Papasmurf531
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Im just waiting for it to go on sale digitally and then I will be jumping back into that game! Of course I suck at RTS's :/
Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Thread: Everyone wants it, no one uses it
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Im just waiting for it to go on sale digitally and then I will be jumping back into that game! Of course I suck at RTS's :/
It's great. I played with my friend online matchmaking. People still play the game. I don't know how it was when it got first released for BC but it runs okay now, from what I have played.
BC is great and important for about the first 5 years after a new console launches. After that if you're not through your backlog on previous gen yet you'll never get to the current gen.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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I bet it will come for free with Halo Wars 2.
It's not really a backlog for some people though as I just like to play older games sometimes, not just ones I missed.
WanderingWind
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BC is great for people who don't equate "new" with "better." Or for fans of games, that for some reason or another (Marvel vs. Capcom) are unlikely to see a sequel, but still offer replayability. Or people who hit a rough patch and can't buy new games at a fast clip. Or hell, people who just to relive playing a game they loved in the past.
There are so many reasons why some like BC. "Clearing backlogs" is probably last on that list for a vast majority of users.
Not to mention it's also nice to play old games with new controllers, and to have the features such as record and screenshots implemented.
The full implementation of BC on X1 makes it much more than just a way to visit curiosities. It's a way to increase relevancy again, and since it works with a huge amount of games one's already paid for, it's a great way to move your library forward.
There are a lot of genre's (Like "action Puzzle" games like Magical Drop or Puzzle fighter 2) that don't have solid modern-gen equivalents. It's great that BC and it's ilk can help expand the solid titles available in such genres.
The full implementation of BC on X1 makes it much more than just a way to visit curiosities. It's a way to increase relevancy again, and since it works with a huge amount of games one's already paid for, it's a great way to move your library forward.
There are a lot of genre's (Like "action Puzzle" games like Magical Drop or Puzzle fighter 2) that don't have solid modern-gen equivalents. It's great that BC and it's ilk can help expand the solid titles available in such genres.
I have to say, marrying implementing BC with ensuring BC titles appeared on GWG, offering content that justifies BC does make it a lot more meaningfully relevant. It's a smart move. I suspect earlier consoles would have demonstrated more BC use if it actually encouraged people to try it out like that.
Yeah, I greatly prefer the newer Xbox One controller, especially the elite. The recording stuff is some great voodoo, too (who do?).
Yeah, I think that was for one of the Golden Axe standalone games (as opposed to the Golden Axe pack), but I'm pretty sure that Sega still owns the publishing rights to that and it was pulled for other reasons. Who knows what's up with Uno. I'm not in the know, but I imagine Microsoft would have to get permission from Gameloft who would have to get permission from whoever owns Uno as a... thing (trademark? copyright? I dunno). Just seems like it'd be a hassle. Golden Axe is still purchasable on XBLA, you'd just have to get it through the "pack," not by itself.
fair enough. But as the title states "everyone wants it and no one uses it"
For me, I like having it for video recording and screen shots, and only having to power on one box for everything. Still, once I complete a game 100% I'm done with it except for extreme cases. After awhile games just show their age too much - especially polygon driven games (not 2D games like classic RPGs, etc).
Without the camera? Who cares!
I played through all of 2 and around half of 3 in back-compat so far. The single-player campaigns are definitely playable and enjoyable (both in terms of holding up and in how well they run being emulated) but there is some noticeable slow-down for brief periods of time in a couple areas.
All are great games (except perhaps judgement, though its worth looking at) One and two are basically perfect (same as 360) on xbox one...3 struggles slightly but still playable...judgement is probably unplayable thought not as bad as halo reach
Ein Bear
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The Gears games have been significantly improved through various patches since launch. They might not run quite as well as on 360 if you compared the two side-by-side, but I can't tell a difference just from memory. They're very playable on the Bone.
Edit: Gears 1-3 at least. I've not tried Judgement myself.
Edit: Gears 1-3 at least. I've not tried Judgement myself.
ThirstiestGamer 2.0
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Still no Skate 3 BC despite it being mentioned back in November 2015. Could it be that they are, indeed, saving it for a Skate 4 announcement with an included copy of Skate 3? Hmm...
The Albatross
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Been playing Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (360 BC) and the game runs very well. A couple of times I've started it and it stuttered, and I had to quit out and restart the game, but that's only happened twice in about 5 hours of play and took a few seconds to remedy.
Framerate has been good.
Game is great, I never played it before despite owning it on both PSX and 360.
Framerate has been good.
Game is great, I never played it before despite owning it on both PSX and 360.
Diablohead
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I'm only half way into judgement but I felt like it played a tiny bit better then gears 3 which has huge input lag when you get into battles, gears 2 has minor frame drops but it's rather solid, gears 1 was the same but very playable.
The Albatross
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Considering nearly all console generations but the last one lasted about 5 years, I think it's saying something.
I just got mine, too. Very pleased. Makes a crappy Monday a lot better.
