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[BlazingDarkness]

GUYS, GUYS

I have a dilemna. I have a copy of Xenoblade Chronicles put by for me at my work (£29.99). I can either wait until I get paid on wednesday, as I am broke right now, or I can trade in Ocarina of Time 3DS and Prison Break Season 3 Blu Ray to get it today.

What would you guys do?

Trade.

 

[Spruchy]

Why would you even need to bring that up anyway? "Hey guys just got done torrenting the game and ill be playing the shit out of it until my own copy arrives!" Seems like a pointless question, but yes it is still pirating.

 

[donkey show]

Mods,

Is it considered piracy to download the game if you have already paid for it and are just awaiting shipment?

 

[Speevy]

Mods,

Is it considered piracy to download the game if you have already paid for it and are just awaiting shipment?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but proponents of backups usually say "It's my game. I can do with it what I like."

Well in this case the copy isn't yours, you don't have a copy since it hasn't arrived yet, and you're supporting the actions of someone who is most likely distributing copies to a bunch of other people who probably don't own the game.

 

[Phenomic]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but proponents of backups usually say "It's my game. I can do with it what I like."

Well in this case the copy isn't yours, you don't have a copy since it hasn't arrived yet, and you're supporting the actions of someone who is most likely distributing copies to a bunch of other people who probably don't own the game.

I can't say I agree with that statement, they've charged his credit card by the time they've shipped it costs him 57 dollars before he gets the item. At that point he's legally entitled for them to give me the product or some form of compensation if something happens with the product.

Now I'm not saying I agree with him downloading it at all because I wouldn't do the same, but they owe him something for charging his account. Just because he doesn't physically have it in his hands I still declare him an "owner" of a copy of Xenoblade.

Now that being said if it gets lost and they refund him obviously he is no longer an owner.

 

[Alexios]

They owe him something? Who owes him what? The store is sending the game, what else do they owe him, if the shipment goes well? And when are you ever entitled to some form of compensation other than the shipped goods and until said goods arrive? What if you order something without a digital alternative, what are you owed and can acquire in any way you see fit until it actually arrives at your door? I'm just trying to see the logic there... It's one thing to say "he gets the green light to piracy as far as I'm concerned since he's bought the game and I don't care about semantics like whose rip it is, they're identical anyway" and another to start talking about what he's owed by someone...

Edit: changed the pizza to something else because you tend to pay for those after they arrive, not before, lol.

 

[warpaint]

Got my copy in the mail today and its still here not played damn busy day , I hope to have a go tonight

 

[SecretMoblin]

This thread is quickly unraveling.

So... uh... Question!

I'm not sure how the skill linking thing works; if a character links skills with another, do they get that skill all the time, or are there conditions (like during a chain attack) when those skills are unlocked?

 

[BocoDragon]

Why would you even need to bring that up anyway? "Hey guys just got done torrenting the game and ill be playing the shit out of it until my own copy arrives!" Seems like a pointless question, but yes it is still pirating.

If this were actually tolorated here, all of a sudden it would be acceptable to spread instructions on how to pirate the game, and all you've got to say is "don't worry, my copy's on the way"?

It's pretty obviously got to be zero tolorance on that type of discussion.

 

[Zafir]

Back on the real topic at hand...

I'm getting sick of ! marks appearing on the map, but no matter what the time of day is, there's no quest giver there... There's one in the Refugee Camp, and it says there's a questgiver, slightly in the water. Yet no matter what time it is, there isn't anyone.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Question about quests. Does it have a tracker? Like to easily find where the quest is or where to begin it?

 

[Phenomic]

They owe him something? Who owes him what? The store is sending the game, what else do they owe him, if the shipment goes well? And when are you ever entitled to some form of compensation other than the shipped goods and until said goods arrive? What if you order a pizza, what are you owed and can acquire in any way you see fit until the pizza actually arrives at your door? I'm just trying to see the logic there... It's one thing to say "he gets the green light to piracy as far as I'm concerned since he's bought the game and I don't care about semantics like whose rip it is, they're identical anyway" and another to start talking about what he's owed by someone or whatever...

I'm not saying he's allowed to pirate anything, I don't agree with that logic. My only point was he paid 57 bucks for this game or whatever, so if the game doesn't show up he's allowed to take action and get reimbursed for it.

They don't owe him anything else other than that. Just the product he ordered or some form of refund or something. They just can't keep his 57 bucks and give him nothing though...

 

[CruxisMana]

Back on the real topic at hand...

I'm getting sick of ! marks appearing on the map, but no matter what the time of day is, there's no quest giver there... There's one in the Refugee Camp, and it says there's a questgiver, slightly in the water. Yet no matter what time it is, there isn't anyone.

