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Xenoblade Chronicles |OT| Man, what a bunch of jokers.
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iamaustrian
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Laughing Banana said:I am surprised you do not know this
Teleport to Tephra Cave, Villa Lake. It's behind a waterfall (Emergency Warehouse)
http://i.imgur.com/eFlNc.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
holy fuck, I totaly forgot about the locked door behind the waterfall.
thank you soo much. I seriously thought that I have a glitched game
Santerestil
Banned
And now people, you know why NoA it's not porting this in the puritan USA...
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, if you have purge just keep Shulk mained and auto-attack -> purge the whole time. That should deal with the spikes. Use Dunban as a tank and Sharla to heal.PigSpeakers said:
Not sure if it spikes on topple/daze, but if it doesn't you could use a team focused on toppling/dazing. You would probably want to wait a little longer and get Melia for that for her quick topple.
Topple/Daze him as much as you can, since you're early in the game it's going to be rough to do that, but it's pretty much your best bet. I'd take Dunban over Reyn if he has Steel Strike, if not use Reyn. With Shulk+Sharla+Reyn you should have a topple (wild down) plus a daze attack for each character. Dunban only has Steel Strike for topple, but he should take less damage/require less healing if he's set up right.Jintor said:
And as always gems/skills/skill links can always help.
wakajawaka
Member
The first time I heard "Let's not lose our heads, dawg!"
Cannot be unheard.
iamaustrian
Member
reyn: Did you see that, Sharla? Did you see what I did?
sharla: I... uuhmm... wasn't looking...
Riki's sidekicks do good
(late character spoiler)
Sometimes you just gotta get wild = 
sharla: I... uuhmm... wasn't looking...
Riki's sidekicks do good
(late character spoiler)
Fiora:
Android18a
Member
=0 I read that spoiler and it confirmed my suspicions. I can safely say "Yay" to that
Now I can't wait to get that far. Just wanna get out of this mountain trail, it's the toughest route so far. The enemies are tough, but it's the environment that's been killing me the most XD
Now I can't wait to get that far. Just wanna get out of this mountain trail, it's the toughest route so far. The enemies are tough, but it's the environment that's been killing me the most XD
lucablight said:
SP metre.
Autoattacks and *some* special moves (most notable Battle Soul, which converts health into talent gauge level. Ideal for emergencies!)
Note that different Monado abilities deplete it at different rates, too.
For quests they're usually detailed in the quest text in your log; also, if you don't get much help from that, talking to the quest giver again may give some more info. Building the colony isn't officially a quest, though; you generally find those out by either asking Juju for more details (it's in the 'hints' section, then pick the type of rebuilding you want) or by asking around the colony.
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
What is happening in the first half of the last page is incredible and made my night.
I love this game so much. Best RPG of the year.
(and I just beat Dark Souls!)
I love this game so much. Best RPG of the year.
(and I just beat Dark Souls!)
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
You'll love the next couple areas then. At least the environments won't be a problem! Blandness aside, at least.Android18a said:=0 I read that spoiler and it confirmed my suspicions. I can safely say "Yay" to that
Now I can't wait to get that far. Just wanna get out of this mountain trail, it's the toughest route so far. The enemies are tough, but it's the environment that's been killing me the most XD
Fidelis Hodie said:
Poor Dark Souls. That happened to be the game I started up after Xenoblade, so no matter how good it is it's going to feel like a step down. And so far it does, despite my love for Demon's Souls.
wackojackosnose
Member
Urgh, had to remove that Talent Art from my list as AI Shulk is so intent on killing himself with it. Not really the best move to use when I'm not rocking with a healer in the group.mclem said:
SecretMoblin
Member
I was actually really let down by the late(r) game environments. The first several hours of the game are packed with magnificent vistas and huge, open areas. Then around the midgamechaosblade said:
when you leave the Bionis
What's even more depressing is looking at the official art for the game:
Lv. 60+ enemy spoilers:
It looks like the 'beard' of the Mechonis consists of a bunch of hanging buildings, and it would have been so wonderful to traverse that area and get a million stunning views of the Fallen Arm and the Bionis across the ocean. Instead, we get Agniratha, which doesn't look much different from the Mechonis Field/Central Factory.
