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XCOM 2 (PC/Mac/Linux, Firaxis, November 2015) announced [Up: New info/screens in OP]
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Funky Papa
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What are the chances of some Gamescom news?
TC McQueen
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From what I've heard, there'll be at least one gameplay demo (that might not be the E3 demo). It's hard to say beyond that, mostly because the source for this was a German video.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
So how much longer until we get recommended specs? I got a friend who wants to build a PC specifically for this game (He's mostly a Console Gamer with the exception of the occasional session of Age of Empire II) and he wants me to find him a build/$$$ estimate for this PC but I can't do that until they release that info.
It's still using Unreal Engine 3, it's not pushing the boat out graphically, I would say a GTX 660 or equivalent with ~2GB of VRAM, 8GB of RAM and any quad core could handle this on max.
There will be info at Gamescom no doubt
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I guess I can start making a base build based on those specs for now
And I will simply make modifications to the Base Build if any information regarding this matter comes out next week.
Thank You for the information.
mr teaspoon
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So I'm a total PC noob who needs to buy a new laptop for school. I figure I may as well try to get one that will run XCOM 2. Right now I'm looking at this one.
That should be able to handle it, right? My only concern is that I've seen people complain about the 1366x768 resolution. But they're always just kind of bitching that it isn't 1080p. Will games actually be stretched and warped at that resolution, or will it just be sub 1080p?
And if it is something worth passing on a purchase over, does anyone know of a similarly priced laptop with the same specs and a higher res screen?
That should be able to handle it, right? My only concern is that I've seen people complain about the 1366x768 resolution. But they're always just kind of bitching that it isn't 1080p. Will games actually be stretched and warped at that resolution, or will it just be sub 1080p?
And if it is something worth passing on a purchase over, does anyone know of a similarly priced laptop with the same specs and a higher res screen?
Doczu
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The 940 gpu is good enough to play gamea in 1366x768, but it certainly is too weak to do 1080p justice. It could play those same games, but the framerate will take a hit.
The game won't be warped or anything, 1366x768 is true 16:9 resolution. Imo enough for a 15' display.
mr teaspoon
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So if I decided I wanted to hook my laptop up to my TV, it wouldn't be powerful enough to display it in 1080p?
Also, in your opinion, does that one seem likely to be able to run XCOM 2?
Doczu
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You'd do best by asking here: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=745783&page=100000
OP is an expert in mobile GPU's.
But from what i know it's a low-medium tier gpu, playing games in 1080p would force you to sacrifice graphics and make you deal with lower fps.
If this is the same engine as used in the 1st XCOM, then it would even run on a integrated gpu, just not with the fancy settings on.
mr teaspoon
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I will check that thread out, thanks!
The Incredible Muffin
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Knowing it will be PC exclusive, I hope they'll have controller support for I preferred that over M+K when playing EU.
The Incredible Muffin
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That's not a bad idea. This game would be more fun if I dont find out about the other baddies.
Ok going dark from now.
They've confirmed it won't have gamepad support, at least not at launch. Yeah, it's a bit disappointing.
One nice thing about it being turn-based is that framerate isn't a big deal.
XCOM EU was pretty overtly designed around a controller in mind, so it makes sense a gamepad would be more comfortable for most people. XCOM 2 being KB/M focused should hopefully be the opposite there.
Shake Appeal
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Buncha new screens of strategy layer/customization stuff:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_gc_new_xcom_2_screens-16918_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_gc_new_xcom_2_screens-16918_en.html
The weird thing is that it played like shit with a mouse
Poodlestrike
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Daaaaaaaaayum!
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Fuck yeah.
This is some badass shit.
It looks like there's going to be some actual world/base building, too.
The art direction is soooo much better.
TC McQueen
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All this stuff makes me wonder what the fuck the problem is with getting gamepad support in the game by launch. It looks like the XCOM:EU gamepad mapping would work in this game with maybe a minor tweak or two.
Vigilant Walrus
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I'm so happy that you can customize your soldiers so extensively. That was like the big thing in EU that you couldnt. All your soldiers were ugly and so you werent so emotional invested as you could have been. I'm going to make all my soldiers visual look a reflection of their names and give them unique identities. That's when you gonna start sweating risking them.
And of course, no hard restarts. Thats cheating. They die, they die. That's the X-Com way.
And of course, no hard restarts. Thats cheating. They die, they die. That's the X-Com way.
Those UI screenshots are quite disappointing. I thought the main reason to make it PC exclusive was so that they didn't have to design the game to be playable on a TV with a controller. But that UI is still very much a console UI.
LucidMomentum
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Can't wait to customize my soldiers to resemble my friends and family and keep them up to date on their performance in the field.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Vahlen is totes traitor scum.
Bitch was so eager to experiment on humans.
Bitch was so eager to experiment on humans.
I hope the council stuff is a bit better, going through campaigns, playing near perfect and still failing and losing councils really put a bug bear under me in Enemy Unknown and it became even more unforgiving with Enemy Within. Maybe that is a part of the game, being out of control for some aspects but man if it doesnt feel crappy.