I thought the same thing, but I think it's just the monument symbol.

I'm not sure how the skill linking thing works; if a character links skills with another, do they get that skill all the time, or are there conditions (like during a chain attack) when those skills are unlocked?

I think it depends on what the text says. Like if you link to the ability to wear Medium armour, then that's going to be active all the time, but some state that they'll boost stats during a chain attack or at the start of a battle and so are only active at that point.

Question about quests. Does it have a tracker? Like to easily find where the quest is or where to begin it?

Yes. The Quest Menu tells you all of that stuff.

 

[foobarry81]

Mods,

Is it considered piracy to download the game if you have already paid for it and are just awaiting shipment?

edit: I am not doing this or suggesting anything, just asking a question about what is acceptable here and what isn't.

There are shops that charge you before they ship?

 

[SecretMoblin]

Back on the real topic at hand...

I'm getting sick of ! marks appearing on the map, but no matter what the time of day is, there's no quest giver there... There's one in the Refugee Camp, and it says there's a questgiver, slightly in the water. Yet no matter what time it is, there isn't anyone.

I noticed that the "landmark" icon looks a lot like the "questgiver" icon... they're both white and look like exclamation points, at least. My eyes are shot, so I'm not really sure.

Edit: CruxisMana's explanation makes sense.

 

[snesfreak]

I paid $90, and the wait for it to get here is killing me.

 

[Zafir]

I noticed that the "landmark" icon looks a lot like the "questgiver" icon... they're both white and look like exclamation points, at least. My eyes are shot, so I'm not really sure.

Edit: CruxisMana's explanation makes sense.

It may be that, true. I'm sat so far away from the screen, they do look ridiculously similar. xD

 

[RPGCrazied]

I paid $90, and the wait for it to get here is killing me.

Join the bus. Not that I spent $90 on it, only $48, but I know how it feels on the wait. Day 6 here.

We should make a thread for people waiting to get their copy.

 

[TheExodu5]

Mods,

Is it considered piracy to download the game if you have already paid for it and are just awaiting shipment?

edit: I am not doing this or suggesting anything, just asking a question about what is acceptable here and what isn't.

Promoting it on this site is a bad idea, because GAF does not want to attract that kind of attention to the site, so I'd keep that kind of thing to yourself if you do it. In my mind, however, it's a grey area. One negative aspect is that you're promoting/supporting piracy by either sharing peer-to-peer bandwidth, or giving ad revenue to the given site by browsing it. It's also a bit of a slippery slope, since you might consider just 'trying out' games in the future before buying them, which might lead to not buying said games if you were not satisfied.

Technically, you need to rip it yourself to be considered legal. It's against Nintendo's ToS regardless of whether or not you rip it yourself, but ripping it yourself is still considered Fair Use under law.

 

[Diffense]

Join the bus. Not that I spent $90 on it, only $48, but I know how it feels on the wait. Day 6 here.

We should make a thread for people waiting to get their copy.

I think my mail came already.
Not getting it this weekend unfortunately.

 

[Zwei]

Zavvi. The same place I bought it from. Zewi I think his name is, is from Texas, same as me. eLzhi, or something like that, don't recall their exact names and I don't know his location.

Yeah, I bought Tactics Ogre from Zavvi months ago. It took seven business days (I don't count weekends for whatever reason) to arrive in Texas. I was surprised it got here that fast, tbh.
Everyone in the US will most likely start seeing their packages coming in sometime next week. It's okay, relax.

 

[Sadist]

Story spoiler plus help needed:

Spoiler

I can't beat Xord. I'm trying to fill up the chain meter but no dice. Plus his three little helpers don't make things easier :/ Really hard.

 

[Apenheul]

Story spoiler plus help needed:

Spoiler

I can't beat Xord. I'm trying to fill up the chain meter but no dice. Plus his three little helpers don't make things easier :/ Really hard.

I just beat him 10 minutes ago with the help of two gaffers, he's actually pretty doable.

Spoiler

Focus on the little ones to build up the party gauge, once it's full do a chain-art attack with a break, then a topple and maybe a heal action (I upped Sharla's healing skills right before the battle). I think it's easier if you use the Monado-skill that allows normal weapons to damage the robotic enemies too.

Oh and one last hint:

Spoiler

You don't have to remove all of Xord's HP..

 

[bubnbob]

Riki is so kawaii

 

[Dwight Schrute]

God, some scenes in this game.... just Wow.

And the scale...

 

[CoolS]

12 hours in, went back to Colony 9 today because I had sme quests left unfinished. Suddenly it's two hours later, I have a dozen knew quests and realize I hadn't even explored everything.