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
chaosblade said:
I love them both in different ways, Xenoblade was just such a huge surprise. Wasn't expecting such a thrill ride, it blind sided me.
Dark Souls (and Demon for that matter) makes me hate my life in the best of ways.
BlazingDarkness
Member
SecretMoblin said:I was actually really let down by the late(r) game environments. The first several hours of the game are packed with magnificent vistas and huge, open areas. Then around the midgamethe environments become much less interesting, smaller, and more linear.when you leave the Bionis
What's even more depressing is looking at the official art for the game:
Lv. 60+ enemy spoilers:It looks like the 'beard' of the Mechonis consists of a bunch of hanging buildings, and it would have been so wonderful to traverse that area and get a million stunning views of the Fallen Arm and the Bionis across the ocean. Instead, we get Agniratha, which doesn't look much different from the Mechonis Field/Central Factory.
I actually preferred that it gets more linear in the second half, the story comes into focus here, and then the game opens up again with lots more sidequests near to the end, for those who want more
As much as I love the game I'd probably get burnt out two thirds of the way through if every area was like the Bionis Leg
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
SecretMoblin said:What's even more depressing is looking at the official art for the game:
Lv. 60+ enemy spoilers:It looks like the 'beard' of the Mechonis consists of a bunch of hanging buildings, and it would have been so wonderful to traverse that area and get a million stunning views of the Fallen Arm and the Bionis across the ocean. Instead, we get Agniratha, which doesn't look much different from the Mechonis Field/Central Factory.
That is Agniratha. When the city is destroyed by Mechonis moving you fall from there. But yeah, it would have been awesome to see some views of the world from there.
UltimateIke
Member
This game has Star Fox 64 levels of quotability. It's funny to see everyone play along for so long.
Everybody do good!
Everybody do good!
UltimateIke
Member
Temrer said:
The Hermit
Member
M_Night said:
Fixed and quoted for awesome.
I fucking love the dialog in this game... I love when they call each other during a chain attack:
Riki: Go hero Dumban
iamaustrian
Member
UltimateIke said:
exactly. some quotes warm my heart
Reyn: See Sharla? Brawn over Brain!
Sharla: Oh no, I can't let that one go!
Melia: The head! Shoot him in the head!
What?!
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fixed
Anybody have any late/endgame gem suggestions?
EDIT: More importantly, are there any monsters that I should be trying to get crystal drops from? I keep hearing about gems like Back Attack VI and Heat Sink VI and a lot of other rank VI stuff, but the last Back Attack gem I've found/crafted was rank II and the best Heat Sink I've found/crafted was rank III.
EDIT: More importantly, are there any monsters that I should be trying to get crystal drops from? I keep hearing about gems like Back Attack VI and Heat Sink VI and a lot of other rank VI stuff, but the last Back Attack gem I've found/crafted was rank II and the best Heat Sink I've found/crafted was rank III.
Brigandier
Gold Member
EvilMario said:
This one makes me smile, even after hearing it a billion times.
Got to the final boss last night, but I'm going to need to level up 2-3 more levels to beat him. Will be easier to level up than to craft a bunch of gems from crystals.
Hadn't messed with the affinity coins/skill linking at all up to this point since I didn't realize that you could change those out at any time. Getting all in place those helped some but still not enough to put me over the top.
Hadn't messed with the affinity coins/skill linking at all up to this point since I didn't realize that you could change those out at any time. Getting all in place those helped some but still not enough to put me over the top.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Agility, Topple Plus, Spike Defense, Debuff Resist, Haste. Double Attack is good for 7th character, didn't bother with it on anybody else.aett said:
Heat Sink is pretty useless since only Sharla can use it as far as I know, and you generally won't be using her much in the endgame since she doesn't add much to the team most of the time. Back Attack might be okay for Riki and Shulk, probably not worth it for anybody else. I didn't bother with either.
