falling stones were brutal.
The cage match was meh.
The mystique character and the lasting effect from DOFP was very well done. The summer back story was meh, Jean Grey was ok.
But Magneto, and Prof X bits were brilliant. And many other things brilliantly done too, like the nuclear disarmament, Quick Silver.
The overall story, pacing, dialogue and mood, motivations were excellent, especially considering that this is an ensemble. Loved the early 80's atmosphere too.

The final battle also was way above average, they were able to build real tension and consequence, unlike so many other Super Hero films which have zero tension whatsoever.
 
My one issue is the X-mansion
and how it blew up. A single errant blast, and boom, all those schoolkids dead. That's why you don't store a fucking ammo dump at a school. It could have just as easily been a non-mutant power related accident. It was by pure chance Quicksilver was there and even then it was a question of milliseconds.

Also destroying
Auschwitz
is a little in bad taste as it's now a monument to the horrors of fascism, not a celebration of it.

The ritual sequence and the attempted assassination, with the collapsing pyramid was fucking wicked. The falling stones were brutal.

Yeah, that could have easily dipped to Scorpion King levels but it was great.
 
I have lots of issues with the mansion
blowing up.
It happens completely by accident and it's all
Havok's
fault, and doesn't give credibility to
the villains who should be causing it.
 
Saw this today and was pretty disappointed, considering DoFP was one of the best cape flicks of the past several years.

It's ridiculous to what extent Oscar Isaac was wasted. Literally no part of this character benefit from his talents, and you can barely tell it's him anyways. Could have gotten any random mook to play this part. Furthermore, Apocalypse was by far the weakest element of the film. Very under cooked and non threatening. Total MCU tier villain unfortunately...

The bright spots were McAvoy and Fassbender, the latter in particular, his whole situation was well done, and quite affecting in the outcome of his newly found life.

The new kids I actually thought were quite ok too. Jean, Scott, Kurt, all stood their own, and Quicksilver once again stole the show.

Overall, there's some great scenes here and there, but the movie is very underwhelming in it's plotting and it's villain.

I'm down for another film with the new kids as the team, but Simon Kinberg needs to go, Mystique needs to go, and Magneto needs to be given a rest for the next outing.
 
Yeah agreed with all of that. Particularly the last paragraph.

Fassbender did great in here (as did mcavoy as usual) but they need to put Magneto on the bench for a little while. And Simon Kinberg needs to bounce asap.
 
Just got back from watching this, gotta say I enjoyed it overall. Action scenes weren't anything special (except for Quicksilvers scene) but I thought the acting was solid especially from Fass and Mac as per usual.

I felt this movie was a great homage to those of us that grew up with the Xmen cartoon show of the 90's, I mean seeing Psylocke's costume actually pulled off in a movie is amazing. If it suffered at all its from the same thing all these super hero movies suffer from and it's just having toooo many super heroes in it.

Now if only I could get me and X-Force movie of Wolverine, Deapool, Angel, and Psylocke I'd be set👌🏻
 
This movie was awful. There are things it did ok, but the things it did wrong are just too much. For the love of God, please take this franchise from Singer.
 
easily the best Xmen movie, loved it, especially compared to Civil War where no stakes were to be had, you knew everyone was going to live.

Storm was so much better than halle berry. Apocalypse was great, you really got the sense that he was the ultimate badass, that took all the xmen to defeat. The only downsides were both Jlaw and Sophie Turner are super weak actresses.

J
I felt this movie was a great homage to those of us that grew up with the Xmen cartoon show of the 90's,
yes! this is where i'm coming from too. I watched the cartoon every saturday.

Though i have to disagree on the action scenes, i thought they were pretty great. Again compared to Civil war where you went literally minutes without seeing what some characters were doing, you just forget about them, vs Apocalypse they at least showed or explained visually why certain characters were out of the action.
 
Man. Man.

I wasn't prepared for how awful this was.

I'm really struggling to think of something I enjoyed about it, but I just can't do it. I guess the Jacked Man cameo was okay?

The dialogue is almost entirely awful, nearly everyone is phoning it in, Apoc looks like shit, and there's not one memorable action sequence. They've got one of the best actors working today in Oscar Isaac, and they do NOTHING with him.

