Xbox Series X is $339 on BestBuy via the BestBuy app’s Drops
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Daneel Elijah
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When Nintendo slashed the price of the 3DS not long around launch, they did a ambassador program to make the previous buyers happy. This is not the same case, but it shows that sometimes there is consequences to a price cut.
DenchDeckard
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The system is 3 years old though?
I guess this deal is over and it was only live for a day?
Daneel Elijah
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It was not a critic. And yes, this is not the same circumstances .Just that sometimes being cheap has consequences. If it was a problem for Nintendo, it can happen for Xbox too. Is a Series X at 350 a good price? Of course. But this when they launched a 350 Series S not long ago raise some questions. Some people in this thread and others, said that people will wait until Xbox have those discounts before buying, some say that they are "doomed" because of it. Someone compared it to dumping or liquidation. You can dismiss all of that, I said it just for the sake of showing that there is a lot of opinions about this move from Xbox.
I think that making this deal after Black Friday will leave some people unhappy. But that it is a good deal, and that the few people that got it will be very happy with it. And we got a few others deals on Costco for the S, and Wallmart, Amazon and a few others retailers for the X. This is probably why people get more and more extreme in those thread. One deal is normal, many get suspicious.
NeverYouMind
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The video itself states that the methodology for input lag testing consoles and PC are not the same with different cables used as inputs. Beyond that it is known that higher resolutions and HDR on Series consoles introduces input lag. Even so, it is somehow a frame ahead of PS5 as of this test (probably prior to lag reduction updates) and PC version framepacing is still unbearably horrid to this day. Having played it recently I can honestly say the input lag is better than Tekken Tag 2, though not quite on the level of Tekken 6.
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demigod
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Oh man this had me thinkin. How many folks are doing returns for those $449 bundles since it's at least a hundred dollars and returns last sometime in January?
demigod
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Double down on pirating I see. If you don't own a Switch, you can't be legally playing Switch games. Let's be honest here, nobody is buying Switch games without a Switch and playing it on their PCs.
Maybe you should sell that series s and actually buy a Switch for the imaginary Switch games you have.
GeorgioCostanzaX
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It's still $350 at Walmart in store too just confirmed although I got kind of boned temporarily since I got my Series S for $250 online and they take like 2-3 weeks to refund because of their marketplace. Oh well dads got a new bluray player and won't run out of storage 
Plenty left too and like 1 PS5.
Plenty left too and like 1 PS5.
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NeverYouMind
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I would not play on that awful Switch hardware if they payed me. It has worse performance in games than the Wii.
ReBurn
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KuraiShidosha
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Master class job at calling out the double standard. Some real hypocrisy and fuckery going on in this thread.
On topic: might just have to pick one of these up for backwards compatibility. I have a 7950x3D and 4090 rig so I can play anything modern that Xbox would have but the ability to play classic game code at 4k with no emulation flaws is huge. These boxes are basically worth it just for that.
graywolf323
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I like how people are pretending this gen hasn't been different what with a worldwide pandemic and also massive inflation
Bernardougf
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With sony progressively shortening their PC launch window... I think PC is the way to go for the next gen ... I dont even think Ill get the Pro anymore. The time to say goodbye to consoles is coming fast for me.
Presumably anyone that bought a non bundle at >$350 during Black Friday week could return and rebuy at $350.
Given the recently leaked PC sales of first party releases I'm guessing they aren't going to be pushing PC sales much going forward.
demigod
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You WILL buy a Pro, for GTA 6!
DenchDeckard
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Both Sony and Microsoft have had significant sales on their hardware within the third year of the consoles lifespan. This entire year has seen the ps5 in stock, its about time we get to some good old fashioned sales going on and end users being able to buy hardware at a decent price, after we've been ripped off by scalpsrs for two years straight!
This is nothing but a good thing!
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ShadowkillXNA
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Yes, it's just a xmas sale.
Right after one of the worst November's a video game manufacturer has ever had in terms of sales.
Just like when Microsoft introduced backwards compatibility and gamepass it was because of all their love for video game fans, not because sony was stomping them into the ground and they desperately need some positive talking points for the xbox right? ? ?
demigod
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I'm still waiting on your receipts about the ps5 being $399 this year outside of black friday.
graywolf323
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I mean to be fair the original digital edition was $399 since launch, the disc edition however? I don't recall it going that low except for that incredibly brief Target deal at BF
Daneel Elijah
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If you buy a PS5 just before the PS5 Pro reveal, will you go and return it? Returns need the case to not be open I think. But it was not a blame on Xbox. Just my feeling about it. In my country selling at a loss like this in a fire sales is forbidden by law outside of 2 months each year. One in winter, one in the end of spring. So being wrong about when to buy something means being sure of not being able not find the deal again for a few months at least.
twilo99
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I can't be 100% certain, but I think that in terms of cost per frame there is nothing that comes close to the xsx at $350.
Maybe a used PC with a 2070 or maybe a 5700xt, but I dunno, that's far fetched.
It's high quality packaging too, it's not like you are getting some cheap plastic box with horrible cooling, etc.
twilo99
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I wish I had a costco near me with that deal. My local Costco still has it for reg price. I traded my series s for a ps5 slim not too long ago when gs was offering those crazy trade in values. I need another for when I go traveling its amazing how compact that machine is.
So far I'm up to 3 series x and 2 ps5 smh. Surprised the wife hasn't killed me yet.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Costco is a fucking enigma.
phant0m
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Series X for $350 for less is an insane deal. MS fucked up not announcing this for BF with big marketing and just letting retailers do these desperation deals in the wee hours of the holiday.