Edit: Oh, where to get them. Agility is from the Ether Mines, but you need to finish rebuilding the Special thing to get their level up.
Debuff Resist and Double Attack (and Spike Defense?) can be gotten from the level 98 Deinos Sauros in Makna Forest. Can also get Spike Defense from the monsters on Three Sage Summit.
Haste from (near end-game spoiler)
the Telethia in Alcamoth
Don't remember where to get Topple Plus. Might have been from some of the Kromers.
All the level V gem drops are in this Google Docs document. Note that the document contains spoilers all over it. Also, I forgot to mention Night Vision, but that's probably the last one you'll get since it's only dropped by a level 105 monster.
That should make a big difference since you can link up agility boosts to everybody, among other things.thefro said:
Played for about 15 hours, so here some thoughts about the game so far
I'm not really a fan of the battle system. It's a bit too chaotic for me. Also the targetting system is a bit annoying. I keep loosing track of the targetted enemy and try to attack the closest one, which doesn't work because I'm to far away from the one that's actually targetted. Also I keep dying a lot. That's not really a bad thing, but I have yet to figure out exactly why I'm dying sometimes while it's really easy at others; it still feels a bit random at times. Still, I've heard a lot of people compare it to FF12 and I think it's a lot better than that at least.
The story feels a bit standard JRPG so far. It's intresting enough; not too annoyingly clichéd, but not increadibly engrossing either; though unfoutunatly I don't think I'm very easily engrossed in a games story anymore.
I have to say I'm really impressed with the graphics. The game is pretty ugly at times but the environments are HUGE!! Don't know if the levels are streaming or not. If it is, it's the best implementation I've ever seen on a console; I've never encountered any real popup and you can skip instantly to a different location within the same area; and if it isn't then it's really impressive that they manged to squeeze those environments into the Wiis RAM.
The music is pretty fantastic, but I already knew that as it's frequently pointed out in various threads and a lot of youtube links are posted. I actually rather like the english dub, but I just can't stand the battle dialogs unless I change it to japanese. Somehow all of that nonsense shouting is a lot more tolerable when I don't understand what they say.
Also; am I the only one who hears Dancing Queen by ABBA at 0:17 here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xweRl4LZlmo&t=17s? those few notes ruin the entire song for me...
I'm not really a fan of the battle system. It's a bit too chaotic for me. Also the targetting system is a bit annoying. I keep loosing track of the targetted enemy and try to attack the closest one, which doesn't work because I'm to far away from the one that's actually targetted. Also I keep dying a lot. That's not really a bad thing, but I have yet to figure out exactly why I'm dying sometimes while it's really easy at others; it still feels a bit random at times. Still, I've heard a lot of people compare it to FF12 and I think it's a lot better than that at least.
The story feels a bit standard JRPG so far. It's intresting enough; not too annoyingly clichéd, but not increadibly engrossing either; though unfoutunatly I don't think I'm very easily engrossed in a games story anymore.
I have to say I'm really impressed with the graphics. The game is pretty ugly at times but the environments are HUGE!! Don't know if the levels are streaming or not. If it is, it's the best implementation I've ever seen on a console; I've never encountered any real popup and you can skip instantly to a different location within the same area; and if it isn't then it's really impressive that they manged to squeeze those environments into the Wiis RAM.
The music is pretty fantastic, but I already knew that as it's frequently pointed out in various threads and a lot of youtube links are posted. I actually rather like the english dub, but I just can't stand the battle dialogs unless I change it to japanese. Somehow all of that nonsense shouting is a lot more tolerable when I don't understand what they say.
Also; am I the only one who hears Dancing Queen by ABBA at 0:17 here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xweRl4LZlmo&t=17s? those few notes ruin the entire song for me...
The game does load in the background, you can see this when you load a save file or skip to a new area. However, the game is very clever in the order it loads. It loads the environment, then the controller character, then the game fades in and lets you control, then it loads the menus and interface, then the rest of the party and finally the monsters.