I found this to be a colossal drop in quality from its predecessor. Hell, it's an even bigger drop than The Last Stand was from X2.

What the hell happened here?
 
God DAMN quicksilver is OP.
I was worried they were going to kill him off because of the problems having him around would cause in future iterations. I mean.. the only reason he lost to Apocalypse was because he underestimated him... I mean he was SMIRKING at the guy before just wailing on him

This guy is orders of magnitude faster than an action potential... how do you even beat that?
 
Yeah.

But they're also like 80 in the comics and look the same as they did 40 years ago so whatever.

Wasn't there some kind of retcon explanation(recall hearing about it somewhere in All New, All Different Marvel's more galactic side) behind this as how time flows differently in the Marvel universe, for what we consider decades is merely a shorter span of drastically changing styles. That time kinda corrects itself to allow such things, or bullshit like that(I stopped reading these comics in the mid-90s).

That being said, you can also say in a good run, each year you get 12 comics, a lot of them featuring arcs, some self-contained, and with that on your mind, it's not like they all space the full year in real time.

And still, it feels more odd than the original X-Men movie trilogy because they spaced their movies apart soooo damn far. If I had decided to do this, I would've either set all the new trilogy after First Class(separated by a few years, like First Class is set in 63, then have a follow up in 65, and the final one in 69), or considering the ten year gap, have each of these movies feature a different cast of mutants. Keep the First Class group then, and if they appear in 1973, recast them with older actors/actresses, but focus with a new cast of mutants. Then, 1983, another new cast shake-up. A constantly evolving roster, so to speak.
 
Wasn't there some kind of retcon explanation(recall hearing about it somewhere in All New, All Different Marvel's more galactic side) behind this as how time flows differently in the Marvel universe, for what we consider decades is merely a shorter span of drastically changing styles. That time kinda corrects itself to allow such things, or bullshit like that(I stopped reading these comics in the mid-90s).

That being said, you can also say in a good run, each year you get 12 comics, a lot of them featuring arcs, some self-contained, and with that on your mind, it's not like they all space the full year in real time.

And still, it feels more odd than the original X-Men movie trilogy because they spaced their movies apart soooo damn far. If I had decided to do this, I would've either set all the new trilogy after First Class(separated by a few years, like First Class is set in 63, then have a follow up in 65, and the final one in 69), or considering the ten year gap, have each of these movies feature a different cast of mutants. Keep the First Class group then, and if they appear in 1973, recast them with older actors/actresses, but focus with a new cast of mutants. Then, 1983, another new cast shake-up. A constantly evolving roster, so to speak.

When Franklin Richards was born, marvel characters in general stopped ageing. The theory is that his reality warping powers keep everyone young.
 
I saw it tonioght. I'd say 6/10 if you like seeing the various X-Men characters. It's almost certainly the weakest in the new X-Men movie series.

There were some nice camera shots in places, but there were sloooow scenes and the movie ran super long at 2 hours 16 minutes. Prepare for people walking in slow motion.
The costumes, casting, and acting were decent...but the writing seemed pretty subpar. 3 characters were almost completely useless.

I'll post some more thoughts in the spoiler thread.
 
Just saw this tonight, this was much better than the mediocre trailer led me to believe, I'll take this over just about any MCU movie I've seen in the last 5 years, yes that would include Avengers.

The main theme of the trilogy is the conflicting worldview between Xavier and Magneto, and that ultimately is far more compelling than anything in the MCU.

I hope the X-men universe stays with Fox and not join the MCU. That will be the end of interesting XMen stories.
 
Just saw this tonight, this was much better than the mediocre trailer led me to believe, I'll take this over just about any MCU movie I've seen in the last 5 years, yes that would include Avengers.

The main theme of the trilogy is the conflicting worldview between Xavier and Magneto, and that ultimately is far more compelling than anything in the MCU.

I hope the X-men universe stays with Fox and not join the MCU. That will be the end of interesting XMen stories.

Everyone has an opinion. Apocalypse might be in the bottom 3rd of all Superhero Comic Movies.
 
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