Xbox Series X | S Estimated to Have Sold 37 million units
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Topher
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What is the tweet in the OP saying?
"Xbox Series X | S would have reached the figure of 37 million units sold"
Would have? What does that mean?
Welfare
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Someone asked me if XBS was at 40M yet and I said ~37M so I guess that's the tweet being referenced. "would" is weird to include but could just be a grammar thing.
Topher
Identifies as young
Thanks for the clarification
Astray
Member
Not necessarily because these are licensing deals more than anything else.
You don't need 3rd party trackers, you can use AMD's number and Sony's number to figure out Xbox sales.
Topher
Identifies as young
Are these internal numbers or publicly accessible?
PeteBull
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To me, former og xbox owner and big fan of many franchises made for or ported to xbox consoles, if its 29,9m units or close to 37m, with hardware sales going down so terribly, after not even 5 years on the market, it still screams terrible diseaster, we got those MLID leaks/speculations about next gen xbox apu but lets be real, how many units it can realistically sell, 15-20m at max? Likely not even that coz by the time ppl can buy next xbox we will have either leaks or even official presentation and specs of full fat proper ps6 
Welfare
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AMD's 100M was a milestone figure, not a direct announcement that only 100M Gen 9's were sold so far. If you wanted that figure to be right, you'd be saying XBS is only at 25M end of 2024.
Official Microsoft data had XBS at +21M early 2023.
From July 2023 to December 2024, XBS sold through 5.3M in just the US. XBS would be at, bare minimum, +26.4M without any other regions sales data for that same time frame. The 100M was, once again, just a milestone announcement.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
demigod
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AMD's 100M was a milestone figure, not a direct announcement that only 100M Gen 9's were sold so far. If you wanted that figure to be right, you'd be saying XBS is only at 25M end of 2024.
Official Microsoft data had XBS at +21M early 2023.
From July 2023 to December 2024, XBS sold through 5.3M in just the US. XBS would be at, bare minimum, +26.4M without any other regions sales data for that same time frame. The 100M was, once again, just a milestone announcement.
Your method is flawed and you got called out on it over there. You think Xbox sold 14-15+m since July 2023? Hilarious.
That's right, but we know from that announcement that the number for Q3 2024 was <100 million. Also important to note that AMD's number is higher than what Sony/Xbox would count as unit sales, since it includes chips sold but still in-flight (i.e being assembled somewhere).
So Q3 <100 million consoles units with ~66 million PS5 and ~4 million Steam Deck would put Xbox at a maximum of 29 million.
Q4 >100 million consoles units with ~75 million PS5 and ~4 million Steam Deck means Xbox sold a minimum of 21 million units.
So Xbox sales for this gen range from a minimum of 21 million + Q1/Q2 2025 unit sales to a maximum of 29 million + Q4 2024 + Q1/Q2 2025.
Welfare
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You can't disprove the 107M IDG point or the official Microsoft data + bare minimum US data that disproves XBS is only 25M so you post LOL reactions, but can speak on this.
I've already demonstrated before that the way I've been estimating Xbox shipments since 2014 got me within 1M (1%) of the XB1's ~58M LTD (from the pic I posted) and we have leaked XBS FY market share that my estimates were accurate on before the leak came out.
XBS FY21 Q1-3 was 4.6M which I estimated correctly by August 2021, and then FY22 Q1-3 was 7.8M, which I estimated 7.95M in July 2023, when the leaks came out September 2023. The leak also included an email from Phil Spencer saying the entire FY22 would be 9.6M, which I actually had spot on in July 2023.
So over a period of 7 years for XB1, a mostly completed FY and an entire FY for XBS, I was practically spot on. My method also correctly called the quarter it happened that XBS out shipped PS5 in a single quarter of 2021 as per Jim Ryan.
My "method is flawed" with aspects that didn't matter for 9 years.
Steam Deck isn't included in that milestone. It's only consoles, also it was a shipment figure for the console manufacturers.
"Overall, this console generation has been very strong, highlighted by cumulative unit shipments surpassing 100M in the 4th quarter" - Lisa Su.
Steam Deck is part of SCBU and counted as a console.
EverydayBeast
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Series X deserved better, I wonder if Microsoft will do a second tier console (series s) next gen as well, we're talking about two different powered consoles launched at once
40 million I think is good for perspective the original xbox sold 24 million, the 360 sold 80 million but we have questions about that number because of RROD and some people buying more than one console because of RROD.
40 million I think is good for perspective the original xbox sold 24 million, the 360 sold 80 million but we have questions about that number because of RROD and some people buying more than one console because of RROD.
Dr. Wilkinson
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I definitely would pick up the Series X over a PS5. In a heartbeat.
I literally made that choice November 2021 and no regrets. My favorite Xbox console by far. My beloved Series X has been very good to me.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I mean, except for yourself, vast majority of people would not pay $600 for XSX when they could get a PS5 between $450 and $500.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
leo-j
Member
So selling 2-3 million elsewhere is pushing it tbh. I say this because the US is the platforms biggest market, and it is selling next to nothing in Japan, and probably half of what it's doing in the US in European markets. That would put it under 30 million by early 2025. It should be anywhere from 29-32 million LTD, not 40.AMD's 100M was a milestone figure, not a direct announcement that only 100M Gen 9's were sold so far. If you wanted that figure to be right, you'd be saying XBS is only at 25M end of 2024.
Official Microsoft data had XBS at +21M early 2023.
