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[RetroGamingUK]

All the talk about Sony woke and Sony live service is meaningless.

In reality, outside of NeoGaf, over 117 million people worldwide chose PS4 over Xbone largely to play the likes of GTA, COD, FIFA, Madden and Fortnite with their mates.

When current gen rolled around Microsoft tried everything, acquisitions, Gamepass, good hardware, but none of it mattered. People had built up huge digital libraries and friends lists on PS4 so when PS5 came out they just stitched to that without even considering an Xbox.

Phil Spencer even admitted it, they lost the worst console war to lose in history when people built their digital libraries.

Phil Spencer said they're no longer in the business of trying to "out-console Sony", within weeks the third party floodgates opened.

The home console see-saw is now well and truly tipped in PlayStation's favour and no one's going to budge it. Sony's first party is just the icing, not the cake.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

All the talk about Sony woke and Sony live service is meaningless.

In reality, outside of NeoGaf, over 117 million people worldwide chose PS4 over Xbone largely to play the likes of GTA, COD, FIFA, Madden and Fortnite with their mates.

When current gen rolled around Microsoft tried everything, acquisitions, Gamepass, good hardware, but none of it mattered. People had built up huge digital libraries and friends lists on PS4 so when PS5 came out they just stitched to that without even considering an Xbox.

Phil Spencer even admitted it, they lost the worst console war to lose in history when people built their digital libraries.

Phil Spencer said they're no longer in the business of trying to "out-console Sony", within weeks the third party floodgates opened.

The home console see-saw is now well and truly tipped in PlayStation's favour and no one's going to budge it. Sony's first party is just the icing, not the cake.

Dude, people in Asia and Europe/globally have always went with PS. The only time there was ever a "war" was in the US and Mexico, maybe in Canada and the UK too. And that was mostly in the 7th gen. 8th gen it was mainly only in the US and Mexico. Xbox has basically collapsed in all markets in the 9th gen. The console war never existed for most of the world and still doesn't. This isn't really shocking.

 

[Sooner]

Just like when Sony tried to compete with Nintendo with the PSP and PS3 vs the Wii and DS, and got curb stomped

Both of those consoles sold over 80 million units. Your Sony-hate boner is making you crazy.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Both of those consoles sold over 80 million units. Your Sony-hate boner is making you crazy.

Now compare them to the DS and Wii. The PS3 made sony sell buildings to keep afloat, and I love the PS3. It was a failure finaically.

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

 

[nial]

Now compare them to the DS and Wii. The PS3 made sony sell buildings to keep afloat, and I love the PS3. It was a failure finaically.

87M versus 101M is not exactly a MASSIVE difference and the ROI on console sales don't have much to do with the topic of market consumption at large.

 

[Sooner]

Now compare them to the DS and Wii. The PS3 made sony sell buildings to keep afloat, and I love the PS3. It was a failure finaically.

Ok, so the WORST console generation is the PS3 selling 87.4 million. Compared to:

GameCube - 21.7 million
Wii U - 13.5 million
Nintendo 64 - 33 million

You really have to move goalposts around to make PlayStation console sales look poor. The worst PS console outsold 3 Nintendo consoles combined.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

You really have to move goalposts around to make PlayStation console sales look poor. The worst PS console outsold 3 Nintendo consoles combined.

The worst selling PlayStation outsold the best selling Xbox.

PS5 will also leapfrog both by the end of this year.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Ok, so the WORST console generation is the PS3 selling 87.4 million. Compared to:

GameCube - 21.7 million
Wii U - 13.5 million
Nintendo 64 - 33 million

You really have to move goalposts around to make PlayStation console sales look poor. The worst PS console outsold 3 Nintendo consoles combined.

compare it to the PS2, sony literally had to sell buildings to keep afloat. Stop glazing sony so hard bro.

 

[Unknown?]

Now compare them to the DS and Wii. The PS3 made sony sell buildings to keep afloat, and I love the PS3. It was a failure finaically.

PS3 eventually turned a profit. 360 never did.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Glancing through the thread, for a second I thought it was PS5 that dipped 30% YoY.

Oh wait, it was Xbox. And it was a dip from a prior big dip despite making the biggest premium shooter series 'free' on GamePass.

I can't even fathom how this thread turned into the #SonyToo when PS5 rose YoY and right now the hottest topic in social networks and among a lot of normies is the PS5 exclusive by Hideo Kojima. On the other hand it's getting progresssively hard to find even recent Xbox accessories in Europe, let alone consoles.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

compare it to the PS2, sony literally had to sell buildings to keep afloat. Stop glazing sony so hard bro.

Your argument is so weak you've had to go back nearly 20 years.

Now stop derailing.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Yotei.

8 games in 2024 (including Helldivers 2 that sold 12M units in three months), and 6 games in 2025, which is basically the same as Nintendo this year.
Also, what would sales have to do with output or studio management? And you want us to believe that you're not a clown warrior.

You think yotei is going to outsell oblivion remaster, forza horizon 5, doom, indy...the list goes on and on?

Ok. I hope its successful but I dont agree on that one.

 

[Klayzer]

It's the same clowns, derailing every thread with a SonyToo fanfic.

 

[Karim]

 

[Hector Hall]

You think yotei is going to outsell oblivion remaster, forza horizon 5, doom, indy...the list goes on and on?

Ok. I hope its successful but I dont agree on that one.

Doom and Indy for sure, they have sold poorly.
Forza Horizon 5,compared to the Xbox and PC sales, sure. Now if you add the 3 million PS5 sales now, it will be more difficult.
Oblivion has sold very strong and will have lots of price promotion, so probably not.

 

[Vlodril]

You think yotei is going to outsell oblivion remaster, forza horizon 5, doom, indy...the list goes on and on?

Ok. I hope its successful but I dont agree on that one.

It probably will. None of those games did extremely well (i mean got numbers for example). So it's quite possible.

 

[nial]

You think yotei is going to outsell oblivion remaster, forza horizon 5, doom, indy...the list goes on and on?

Ok. I hope its successful but I dont agree on that one.

Read what I said again:

Sony has a game that will do better than every game published by Microsoft for the next 5 months on PlayStation combined (outside of COD, and I was not the one to make that exception in the first place).

Now, individually? Yes, it will outsell all of those on PlayStation. It's not even a question.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Sony
Always
Wins

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

You know things are bad for Xbox when the usual suspects have to pull out the #SonyToo card despite PS5 being the only console up YoY

 

[Nydius]

The PS3 made sony sell buildings to keep afloat, and I love the PS3.

sony literally had to sell buildings to keep afloat.

Do you have any other argument than "but think of Sony's real estate"? Because that one's completely failed.

 

[drganon]

You think yotei is going to outsell oblivion remaster, forza horizon 5, doom, indy...the list goes on and on?

Yes. Most people who aren't green rats such as you believe this as well.

 

[Three]

You know things are bad for Xbox when the usual suspects have to pull out the #SonyToo card despite PS5 being the only console up YoY

But they sold a building 2 decades ago bro. Weren't you looking forward to visiting that office building?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

But they sold a building 2 decades ago bro. Weren't you looking forward to visiting that office building?

Don't forget about what happened to Psygnosis 30 years ago too!

 

[demigod]

You think yotei is going to outsell oblivion remaster, forza horizon 5, doom, indy...the list goes on and on?

Ok. I hope its successful but I dont agree on that one.

 

[Syphon Filter]

woke yotei wont outsell them lol.

 

[Three]

You think yotei is going to outsell oblivion remaster, forza horizon 5, doom, indy...the list goes on and on?

Ok. I hope its successful but I dont agree on that one.

On Playstation he said. Not entirely.