That's the only thing I'm holding out hope for... I of course bought Skate 3 on sale like a chump.
Ein Bear
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I feel like backwards compatibility is a much more attractive feature in a world of digital game purchases.
We might end up with an Xbox 1.5 in the recent future, or we might end up with a standard 'next generation' Xbone successor several years down the line, but regardless of how the rumours shake out the conventional wisdom is that the next machine will be built on similar, upgraded architecture as the Xbox One and will be backwards compatible. The idea that my 360 games are being essentially 'future proofed' and could well be playable a decade from now on whatever form the next Xbox takes is a really nice feeling and has lead to me buying a lot of digital 360/One games.
Not to bring up the inevitable PC comparison, but I really like the idea of building an 'Xbox Library' in the same way that you buy games on Steam - something that I'll be able to access and play for years to come.
We might end up with an Xbox 1.5 in the recent future, or we might end up with a standard 'next generation' Xbone successor several years down the line, but regardless of how the rumours shake out the conventional wisdom is that the next machine will be built on similar, upgraded architecture as the Xbox One and will be backwards compatible. The idea that my 360 games are being essentially 'future proofed' and could well be playable a decade from now on whatever form the next Xbox takes is a really nice feeling and has lead to me buying a lot of digital 360/One games.
Not to bring up the inevitable PC comparison, but I really like the idea of building an 'Xbox Library' in the same way that you buy games on Steam - something that I'll be able to access and play for years to come.
It'd be really neat if they could pull off Original Xbox titles in addition to this. Could have the entire Xbox library on one console.
Old contract roadblocks notwithstanding.
ThirstiestGamer 2.0
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me too, man, me too.
Doug Heffernan
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Somewhat related: Alan Wake QB pre-order codes are being sent out now, check your email.
There are a lot of Multi Disc games. I imagine that'll be an E3 announcement with them saying 'Get Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon..NOW'
Estocolmo
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That would be nice but is that something Microsoft wants to do when the Xbox Live servers on the original Xbox is shut down?
Didn't stop them from selling OXbox titles digitally on the 360.
The OG Xbox servers were still alive at the time when they started that initiative however. Being able to play Halo 2 online with a 360 was a reasonably big deal at the time.
I'd say they're essential, especially if you're doing co-op. I've played through 1, 2 and Judgment on One and while they all exhibit small issues compared to 360 (black crush, small sound issues, framerate drops, input lag. On the upside Vsync is forced so no tearing), they are still extremely impressive games. Judgment runs slightly worse than the others, but it's still quite playable despite a lower frame rate.
I really hope they made a deal on bc titles to be bound to windows os license-wise. That way they could easily make xbox 360 bc available on all future xbox consoles.
frontieruk
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You know the kicker is going to be when they announce all the backwards compatible games are bundled in UWPs and will work on windows 10...
One can hope right?
Halo 2 was never sold digitally, though. They intentionally held it back :/
True, I was more referring to backwards compatibility in general. Releasing the games digitally is one thing, but I don't think they would have made the effort of the emulator itself were OG Live already dead.
Captain Zyrain
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I was always a big proponent of "NEW GAMES NOT OLD GAMES!" and thinking BC was dumb.
Now I realize I was dumb. I played a TON of 360 games, but I'm finding way more games I never got around to, and with 360 BC Games with Gold.. it's given me a ton of new (to me) content.
I never played Red Dead Redemption (I know, what's wrong with me), so I am eagerly awaiting it becoming BC. Same thing with Shadow Complex (again, I'm bad), so I was happy to see it become BC and the updated version come out recently.
Bravo!
Now I realize I was dumb. I played a TON of 360 games, but I'm finding way more games I never got around to, and with 360 BC Games with Gold.. it's given me a ton of new (to me) content.
I never played Red Dead Redemption (I know, what's wrong with me), so I am eagerly awaiting it becoming BC. Same thing with Shadow Complex (again, I'm bad), so I was happy to see it become BC and the updated version come out recently.
Bravo!
JumPeRJumPzZ
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He could play it on 360
You will see if people unlock achievements on 360 on your feed too.He could be playing it on the 360.
dragonyeuw
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Instead of worrying about that, maybe just build an emulator that works within the 360 environment? I have no clue how BC works, maybe someone more knowledgeable could chime in there.
I think they had to pay Nvidia royalties on the 360 to get OG XBox emulation on the 360. That GPU wasn't well documented either and the 360 used a third partition of the hard drive to get it running, so it may be just as difficult as 360 BC is, but for less of a gain.
TangoAlphaLima
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They already did that for the 360, essentially the same way that they're doing 360 games on the XB1. One would think it's possible that the OG Xbox emulators could run in the 360 emulator on the XB1, but maybe not.
I think as a practical matter, they've got so many titles to get to just from the 360's library that the OG Xbox BC will be far, far away, if it ever comes.
A Digital Foundry article on Jet Set Radio Future, "running" through the OG Xbox BC on the 360, running through 360 BC on the XB1 would be hilarious.