What I like is the draw distance and especially if you can keep a far object in your view and then go to it. An awesome example is jumping from that cliff where you go on the early story quest in the cave. When you jump from there, keep Colony 9 in view, and keep it there until you run through the front gate. There is no pop-in, no visible level of detail swap, you just see something far away and run to it. The only other game I can remember doing it this well, is the Wind Waker, but I think Xenoblade has Zelda beat just by a hair here, due to the detail of the environment.
Also, the story will blindside you, trust me on this. It will lull you into a false sense of "I know where this is going!" and then hit you across the face with a giant "NOPE!"
What I like is the draw distance and especially if you can keep a far object in your view and then go to it. An awesome example is jumping from that cliff where you go on the early story quest in the cave. When you jump from there, keep Colony 9 in view, and keep it there until you run through the front gate. There is no pop-in, no visible level of detail swap, you just see something far away and run to it. The only other game I can remember doing it this well, is the Wind Waker, but I think Xenoblade has Zelda beat just by a hair here, due to the detail of the environment.
Also, the story will blindside you, trust me on this. It will lull you into a false sense of "I know where this is going!" and then hit you across the face with a giant "NOPE!"
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Ok I've finally finished after around 68 hours of play. It is officially tied as my No1 traditional (serious) RPG of all time alongside Chrono Trigger
It is more or less perfect, the only thing that holds it back is that the pacing does let up for a little bit at around the 45-55 hour mark where the story slows down a fair bit and not enough new game mechanics are introduced but other than that, it really is more or less perfect.
The pacing (other than that one part) is perfect, the battle system is incredibly inventive and unique with plenty of new mechanics and clever twists in boss battles (some that spring to mind are
that feel like the best of FF4 and CT, and the story (while first appearing somewhat cliched) goes on to blindside you and ends up with the kind of depth that you rarely see in games at all! (And that ending, what an ending! Such a fantastic last 5 hours!) Character development, astounding. Any game that features an animal sidekick style playable character and manages to make him not only not suck but instead be absolutely FUCK AWESOME, is doing something VERY right! And the
is handled tastefully and subtly, with you indeed feeling sorry for
The graphics are fantastic (and not just for Wii!) despite it having seemless environments (with a small amount of pop in that is very forgiveable considering that we're talking about GTA style seamless areas here!) and the soundtrack is simply sublime. The best RPG OST in a long, long time!
But the best thing of all is the environments, the exploration and the sense of discovery. I've played to 68 hours and feel that I haven't even seen half of the game world on offer! And the environments aren't you're typical RPG backdrops or your typical dead pointless sandbox worlds, they're lovingly crafted - hiding secrets and history around every corner, much like Zelda's worlds (though of course not as detailed)
Special shoutout to the amazing English localisation and voice acting that never skips a beat and has already become the stuff of legends around here so I need not say anything more.
Who knows, maybe my opinion between the two might change. Honestly, Xenoblade and Chrono Trigger are so close, despite being so different from one another.
You Yanks are missing out on the best RPG of the last 16 years!
Ha Ha! Glad to know that I wasn't the only person who got stuck on that fight. I spent the better part of a late night trying desperately to beat it and I just couldn't do it, died at least 20 times. Tried it again the next day, did it first time. Thanks
It is more or less perfect, the only thing that holds it back is that the pacing does let up for a little bit at around the 45-55 hour mark where the story slows down a fair bit and not enough new game mechanics are introduced but other than that, it really is more or less perfect.
The pacing (other than that one part) is perfect, the battle system is incredibly inventive and unique with plenty of new mechanics and clever twists in boss battles (some that spring to mind are
the Mumkhar fight that took advantage of the limited targeting range and the Disciple Lorothia fight
love triangle between Shulk, Melia and Fiora
Melia
The graphics are fantastic (and not just for Wii!) despite it having seemless environments (with a small amount of pop in that is very forgiveable considering that we're talking about GTA style seamless areas here!) and the soundtrack is simply sublime. The best RPG OST in a long, long time!