 

[Varion]

Story spoiler plus help needed:

Spoiler

I can't beat Xord. I'm trying to fill up the chain meter but no dice. Plus his three little helpers don't make things easier :/ Really hard.

Spoiler

His little helpers pretty much only exist so that you can fill the meter up. Don't focus so much on trying to kill them as quickly as possible, because you can raise the party gauge by using Shulk's arts on them properly (Back Slash from behind, etc). You get more from doing those timed B button presses when they come up though, they give a little less than a third of the meter. As Apenheul said you don't have to knock off all his HP. Just use the enemies to increase it, healing wherever possible, then when you get the chance to use the party attack go for it. If you've got Monado ready to use a Monado Buster after that then all the better, as it'll do a fair amount of damage. I was fortunate enough to get an extra attack in the party attack so included it in that after knocking him down.

 

[bubnbob]

I thnk I gained a whole level just exploring Frontier Village. LOL

 

[Sadist]

Ah thanks @ Apenheul and everybody else.

Finally took fugly down

 

[BlazingDarkness]

My Shulk <- he finally looks decent! Linking for those spoiler conscious

Also, dat view

 

[Apenheul]

Also, dat view

Dat view indeed!!

 

[MechaX]

Also, dat view

I am pretty confused on how the actual geography of the Bionis actually works. Or even its sense of scale for that matter.

 

[CruxisMana]

My Shulk still looks like shit.

:lol.

I am pretty confused on how the actual geography of the Bionis actually works. Or even its sense of scale for that matter.

Yeah... Probably best not to dwell on it to long.

 

[wsippel]

Riki is so kawaii

Riki is boss. Awesome little dude. Love the "WTF!?" cutscene once you get back from his story quest.

 

[PumpkinPie]

LOL play time 5:29 and still in the first area doing sidequests.

 

[Zafir]

My Shulk <- he finally looks decent! Linking for those spoiler conscious

Also, dat view

Hehe, that's the armour I'm currently using as well.

I FINALLY finished all the side quests in the Bionis' Leg. Took forever!

 

[Aeana]

At least your Reyn will look totally hot once you get the cool oil armor. Match it with the cool trunks and we're in business.

 

[kiryogi]

At least your Reyn will look totally hot once you get the cool oil armor. Match it with the cool trunks and we're in business.

I have to really wonder, how far did you get Aeana? I was under the impression you dropped it pretty early. But from the sounds of it, you made some decent progress.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Small request. You guys posting screenshots of your game, can you use direct links? Some people like to discover and see what the costumes look like first hand, and many of us don't have the game yet. Small quibble, but whatever!

 

[wsippel]

My Shulk <- he finally looks decent! Linking for those spoiler conscious

Also, dat view

I don't recognize that environment. Ether Mine drainage?

 

[slaughterking]

Eeww, apparently one single big White Spider is not enough anymore :I

 

[wsippel]

Eeww, apparently one single big White Spider is not enough anymore :I

Three times the spiders, three times the fun, right?

 

[slaughterking]

Three times the spiders, three times the fun, right?

They pushed me down the cliff despite my best intentions to kick their ass -- so I can't really say for sure. lol

 

[2San]

I have to really wonder, how far did you get Aeana? I was under the impression you dropped it pretty early. But from the sounds of it, you made some decent progress.

Aeana dropped Xenoblade? What? why? If the resident JRPG lawd didn't finish it, what hope do we have?

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I don't recognize that environment. Ether Mine drainage?

Just outside there, yeah

 

[Aeana]

I have to really wonder, how far did you get Aeana? I was under the impression you dropped it pretty early. But from the sounds of it, you made some decent progress.

Spoiler

I got to the floating capital in the sea area, I believe.

Aeana dropped Xenoblade? What? why? If the resident JRPG lawd didn't finish it, what hope do we have?

Because someone offered to pay me nearly what I paid for it and I was too busy to play it at the time anyway. I didn't drop it because I didn't like it or anything like that. Either way, we'll have that remedied when I get the European version soon.

 

[Brannon]

This OT is skirting the Bionis balls of spoilery danger. Should there be a spoiler thread?

There should be a spoiler thread.

I'll make the spoiler thread.

And I'll not be able to read it since I don't have the game until the middle of next week, so, uh... yeah.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Long as people use spoiler tags and people have, then its fine.

 

[2San]

Because someone offered to pay me nearly what I paid for it and I was too busy to play it at the time anyway. I didn't drop it because I didn't like it or anything like that. Either way, we'll have that remedied when I get the European version soon.

Oh ok, that makes perfect sense. Was getting scared there for a minute.

 

[wsippel]

Spoiler

I got to the floating capital in the sea area, I believe.

Started it or finished it? The end of that section is really fucking cool.