Got mine at Target last week, it really is a decent system now that they un-fucked the UI and the library provides by gamepass is unrivaled. I'm actually cancelling PS+ for next year and will just play multiplayer stuff on Xbox/PC.
Got mine at Target last week, it really is a decent system now that they un-fucked the UI and the library provides by gamepass is unrivaled. I'm actually cancelling PS+ for next year and will just play multiplayer stuff on Xbox/PC.
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Bernardougf
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Lets see the perfomance my friend! ... if its 30 fps .. nope
Good points. I bring up Valve/Steam because despite having the Windows Store and absorbing Battle.net, they have still been putting all of their games on there. Rough analogy - a company with money will buy a building outright if they can afford it, rather than paying rent in perpetuity. Steam is the digital equivalent of that building. You are correct to point out that Valve would need to consent to the sale to begin with. I'm not aware of any significant outside investment Valve (which is in contrast to Epic Games) so they get to make their own decisions on everything.
Another potential sticking point: would Microsoft want to buy the hardware division within Valve? MS is already well capable of building a Deck-esque device that could run Steam, and VR still doesn't seem to going mainstream.
Yup, the lack of marketing from MS on some of the more generous deals, combine with it happening one week after Black Friday gives me the impression that these were retailer initiated sales.
I would imagine plenty of people will be doing just that. Walmart and Best Buy accept returns well into January for items purchased on or after Black Friday. I once had to get Best Buy to retroactively price match their own Amazon storefront price on a Pioneer TV. Fortunately, they agreed returning the item and buying it again would be needlessly time consuming.
CrustyBritches
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Despite how people laud PC + 'Other Systems' as the superior combo, I think PC+Xbox is more useful to me for the GP Ultimate crossover usage, since I maxed my sub to 3yrs before the recent switch in conversion ratio. Series S|X is a nice, simple way to access GP for usage on the family bigscreen TV compared to having another PC hooked up. I'm letting my PS+ expire, too. I just don't use the PS5 enough with other options(PC, Deck, GP/Xbox). I'm really only hanging on to the PS5 at this point for FFXVI Rising Tide and Wolverine.
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BacklashWave534
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Microsoft is fine. Azure will keep them profitable for forseeable future. I don't know where the notion came from that you have to be number 1 to make a profit came from. Gamepass, it was introduced to get gamers use to digital only games that you will never own. As for Sony, they are quickly becoming the most anti-consumer videogame company of all-time. DRM in their DVD drives, trying to kill trade ins/resale of games, talking about making games $80-100 a piece, killing series off that don't have ridiculously high metacritic scores, and woke BS in literally every game they release.
A huge shame since they were such an amazing company under Kaz's leadership.
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FrankWza
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They are kind of known for pivoting on a whim or trying to set industry precedents. Looks like they may be trying to start a new gen early because the x was their "pro" and it wasn't enough to outperform PS5 in multiplat. They are afforded these opportunities because xbox is owned by microsoft.
Daneel Elijah
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Part of the problem with your analogy is that it leaves out a part of why Microsoft would want to buy Valve. The bad perception that the public have of their storefront, and the bad taste left by initiatives like Games for Windows live and whatever they tried to do with UWP. It only make Valve even more attractive to them, but would not change the core problem. I don't think that Valve hardware division would be a problem for Microsoft. They would look at what obligations they still have and decide to continue as planned or not. And Valve could make conditions to get it to not be stopped for a time. But it shows that the two companies have drastically different views on the market. I can't see Microsoft continue the VR push that Valve did. And Gamepass is in total contradiction with Steam business model.
Bogroll
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And ramp those settings up and choose our framerate. We already got our Xbox Series X Pro.
DenchDeckard
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So what you're saying is, competition is a good thing and allows customers to get a good deal and awesome features?
twilo99
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Ye it's quite nice..the way they have the Xbox/pc integration now is the two almost act as one system anyway. Some games are obviously much better on PC, others on the box, and some are good on both.
For example someone here mentioned vampire survivors, and man I've been missing out on that, so now I play a game here and there when I'm working on my PC and then I can do the same on the couch.. same with Forza Motorsport.
If you figure $50 for the controller and $50 for the headset its basically a series S for $50.
StereoVsn
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Thing is where do they go from $350/£350/€350? Nobody is going to go back and buy XSX for $400+ come January.
While the intention is to probably drive Q4 sales (and it is a great deal if you don't have a PC), this will essentially ensure this is going to be a mental price barrier for customers.
That said, it's not like MS can't afford the subsidies. Which is also why I think that allowing companies like MS complete vertical integration and relying on parent company cash to subsidize XBOX is a bad idea. It completely skews any sort of market forces.
StereoVsn
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This is a great deal even if you just want a decent streaming box.
Zathalus
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I do, I physically own a Switch and purchase all my Switch games. But recently I've found it far superior to emulate them on my PC and stream them to my Deck via Sunshine/Moonlight.
StereoVsn
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PS5 was around €420-430 in Europe earlier in the year for the OG disk model and that included VAT.
Not quite the same but Sony was pushing PS5 hard for a while over the summer and early fall in EU. Don't remember same deals in NA though. Think lowest "normal" price was $450 for OG Disk PS5 with Spiderman 2 for a bit.
Yeah I wish I had a costco near me offering that price.
Bogroll
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Select 6 months, then Game.co.uk I'm sure Smyths was doing it cheaper as well. Game is the biggest rip off in UK.
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OuterLimits
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Agreed. Some parents out there on a tight budget might actually be able to surprise their child with a current gen system for Christmas. What's even worse is that some of them may decide to get Game Pass and the whole family suddenly has a huge selection of games to enjoy.
Terrible situation.