But the best thing of all is the environments, the exploration and the sense of discovery. I've played to 68 hours and feel that I haven't even seen half of the game world on offer! And the environments aren't you're typical RPG backdrops or your typical dead pointless sandbox worlds, they're lovingly crafted - hiding secrets and history around every corner, much like Zelda's worlds (though of course not as detailed)
Special shoutout to the amazing English localisation and voice acting that never skips a beat and has already become the stuff of legends around here so I need not say anything more.
Who knows, maybe my opinion between the two might change. Honestly, Xenoblade and Chrono Trigger are so close, despite being so different from one another.
You Yanks are missing out on the best RPG of the last 16 years!
Ha Ha! Glad to know that I wasn't the only person who got stuck on that fight. I spent the better part of a late night trying desperately to beat it and I just couldn't do it, died at least 20 times. Tried it again the next day, did it first time. Thanks
Melia (when I'm the one controlling you! AI can't fight for shit there!), Riki (and your busted Ether attacks + healing) and obligatory Sharla (AKA Best Playable Character In Game!)
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Temrer said:
I got the feeling that mastering the Monado is going to be easier.
*Giggle* *Giggle*
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
God damn we need a voice sound board for Xenoblade's Character banter like we have for SF64 (http://starfox64.baldninja.com/sf64snds.htm). The stuff in this game is gold!
Also, just as an aside. LOL @ anyone who uses the CC/CCPro for this game. Wiimote & Nunchuck all the way (being able to move, while moving the camera AND while accessing the fight menu FTW! Couldn't imagine doing back attacks with a CC, good luck trying to move around and fiddle through the menu at the same time!)
Also, just as an aside. LOL @ anyone who uses the CC/CCPro for this game. Wiimote & Nunchuck all the way (being able to move, while moving the camera AND while accessing the fight menu FTW! Couldn't imagine doing back attacks with a CC, good luck trying to move around and fiddle through the menu at the same time!)
I hear it as well, but it doesn't ruin it for me, I dont really even notice.beril said:
As for the story, you're 15 hours in, it gets better.
Also I'm not sure how you have an issue with targeting and losing track of your target when....it looks like this:
Also a lot of that battle shouting is NOT nonsense, they're giving you contextual information (though I agree it should be toned down just a bit)
Well, two weeks later than I hoped, but it's finally defeated!
Ended at level 81, about 85 hours in. I was hunting a lot of Unique monsters around the world before entering the final showdown(s), and being level 80 heading into it.. ended up being pretty easy. Final team was Riki (controlled), Dunban, and Sharla. Max agility on all, and lots of defense on Riki.
The ending was okay. I definitely enjoyed the mid-story arc more than it, but everything in the game is so well done I can't complain. It's a damn shame the game will never have a release in North America.
I'm looking forward to heading back to the game next year when I'm feeling like it and playing the + file. I can't wait to run around the world having everyone wear their sexy Swimming Oil.
Ended at level 81, about 85 hours in. I was hunting a lot of Unique monsters around the world before entering the final showdown(s), and being level 80 heading into it.. ended up being pretty easy. Final team was Riki (controlled), Dunban, and Sharla. Max agility on all, and lots of defense on Riki.
The ending was okay. I definitely enjoyed the mid-story arc more than it, but everything in the game is so well done I can't complain. It's a damn shame the game will never have a release in North America.
I'm looking forward to heading back to the game next year when I'm feeling like it and playing the + file. I can't wait to run around the world having everyone wear their sexy Swimming Oil.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I can never use a character like Riki during "important" battles like the Final Boss or anything. In my opinion it reduces the 'seriousness' of the situation and making the overall battle feels less epic.
The Hermit
Member
EvilMario said:
Oh so that's what he says... Lol!
UltimateIke
Member
Reyn shut big fat Hom Hom hole! Riki fight better than anyone, RIKI SNEAKY! Riki get lonely without you, but Riki can win by himself!Laughing Banana said:
BlazingDarkness
Member
Boothisman.gifBento said:Reading this thread makes me so happy I played this with the Japanese voices
The battle banter in english is awesome
Enjoy your crappy sounding Dunban
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