From July 2023 to December 2024, XBS sold through 5.3M in just the US. XBS would be at, bare minimum, +26.4M without any other regions sales data for that same time frame. The 100M was, once again, just a milestone announcement.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
37 million my ass.
Bullshit "data" as always that is rooted in incorrect information source (the HW revenue includes SSD, controller, etc.)
So many fake data-threads are popping up nowadays (first the Forbes one, and now this), making things even tougher for mods.
Bullshit "data" as always that is rooted in incorrect information source (the HW revenue includes SSD, controller, etc.)
So many fake data-threads are popping up nowadays (first the Forbes one, and now this), making things even tougher for mods.
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Heisenberg007
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You're trying to guesstimate the data here and aren't even differentiating b/w shipments and sold through.AMD's 100M was a milestone figure, not a direct announcement that only 100M Gen 9's were sold so far. If you wanted that figure to be right, you'd be saying XBS is only at 25M end of 2024.
Official Microsoft data had XBS at +21M early 2023.
From July 2023 to December 2024, XBS sold through 5.3M in just the US. XBS would be at, bare minimum, +26.4M without any other regions sales data for that same time frame. The 100M was, once again, just a milestone announcement.
IFireflyl
Gold Member
I was just going to say that. The Xbox 360 was an awesome experience for me, and the Xbox Series X is actually a great console that had lots of promise. The problem is that Microsoft consistently made ridiculous decisions that drove people away. It's frustrating, because the Series X had everything it needed to succeed. The hardware is excellent, the features are there, and the design is pretty sick (I have the Halo Infinite edition Xbox Series X, and it is "buh-dass"). But Microsoft completely mishandled things, as they do. I wish they had done a better job with the last two console generations, but this one has been especially hard to watch.
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Matsuchezz
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Series S has been their best seller so far.what a great console.
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DenchDeckard
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40 mill once its all over.
Not horrific but also not anything to be proud of.
Edit. I've just read the thread and dont know what to believe anymore.
I've often seen welfares estimates used around the Internet but now he is jot to be trusted, when the figure is higher than people want?
I've also trusted Kepler for years on GPU stuff so. Im stumped.
Not horrific but also not anything to be proud of.
Edit. I've just read the thread and dont know what to believe anymore.
I've often seen welfares estimates used around the Internet but now he is jot to be trusted, when the figure is higher than people want?
I've also trusted Kepler for years on GPU stuff so. Im stumped.
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PropellerEar
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ftfyXbox: 24M
Xbox 360: 84M
Xbox One: 58M
Xbox Series: 29M
Duchess
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Yes, it would've been a much better idea to do an Xbox Series X digital, instead of the Series S.
But I suppose the appeal of launching a lower priced machine that could be seen as a gateway to their ecosystem and GamePass was far too tempting.
Killjoy-NL
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Buying an Xbox is dumb, regardless of price.
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Shockwave_Fox
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I'm selling my Series X so add one more to that number.....oh, wait
DeltaPolarBear
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I remember back when I swear Series S was not a thing because it was suicidal. And then Xbox proved they WERE suicidal.
And here we are with Xbox customers asking to repeat that mistake again for next gen. Or is it because they insist everything is fine until Xbox tell them to change their tune?
Kvally
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I buy both. But if I had to choose, XSX. I have over 800 games on it and I game share with my son who has an XSS at his house.
TheGodfather07
Member
Nonsense. Xbox barely sold anything in 2024 and is pretty much dead now. 37m is ridiculously inflated. Doesn't someone have the US total up to now? That would tell us how inflated that number is. Last I remember, total in US was still below 15m at the end of last year. So even 30m would be a stretch.
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TheGodfather07
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What is the US total right now? That should give us a good idea of the worldwide total. 37m seems way too high.
demigod
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At this rate, it will not hit 40m.
Mr Moose
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Because that's all they are, estimates. How can you estimate sales of a console when the hardware %/$ includes:
1, Controllers and other accessories
2, Different price ranges for the consoles
It's selling like shit in the US, easily their biggest territory.
Topher
Identifies as young
Heck, the vast majority bought PS5 over XSX even when the price was the same.
And to think Xbox places so much faith in the sales of their own Xbox handheld that they are actively not porting games to Switch 2 in the fears it will implode the sales of their coming handheld. And in the end it will still just lead to Switch 2 selling more lifetime in Japan alone than their WW lifetime Xbox series sales.
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Topher
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Microsoft shelved plans for their own handheld
Its the Xbox ROG Ally that they are doing everything to save now by not porting games to Switch 2. How big is the market for Xbox ROG Ally if you get their games on a cheaper handheld like the Switch 2?
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Mr Moose
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That's an Asus.
Topher
Identifies as young
I really don't see Microsoft shelving their third party publisher plans on a juggernaut like Switch 2 in favor of an OEM made handheld with an Xbox sticker on it. If that was their mindset then they would have never ported games to PS5.
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DenchDeckard
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Completely agree. They've cut production and priced the system as ridiculously as possible
They've thrown in the towel 100%
Horseganador
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They won't even have 30 million.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I honestly believe the next one won't reach the first Xbox numbers tbh.Xbox: 24M
Xbox 360: 84M
Xbox One: 58M
Xbox Series: 37M
Welfare
Member
The full quote
Steam Deck or any other handheld using AMD semi-custom SOCs aren't included here, everything after the revenue amount was a follow up of Microsoft and Sony's performance. Semi custom declined because of XBS and PS5 inventory, the generation has surpassed 100M, and semi custom sales will return to historical patterns because of PS5/XBS
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