Shake Appeal
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If you were playing near-perfect in vanilla EU/EW, you shouldn't be losing council members on anything but the highest difficulty setting.
Funky Papa
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Besides, Long War fixed that fuckery. Not that it was common to lose nations over Vanilla XCOM, but I know shit was infuriating when the game decided to fuck you over.
Go play Long War.
Go play Long War.
I liked Shen, he had a cool toolbelt. There's a quote from Chief Shen in those screens so XCOM's failure wasn't total.
Lol, what happened to Corsica, Sardinia and Balearic Islands?
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Annexed by German... I mean, the aliens.
Poodlestrike
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It looks like Shen's daughter is our new chief Engineer.
Vahlen was probably executed for war crimes, because that's what happens when you do what she did and and end up on the losing side.
Super curious about Intel and enemy ops.
Vahlen was probably executed for war crimes, because that's what happens when you do what she did and and end up on the losing side.
Super curious about Intel and enemy ops.
Remachinate
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XCOM 2 is scheduled for 8:45 am PST tomorrow on the IGN Gamescom stream; hopefully we'll get some proper details on the strategy layer then to give these screens some context.
TC McQueen
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XCOM2 Strategic Layer discussion from Twitch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un9YdJl5-uk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un9YdJl5-uk
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
The only details I want is for them to release the PC Spec Requirements.
Poodlestrike
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Only 7 minutes in, but I am loving EVERYTHING about this. The new staffing system is a particular standout; I hope that your scientists and engineers end up being as diverse as your squaddies, in terms of talent sets at lest.
Remachinate
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It's great that they are picking up elements from similar games; the assigned scientists/engineers has echoes of Massive Chalice, as do the unique weapons that can be passed on from fallen soldiers. Not to mention "the aliens are playing their own game" (10:37) which is blatantly pulled from Long War.
I feel like there's a lot of untapped design potential in this strategy subgenre, and I'm glad they're exploring new aspects of depth with the sequel. In particular, I like the increased emphasis on an unpredictable strategy layer that doesn't play out the same between playthroughs.
Long War is stated by devs to have had a huge impact on the design philosophy of XCOM 2, most notably why they're making the game so mod friendly.
I love what they've shown at Gamescom.
At the end of that twitch interview, it seems like Garth hesitaded on what platform the game was releasing on. I almost expected him to slip up and say ps4 lol.
To be fair, you could assign scientist and engineers to tasks, and aliens had their own thing going in UFO Defense.
At the end of that twitch interview, it seems like Garth hesitaded on what platform the game was releasing on. I almost expected him to slip up and say ps4 lol.
To be fair, you could assign scientist and engineers to tasks, and aliens had their own thing going in UFO Defense.
ProvostZak
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The mission selection mechanic (at least as far as the 'Dark Events' are concerned) sounds a lot like the way Invisible, Inc. is set up (everyone here has played that gem, right?). The missions available are semi-random and offer a variety of potential buffs to your squad, but they are mutually exclusive so you have to pick carefully. Add in the alien strategic considerations, and it sounds like there will be a ton of excruciating choices to make. Much more involved than, 'I guess I rolled a medium UFO, time to go clear it'. I love it.
Remachinate
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True, but scientists were a commodity in UFO Defense whereas it's implied that they may have their own stats in XCOM 2, and the alien scoring of UFO Defense just impacted the strategic loss condition rather than the alien tech advancement that Long War had. I'm just saying these feel closer to fresh elements than just retreading the ground of OG XCOM.
XCOM APOC
I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but I was referring to the aliens' expansion through recon/base building, which as you say affected their score if they weren't stopped.
I haven't played Long war yet, but alien tech advancement sounds juicy.
Imperfected
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I haven't played Long war yet, but alien tech advancement sounds juicy.
Don't get your hopes up too high. It's not very nuanced, and only really applies stat bonuses to the aliens at the end of the day. Hopefully XCOM2 is doing something much more robust with alien supply/tech, because Long War's version, while conceptually ambitious, may as well just automatically be applying bonuses to the aliens based on the current month of the campaign in actual implementation.
Remachinate
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It was more than just stat bonuses; aliens would get additional abilities at certain tiers of research points, such as Lightning Reflexes for Outsider leaders, which would affect the way the player had to approach them. And yes, while it was largely time-based, the player could control the rate of points earned to some extent. However, it sounds like XCOM 2 will allow more direct intervention in preventing the aliens acquiring specific tech, which is neat.
The first time you meet a Chryssalid with Lightning Reflexes: "I'll just overwatch trap them like usual! ...it has WHAT?!"
I'm liking what I'm seeing in the XCOM 2 strategy layer. I was wondering how that would work, and I am quite curious to see how being attacked by UFOs work. Sounds like we might get a reversed UFO crash mission if we do get shot down. That is you now have to defend the downed craft and the aliens are moving in to kill. That'd be fun.
Poodlestrike
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This has me super excited. Long War's advancement was cool, but not always well balanced (feels like everything they field has Opportunist by June), and sort of hands-off. It's more like a timer forcing you to keep pace in strategic development than anything else.
This... this has some very serious potential.
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