Last gen was/is the perfect example of how strong the PlayStation brand is.
You realize that when you're arguing the brand is simply stronger, you're actually arguing the product is simply better? Disney didn't get to be Disney by being Hanna-Barbara, you know. Being called Wii didn't do much for Wii U.
Well this is what we are going off of. She was told 200M W10 active units and was given a breakdown. 180M computers, 18M XBO and 2M W10 phones have been active and used in the past 28 days. Assuming that not all XBOs have been used in the past 28 days, the number moves north.
I don't think a console that is plugged in, did a background update without being turned on and hasn't been used would be counted in this figure. This is targeting "active" consoles which is MS' big investor focus now.
lol You bet your ass it would. Regardless, I think you're putting way too much stock in to an unofficial, unverifiable estimate which includes values such as "around 180 million."
Good sales and only negative if you compare to PS4.
I actually got temp-banned from Ars for forgetting we weren't allowed to compare Kinect to any other technologies.
Now that you think about it, 18 million Xbox One devices being connected to the internet in 28 days period sounds like an insane number. That would mean Xbox has some serious active population or XBO install-base is way bigger than we thought.
pfft Nerd.
I know there's still a portion of people that don't connect their consoles online but do Xbox one games have system updates on disc or is online mandatory at this point, at least for firmware?
Last I heard, no, you had to go online.
Its weird that we equate the console being dead outside of the US/UK to selling zero consoles ltd outside of the US/UK. It's available in over 60 countries.
That's a strawman. Nobody is saying it's selling zero outside the US. People who pay attention to details are pointing out that even the UK has fallen well behind the US sales pace, and given what we know about their US sales, it's fairly safe to say their worldwide sales are less than 18M, but we'll be able to get a better idea after we get December NPD. (And 2015 updates out of not-US would be super helpful too, of course.)
So, just wondering then, what would be you guys' prediction for both sold through and shipped? And like, no ranges. A number.
Reserving this space; will update later
Seriously though, pending NPD results, I'm gonna stick with 17.5M,
give or take. Maybe give a little, if they have a strong NPD. Oh, and "way too many" in the channel, I guess. Maybe another 2M?
Possibly more? Oops, sorry.
We just need to post some low ball numbers like 15m sold through on twitter like it's real, Greenberg might get annoy enough to give us the real number.
We need to get the press in on this.
"Spencer refused to say anything beyond, '
Way more than twelve million! C'mon!!'"
So you're telling me that every console manufactured and sold in 2015 still had the same DRM-ridden OS from 2013 preinstalled? Maybe I should go and buy a new XB1 and see for myself, since that seems unbelievable.
Step 5 says, "Once you are connected to the internet, you can continue with your setup."
So 18 million at least. Prob. Above 21 million. Nice.
Yeah, even 22M seems pretty reasonable, given how we've seen sales taper off outside the US. Actually, maybe we're not doing this right
why does everyone hate statham so much?
People hate Statham? He's a bit misguided, but he seems aight. =/
